Crap Throwing Monkey Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Can we start Bruschi? 492309[/snapback] At QB, or left tackle? Doesn't matter, I guess. He can do both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stussy109 Posted October 31, 2005 Author Share Posted October 31, 2005 Hey, where is the option for Shane Matthews in the poll? 492317[/snapback] I thought about putting in Peters as a joke, but then realized i wanted a semi accurate assessment of the fan base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundy249 Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 I am going with KH like the minority. I dont care what everyone says. The sad thing is after the Bye we will still probally be only 1 game out with a 2-1 divisional record. 8-8 could win this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959BillsFan Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 If Holcomb starts, it almost seems like we would be sacrificing the future at the expense of the present. The reality is: 1) We are heading towards the salary cap hell that was here when TD came. 2) We have "veterans" that are too expensive for their age, like when TD came. 3) We are playing the injured vets, at the expense of developing the new guys. Basically, we are approaching the same point as to when TD first came. That isn't the 3 or 5 year plan I would think Ralph Wilson would buy into. If I were Mularkey, I would stop listening/asking for advice from a biased GM. If I were Mularkey, I would realize it is MY reputation on the line and not TD's. I would play the players that deserve to start, not the injured, or the over paid players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 If Holcomb starts, it almost seems like we would be sacrificing the future at the expense of the present. The reality is: 1) We are heading towards the salary cap hell that was here when TD came. 2) We have "veterans" that are too expensive for their age, like when TD came. 3) We are playing the injured vets, at the expense of developing the new guys. Basically, we are approaching the same point as to when TD first came. That isn't the 3 or 5 year plan I would think Ralph Wilson would buy into. If I were Mularkey, I would stop listening/asking for advice from a biased GM. If I were Mularkey, I would realize it is MY reputation on the line and not TD's. I would play the players that deserve to start, not the injured, or the over paid players. 493172[/snapback] Your post is compelling, but there is reason to be a bit more optimistic. The team that TD took over had almost no talent at any position. The players who were killing our team actually cost the team a ton of money to cut. Ostroski and Fina were close to being the very worst in the league at their respective positions, and as I recall, they cost the Bills close to 11 million in dead cap space. Remember too that the total cap was far lower. Also, going into 06, MM will be a 3rd year head coach, as opposed to the rookie GW. Although TD has literally butchered recent drafts, we do have some young prospects/players such as McGee, MaGahee Evans and yes.....Peters, who I strongly hope that they extend. I think that they are also good at DE. I agree that JP should start. I am far from sold on him mind you, but we might as well see now if he is any good. The bright side to look at imo is that we really are not in the kind of cap shape that we were when TD took over. The jests fit into that mold. These Bills do not. I also love having the extra 3rd from the lowly Titans. As many issues as I have with TD, I feel like applauding every time I think of this trade. Bottom line? The Bills need a good draft, some free agents and a break. They might just have that break in Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnykterstein Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 "You're Mike Mularkey" No I'm not. Also I have to note, that this same poll is asked on a lot of other Bills sites, they are all pro-JP, but this one is the most lopsided. Why are TBDers so for JP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 You have to stick with Holcomb for now, he has clearly outplayed JP. They will put JP in the same way they did with Holcomb, late in a game where the starter is clearly struggling and not able to get the job done. As long as he is keeping them in the game, they are going to leave the starter in. I don't think this will be an intellectual decision made in the boardroom over the break. It will be an on-the-field decision during a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BackInDaDay Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 "You're Mike Mularkey" No I'm not. Also I have to note, that this same poll is asked on a lot of other Bills sites, they are all pro-JP, but this one is the most lopsided. Why are TBDers so for JP? 493212[/snapback] Maybe they haven't heard that Tedy B. held a news conference where he stated that he favored JP as the Bill's starter, keeping milk white, and rounding the value of pi to two decimals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959BillsFan Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 Your post is compelling, but there is reason for to be a bit more optimistic. The team that TD took over had almost no talent at any position. The players who were killing our team actually cost the team a ton of money to cut. Ostroski and Fina were close to being the very worst in the league at their respective positions, and as I recall, they cost the Bills close to 11 million in dead cap space. Remember too that the total cap was far lower. Also, going into 06, MM will be a 3rd year head coach, as opposed to the rookie GW. Although TD has literally butchered recent drafts, we do have some young prospects/players such as McGee, MaGahee Evans and yes.....Peters, who I strongly hope that they extend. I think that they are also good at DE. I agree that JP should start. I am far from sold on him mind you, but we might as well see now if he is any good. The bright side to look at imo is that we really are not in the kind of cap shape that we were when TD took over. The jests fit into that mold. These Bills do not. I also love having the extra 3rd from the lowly Titans. As many issues as I have with TD, I feel like applauding every time I think of this trade. Bottom line? The Bills need a good draft, some free agents and a break. They might just have that break in Peters. 493211[/snapback] Yes, you are probably correct. There is some reason to be more optimistic, BUT TD has gotten rid of every single player from the pre-TD regime except for Moulds. I find that interesting and suspecious. For that reason, this is a TD built club. I say club because, they have not demonstrated the team work necessary to be consistent. AND now that is the latest buzz word out of Mularkey and TD, "Consistancy". I guess with all the o-line coaches, all the o-coordinators, all the different "systems" brought in, the two HCs; how is THAT consistent??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bflo83 Posted November 1, 2005 Share Posted November 1, 2005 If I'm Mike Mularkey I start Kelly Holcomb. If I'm just me I start JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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