OnTheRocks Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 This Kerry guy.......is a funny man. Open Mic Night in the Senate "We cannot do our duty if either Judge Roberts or the Bush administration hides elements of his professional record," Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 This Kerry guy.......is a funny man. Open Mic Night in the Senate 388700[/snapback] He'll change his position. At least twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 He'll change his position. At least twice. 388784[/snapback] i don't understand why everyone is on john kerry for changing positions people tend to change positions when they f*ck to better satisfy their partner as a politician, JK is in the buisiness of f*cking the american people so by changing positions, he is better satisfying the american people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 i don't understand why everyone is on john kerry for changing positions people tend to change positions when they f*ck to better satisfy their partner as a politician, JK is in the buisiness of f*cking the american people so by changing positions, he is better satisfying the american people 388792[/snapback] I couldn't in my worst drug induced nitemares imagine f***ing John Kerry (or his wife, for that matter). Piccard would, though. Kirk > Piccard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemur King Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 This Kerry guy.......is a funny man. Open Mic Night in the Senate 388700[/snapback] Leakers will be fired/leakers that break the law will be fired. Got maple syrup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of BiB Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Leakers will be fired/leakers that break the law will be fired. Got maple syrup? 388818[/snapback] Actually, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I wish John Kerry would stop running for president already. He's constantly sending e-mails to anyone who contributed to his campaign and he has this delusion that he can both get the Dems nomination & win the election in 2008. It's over, John. You proved that you don't have what it takes to win an election on a national level, and you're getting too old. Get out of the way and let someone who can actually win the presidency get the nomination. That means someone who is not from the northeast (this means you too Hillary) and does not have the baggage that causes so many people to hate you and vow never to vote for you. If the Democrats want to win the presidency in the forseeable future, they'll have to go to someone who has proven he can win elections in a red state. That excludes Kerry, H. Clinton & any other candidate with delusions of grandeur. I'd also throw Edwards out since he was a total dud (and he was an embarrassment on some of the Sunday am talk shows) during the campaign. I don't care who it is, just give me a moderate candidate from either party and stop running far right & far left candidates. Somehow, I doubt the Republicans will do this until their right wingers start losing and the Democrats may be too dumb to realize the far left is certain defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 This Kerry guy.......is a funny man. Open Mic Night in the Senate 388700[/snapback] Of course he leaves out the fact that no judicial nominee has EVER done that and in fact Sandra Day O'Connor herself said that that was not appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 Of course he leaves out the fact that no judicial nominee has EVER done that and in fact Sandra Day O'Connor herself said that that was not appropriate. 388874[/snapback] Details...details... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I wish John Kerry would stop running for president already. He's constantly sending e-mails to anyone who contributed to his campaign and he has this delusion that he can both get the Dems nomination & win the election in 2008. It's over, John. You proved that you don't have what it takes to win an election on a national level, and you're getting too old. Get out of the way and let someone who can actually win the presidency get the nomination. That means someone who is not from the northeast (this means you too Hillary) and does not have the baggage that causes so many people to hate you and vow never to vote for you. If the Democrats want to win the presidency in the forseeable future, they'll have to go to someone who has proven he can win elections in a red state. That excludes Kerry, H. Clinton & any other candidate with delusions of grandeur. I'd also throw Edwards out since he was a total dud (and he was an embarrassment on some of the Sunday am talk shows) during the campaign. I don't care who it is, just give me a moderate candidate from either party and stop running far right & far left candidates. Somehow, I doubt the Republicans will do this until their right wingers start losing and the Democrats may be too dumb to realize the far left is certain defeat. 388839[/snapback] Who, on the left, do you feel has the best chance to win if not Kerry, Hillary or Edwards? I agree with you that Kerry has no shot. He was a failure as a candidate in 2004 and he has basically done nothing to improve things since then. Of course, as long as the right keeps sending out people like Bush and the left keeps sending out people like Kerry, the third parties will continue to benefit. There is a reason why the Libertarian Party is growing faster than either the Dems or Republicans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I wish John Kerry would stop running for president already... 388839[/snapback] I am sure his crackerjack campaign staff from the last election is telling him this approach is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted July 23, 2005 Share Posted July 23, 2005 I wish John Kerry would stop running for president already. He's constantly sending e-mails to anyone who contributed to his campaign and he has this delusion that he can both get the Dems nomination & win the election in 2008. It's over, John. You proved that you don't have what it takes to win an election on a national level, and you're getting too old. Get out of the way and let someone who can actually win the presidency get the nomination. That means someone who is not from the northeast (this means you too Hillary) and does not have the baggage that causes so many people to hate you and vow never to vote for you. If the Democrats want to win the presidency in the forseeable future, they'll have to go to someone who has proven he can win elections in a red state. That excludes Kerry, H. Clinton & any other candidate with delusions of grandeur. I'd also throw Edwards out since he was a total dud (and he was an embarrassment on some of the Sunday am talk shows) during the campaign. I don't care who it is, just give me a moderate candidate from either party and stop running far right & far left candidates. Somehow, I doubt the Republicans will do this until their right wingers start losing and the Democrats may be too dumb to realize the far left is certain defeat. 388839[/snapback] I know people in red states who did vote for Kerry- who say there is no way they'd vote for Hillary Clinton. If she gets thenomination, they might as well not hold an election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live&DieBillsFootball Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I can't imagine that the Dems won't be able to come up with someone better than JK to run in 2008. They definitely need someone from a red state that can at least win his own state and a few more to go with the northeast and California. Gore couldn't even win his own state of Tenn in 2000, and Edwards delivered nothing as VP in 2004. Hilary is unelectable. It was really a drag living in NY for the 2004 election as the state was solidly democratic and neither candidate even bothered much as Kerry took NY for granted and Bush knew he had no chance. Bush even found a way to reward the red states by pushing through the sales tax deduction which meant nothing to NY but was a nice gift for TX, FL, TN and other states with low/no state income tax. It's funny how some of the biggest states can be taken for granted and everything rides on the few battleground states. Almost makes me wish that the electoral college would get scrapped. It would at least make candidates have to campaign in NY. Oh well, not really about Roberts, but I had to get that off my chest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted July 24, 2005 Author Share Posted July 24, 2005 i think the battle for the Democratic Nomination will be a dirtier fight than the battle for the White House......if that is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 i think the battle for the Democratic Nomination will be a dirtier fight than the battle for the White House......if that is possible. 388968[/snapback] I would say you hit the nail on the head with that statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I would say you hit the nail on the head with that statement. 388971[/snapback] The Penis Mightier > Anal Bum Cover You're sittin on a gold mine Trebek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I couldn't in my worst drug induced nitemares imagine f***ing John Kerry (or his wife, for that matter). Piccard would, though. Kirk > Piccard. 388798[/snapback] Cept that not even she would want Kirk to nail her. Advantage: Picard (with 1 c ) Who, on the left, do you feel has the best chance to win if not Kerry, Hillary or Edwards? I agree with you that Kerry has no shot. He was a failure as a candidate in 2004 and he has basically done nothing to improve things since then. Of course, as long as the right keeps sending out people like Bush and the left keeps sending out people like Kerry, the third parties will continue to benefit. There is a reason why the Libertarian Party is growing faster than either the Dems or Republicans. 388886[/snapback] The reason why the LP is growing faster then either party is because its not like people are gonna suddenly start loving one of the two monster parties in the US (most people think political parties, especially monster ones, hurt America, and are only staying with oen party because they identify with that party). They're the only credible 3rd party right now (sorry Greens) and if you are truely independent and swayed by another party, you're gonna go to the 3rd party thats more likely to make a difference (the LP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRC Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 The reason why the LP is growing faster then either party is because its not like people are gonna suddenly start loving one of the two monster parties in the US (most people think political parties, especially monster ones, hurt America, and are only staying with oen party because they identify with that party). They're the only credible 3rd party right now (sorry Greens) and if you are truely independent and swayed by another party, you're gonna go to the 3rd party thats more likely to make a difference (the LP). 389100[/snapback] People are leaving the Big Two and going with a different party (the Libertarians) because they are ticked off at what the Big Two are doing to the states and the country. They want them out of power and to send them a message and the best way to do that is support third party candidates. I see this on a daily basis in the work I am doing with the Libertarians. Hell, over the weekend, we saw five people in one county change their voter registration from R/D to Libertarian just over the pay raises here in PA. People are tired of the crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 People are leaving the Big Two and going with a different party (the Libertarians) because they are ticked off at what the Big Two are doing to the states and the country. They want them out of power and to send them a message and the best way to do that is support third party candidates. I see this on a daily basis in the work I am doing with the Libertarians. Hell, over the weekend, we saw five people in one county change their voter registration from R/D to Libertarian just over the pay raises here in PA. People are tired of the crap. 389286[/snapback] What pay raises? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted July 25, 2005 Share Posted July 25, 2005 People are leaving the Big Two and going with a different party (the Libertarians) because they are ticked off at what the Big Two are doing to the states and the country. They want them out of power and to send them a message and the best way to do that is support third party candidates. I see this on a daily basis in the work I am doing with the Libertarians. Hell, over the weekend, we saw five people in one county change their voter registration from R/D to Libertarian just over the pay raises here in PA. People are tired of the crap. 389286[/snapback] That might be true in those individual cases in your counties, but the statistics tell a different story over the whole US. People are just as partisan today as they were back in 1952. In fact, if you are looking at the short-term, between 98 and 02 the number of people identifying themselves as independents dropped by 3 points (4 from 00 to 02). The number of people who identify themselves as truely independent of the two major parties has remained relatively stable between 1952 and 2002 at around 10% of the population or so. 7-point scale data: http://www.umich.edu/~nes/nesguide/toptable/tab2a_1.htm Graph of true Independents: http://www.umich.edu/~nes/nesguide/graphs/g2a_2_3.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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