MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 It does matter...because the rams have a HORRIBLE SOS. While what you say is true, the rams are still well below .500 SOS. If they win today they have 6 wins and will fall below buffalo. One week does not a season make. Re-read post #14 where I explain why the outcome of the Rams game doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Here's where we stand right now: After the early games on Sunday Buffalo has the #10 pick in the Draft. I am going to pencil Tennessee in as a loser until that score changes significantly. If San Francisco and Dallas win the Bills move into a tie with Arizona for the #9 spot. If San Francisco and St. Louis win, the Bills move up to #8. Again, assuming a Tennessee loss, we can narrow our draft position to #8 - #10. JDG - Crunching the SOS numbers as we go...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Oh and it looks like the Titans want the 7th pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Taking a look at that link WRT SOS, ALL of the 5-11 teams played (or will play in STL case) better teams than the Bills today, so all improved in SOS except for the Bills, who sunk below even the Rams. So whether the Rams win or lose doesn't matter, and there is no coin flip with ARZ because they have a much higher SOS after facing Indy. Again the Bills are at worst 8th, and could be 7th depending on whether the Titans win. 547220[/snapback] Depends on how you calculate it. Going into this weekend, for instance, you could have calculated the Bills SOS with or without the Jets then 3-12 record. In other words, factoring in records of opponents yet to be played. If that's the case, there will be very little variation in the SOS for the 5 win teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Here's where we stand right now: After the early games on Sunday Buffalo has the #10 pick in the Draft. I am going to pencil Tennessee in as a loser until that score changes significantly. If San Francisco and Dallas win the Bills move into a tie with Arizona for the #9 spot. If San Francisco and St. Louis win, the Bills move up to #8. Again, assuming a Tennessee loss, we can narrow our draft position to #8 - #10. JDG - Crunching the SOS numbers as we go...... What does SF have to do with anything? Did you mean STL? And again, the early games give the Bills the 8th pick. Redo the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Re-read post #14 where I explain why the outcome of the Rams game doesn't matter. 547240[/snapback] This is incorrect. You neglected to account for all the other wins and losses this weekend - which have substantially altered the SOS standings. The Rams have currently clinched a weaker SOS than the Bills, thus the Bills can only catch them if the Rams win. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Eh? The link above has the Bills as the 2nd-easiest SOS of the 5-11 teams. And after today, it's the worst (.500 for week 16=120-120 opponents record, added to the 4-12 Jets' record, gives you 124-132 = .484). The Rams play the Cowboys which raises their SOS (.488=117-123 plus 10-6 [if the Cowboys win]=127-129=.496), so the outcome of that game doesn't matter. So the Bills have at worst the 8th pick in the draft, unless Tenn beats the Jags, and then it's the 7th. So go Titans!! 547194[/snapback] Does that mean back-to-back picks near the top of the 3rd round, no matter what the Titans do today? Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Re-read post #14 where I explain why the outcome of the Rams game doesn't matter. Your whole basis is completly flawed... As of right now, our SOS is around .500 and stl is around .480. Those are the numbers. The STL game MATTERS. (assuming one believes gaining an extra draft spot matters...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 What does SF have to do with anything? Did you mean STL? And again, the early games give the Bills the 8th pick. Redo the numbers. 547259[/snapback] A San Francisco win substantially increases Arizona's strength of schedule, because Arizona has played San Francisco *twice*. JDG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Thanks JDG, at least someone else here has actually run the numbers...and came to the same conclusions as me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 That may be the official way its calculated, but when taking the SOS off of fan or media websites, its something to take into consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Okay, forget what I said. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 You guys are making me dizzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 You guys are making me dizzy. wacko.gif Thats why I said..all you need to know... TEN over JAX SF over HOU STL over DAL Thats all you need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Re-read post #14 where I explain why the outcome of the Rams game doesn't matter. 547240[/snapback] The problem is that method doesn't factor in how all the opponents of the Bills and Rams did in week 17. Not only do the Bills and Rams get the week 17 opponents record tacked on (Jets 3-13, Dallas either 9-7 or 10-6), but every other team they faced this season can either win or lose this week also. So our SOS is still being influenced by HOU, while the rest of the 5-11 teams SOS is still being influenced if team's on their schedule have yet to play week 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadBuffaloDisease Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 The problem is that method doesn't factor in how all the opponents of the Bills and Rams did in week 17. Not only do the Bills and Rams get the week 17 opponents record tacked on (Jets 3-13, Dallas either 9-7 or 10-6), but every other team they faced this season can either win or lose this week also. So our SOS is still being influenced by HOU, while the rest of the 5-11 teams SOS is still being influenced if team's on their schedule have yet to play week 17. I know. I already admitted I blew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 Thats why I said..all you need to know... TEN over JAX SF over HOU STL over DAL Thats all you need to know. 547289[/snapback] OK. Houston and Jacksonville are kicking butt. Now what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I know. I already admitted I blew it. 547303[/snapback] Loser, who can't figure out SOS in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDG Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 I've crunched a few more numbers, and narrowed our possibilities. Here's where we stand right now: After the early games on Sunday Buffalo is currently tied with Arizona for the #9 pick in the draft. I am going to pencil Tennessee in as a loser until that score changes significantly. If Houston and Dallas win, the Bills stay tied with Arizona for #9. If San Francisco and Dallas win the Bills claim the #9 spot outright. If St. Louis wins, the Bills move up to #8. Again, assuming a Tennessee loss, we can narrow our draft position to #8 - #10, #10 occurring if we tie Arizona and lose the coin-flip. JDG - Who really aught to have better things to do on a Sunday..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted January 1, 2006 Share Posted January 1, 2006 OK. Houston and Jacksonville are kicking butt. Now what? Assuming both win, this puts us in a 3 way tie with ARZ and DET for the 8/9/10 slot if st louis wins, and 10th if Dallas wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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