D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 24 minutes ago, Tanoros said: You have to also add in the 3rd we gave up for Amari Cooper last year (3 points), and it was pre Bean, but it impacted Beane’s first draft and that’s the 3rd we gave up for Benjamin (3 points). Overall since 2018 we’d have the equivalent of 19 points towards receiver. Which is much closer to the average than 5. That’s not even factoring in all the other picks we gave up for Cooper, Diggs, Benjamin, which meant we had less resources for other positions, which in turn could impact future drafts. Overall, I think everyone agrees Beane should have emphasized receiver much more than he has. I’ve wanted a top receiver for quite some time, hoping that we would trade up for one. Every GM and team is going to have their own strategies and for whatever reason Beane has not valued drafting receivers high, which is so frustrating. Thanks.But, don't forget the other teams have traded resources as well, not just the Bills. Quote
Capco Posted 22 minutes ago Posted 22 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Dick_Cheney said: I thought about it and I get why he is usually one of, if not the, go to pick/s, but in my mind, I factor in what's at stake for when that player is drafted. Sure, it would have been amazing to have him work out and be a bedrock of the team for a decade going forward, but those teams had an ungodly amount of problems all around. With Keon, it's a lot more bleak in my opinion. Drafted to hopefully be a true game changing weapon for Josh, and a critical piece for the team to finally, finally get over the hump and win a Super Bowl, or hell, even get to one again. Instead we've gotten...yeah. I think people are underestimating that side of things, and as much as I still absolutely want the guy to turn into that kind of player, it's not looking good. I really don't know what it would take. Usually, outside of a near death experience, nothing really changes a person's internal motivation to succeed or to truly reinvent themselves to become the best version of themselves possible. Fair point on the different situations and the end result for the Bills if either player reached their potential. Quote
Nihilarian Posted 11 minutes ago Posted 11 minutes ago 36 minutes ago, NewEra said: This is the point of my original post. He CAN get separation and run very good routes. He CAN get deep and push defenses back to cover the 15-30 yard pass. We’ve barely tried to let him show it. I can recall 3 great intermediate-deep routes that led to 3 huge plays for us this season. One of which was a game winner. It would’ve been nice to see more of them early on, but Brady was too busy calling WR screens and Josh was too busy bailing from the pocket prematurely. to answer your question, he can help move the chains. He could also help keep defenses honest if we took some shots with him. But we don’t. Certain Bills fans here have been constantly complaining about how Buffalo needs that #1 WR since that first loss, and yet they were the #2 scoring team in the NFL last season, #1 including the playoffs. What those fans don't get is the Bills were able to score like crazy in the passing game last season, and in particular against Detroit, and LA Rams. What they also don't get is for whatever reason, this OC has fallen on his face this year. Whether on purpose or a lack of knowledge on how to scheme a great passing offense. My take, I think it's because he is looking elsewhere. That game plan against the Texans showed the world he doesn't shiv a git about getting Josh Allen injured or killed, as he didn't have an extra lineman in there to max protect and kept calling for mid to deep passing plays. EIGHT sacks showed us that. I think he wants out of Buffalo for some reason. If I'm McD, I'd oblige to a degree and demote him. I could be wrong, and he is simply inept at installing new game plans. I fear it's not the receivers, it's the OC! Quote
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