IBTG81 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I was a TD supporter, until I read this... Kyle Shrader (Orlando, FL): When can we admit, as an organization, that both lines have been insufficiently addressed in regard to personnel, and that the personnel we do have does not fit with our "schemes?" Tom Donahoe: As a personnel staff, we do not feel that our lines have been insufficiently addressed. We have addressed the offensive and defensive lines both in free agency and the draft. Our biggest concern with the play of our lines has been inconsistency. At times this year, the line play has been very good and at other times it has been lacking. We have to continue to find a way to play more consistently on both sides of the ball. This is total BS. If he honestly believes this, TD needs to get the boot, and get the boot quickly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmoses44 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I agree. Time to go Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
respk Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 You expect him to say that not enough was done and that the buffoons they have on the OL and DL couldn't block there way out of a paper bag? You expect way too much. He will never say that during the season. He may never say it even if he thinks it. What good would it do? Nothing. No GM or coach in their right mind would ever rip their players to that extent in public. That would be suicide for the GM or coach and the end for the team itself. What is important is what TD believe behind closed doors. If he believes the lines are poor, they are half way to fixing them. If not, well...we'll see more of the same. I was a TD supporter, until I read this... Kyle Shrader (Orlando, FL): When can we admit, as an organization, that both lines have been insufficiently addressed in regard to personnel, and that the personnel we do have does not fit with our "schemes?" Tom Donahoe: As a personnel staff, we do not feel that our lines have been insufficiently addressed. We have addressed the offensive and defensive lines both in free agency and the draft. Our biggest concern with the play of our lines has been inconsistency. At times this year, the line play has been very good and at other times it has been lacking. We have to continue to find a way to play more consistently on both sides of the ball. This is total BS. If he honestly believes this, TD needs to get the boot, and get the boot quickly... 509717[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 It's the same thing week in and week out, we lose. This team not only loses but it gets it's ass kicked hard! Time for a CHANGE at the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 I don't know. I mean, Tom is telling the truth. It's not like they have done nothing. They drafted Williams, signed Anderson, drafted Bannan, traded for Denney, signed a big name in Adams. They tried. Too bad they have virtually nothing but continued decline to show for their efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 You expect him to say that not enough was done and that the buffoons they have on the OL and DL couldn't block there way out of a paper bag? You expect way too much. 509726[/snapback] You're damn right i expect him to say that. Why not? Parcells does it. Bellichek cuts people. JJ used to call people out all of the time. Tom Coughlin does it. Carmen Policy used to do the same. You catching the drift? Put it this way. If you were performing horrendously at your job, shouldn't your boss say or DO something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdelma Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 He should move to DC. Cause he nothing but a professional BS er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 You expect him to say that not enough was done and that the buffoons they have on the OL and DL couldn't block there way out of a paper bag? You expect way too much. He will never say that during the season. He may never say it even if he thinks it. What good would it do? Nothing. No GM or coach in their right mind would ever rip their players to that extent in public. That would be suicide for the GM or coach and the end for the team itself. What is important is what TD believe behind closed doors. If he believes the lines are poor, they are half way to fixing them. If not, well...we'll see more of the same. 509726[/snapback] Actions will speak louder than his words. If he truly believes this BS then BA and TT and MW will still be here next year. My guess is that all three are gone. I think they should use their high 1st round pick on a true LT in a LT rich draft, sign Hutchinson (or someone of his ilk) for LG and quit screwing around at that position, insert Preston at C, Villarial stays at RG, and I say let Gandy and Peters battle it out at RT because you're gonna need a bargain along the line to deal with the MW cap fallout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 You're damn right i expect him to say that. Why not? Parcells does it. Bellichek cuts people. JJ used to call people out all of the time. Tom Coughlin does it. Carmen Policy used to do the same. You catching the drift? Put it this way. If you were performing horrendously at your job, shouldn't your boss say or DO something? 509732[/snapback] I don't expect the GM to call out players, i expect the coach to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 You're damn right i expect him to say that. Why not? Parcells does it. Bellichek cuts people. JJ used to call people out all of the time. Tom Coughlin does it. Carmen Policy used to do the same. You catching the drift? Put it this way. If you were performing horrendously at your job, shouldn't your boss say or DO something? 509732[/snapback] What has Coughlin ever won? What is Parcells's playoff record since the start of Free Agency? Other than 2yrs in Dallas what was JJ's record? Name a starter that Belichek has cut during the season? Carmen Policy, see Parcells. You never throw a player under the bus during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 What has Coughlin ever won? What is Parcells's playoff record since the start of Free Agency? Other than 2yrs in Dallas what was JJ's record? Name a starter that Belichek has cut during the season? Carmen Policy, see Parcells. You never throw a player under the bus during the season. 509790[/snapback] Belly just cut a safety (I can't remember his name) who was starting for them. Are you saying that Parcells isn't a good coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan III Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Are you saying that Parcells isn't a good coach? 509802[/snapback] I'm saying in today's NFL, you cannot throw players under the bus and be successfull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 I'm saying in today's NFL, you cannot throw players under the bus and be successfull. 509809[/snapback] He called out Terry Glenn and called him a woman. Listen to a pc after the Cowboys lose. Parcells doesn't hesitate to call players out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 He called out Terry Glenn and called him a woman. Listen to a pc after the Cowboys lose. Parcells doesn't hesitate to call players out. 509812[/snapback] Did parcells do these kind of things at the beginning of his career as a coach, (too young to remember) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 Did parcells do these kind of things at the beginning of his career as a coach, (too young to remember) 509816[/snapback] Parcells called Glenn a woman I believe in Glenn's rookie year. Parcell's was coaching NE at the time. Parcell's also cut Cortez after Cortez botched a fg against the Seahawks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Parcells called Glenn a woman I believe in Glenn's rookie year. Parcell's was coaching NE at the time. Parcell's also cut Cortez after Cortez botched a fg against the Seahawks. 509818[/snapback] i'm talking about when Parcells just started head coaching. Was he as vocal to his players or is it just as he gained experience, he earned the right to call out players. Remember Mularkey does not have as much authority to call out players as Parcells would, because he can back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBTG81 Posted November 22, 2005 Author Share Posted November 22, 2005 i'm talking about when Parcells just started head coaching. Was he as vocal to his players or is it just as he gained experience, he earned the right to call out players. Remember Mularkey does not have as much authority to call out players as Parcells would, because he can back it up. 509819[/snapback] Yeah, pretty much from the very beginning. If you listen to ex-players such as LT and Simms, they said it made them respect him more for having the balls to call them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Yeah, pretty much from the very beginning. If you listen to ex-players such as LT and Simms, they said it made them respect him more for having the balls to call them out. 509821[/snapback] well the only player MM has called out is WM and it had an impact. When i read MM's Q&A session, it seemed as if he was holding back the truth of how he felt, chances are he doesnt have as much power as he would like in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gross Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 Quick, somebody call Bill Polian and tell him the reason why the Bills didn't win any Super Bowls and why the Colts fail to get there is that he doesn't call out players and tell them they stink. If he changes now, there's still a chance the Colts will make it...And of course the Bills downfall began when Butler started calling players "fine young men." Hopefully AJ Smith has learned from this mistake and will start calling out players this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macaroni Posted November 22, 2005 Share Posted November 22, 2005 What bothers me most about our line situation (the O-line specifically) is that the brain trust at One Bills drive doesn't seem to have a clue as to what to do with the players we DO have. By all accounts McNally is one of the best line coaches in the business ..... but we are shuffling players in and out of position. What the heck would we have done if we were suffering injuries along the line to the scope of New England??? Sure we are a little "dinged up" (Williams and Villy) ...... but give me a break ........ we have an undrafted TE playing RT for us ..... we try to put our RT, who is supposidly too dinged up to play RT, into the LG spot because our LG has attained such a high level of suckatude. What this situation is telling me is that our starters aren't really that good ..... and we have absolutly no depth ...... we may as well cut our backups right now and save Ralph a few bucks because we sure are not going to use them. We have teams throughout the league loosing linemen .... plugging in backups .... and hardly missing a beat ........ have any other team had to resort to starting an undrafted TE????? We're so bad talent wise we can't even field a consistant starting lineup on the line even without any players suffering an injury bad enough to take him out of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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