corta765 Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago On 10/20/2025 at 7:58 AM, zow2 said: Josh doesn't really look the same as last season's MVP year (other than the final 4:30 of the Ravens game). His stats are Ok but he does not look the same i think we can agree, and that is also due to lackluster O-line play and subpar/no chemistry with the wideouts. On another note, also interesting that Saquon Barkley is only averaging 3.3 ypc on 113 carries... that's a shell of what he was last season. Lamar is hurt, Burrow is hurt. It just goes to show that playing at the highest level year in and year out is HARD. Nothing is guaranteed. It shows that variance is a real thing which fans and teams tend to ignore. I read a piece on Jaylen Daniels and he played at such a high level last year that he was basically guaranteed "regression" this year despite the simply fact statistically it is impossible for him to hold that high of a level play that long. It doesn't mean he sucks as much as he really had a great year and some things will fall the opposite way. With Josh he basically didn't turn the ball over or get sacked all season so the offense rolled 24/7 and they were really disciplined all season penalty wise. Non surprisingly things have swung back a little bit so it is "what is wrong" rather then just the odds balancing. The odds will also balance back a bit here and he will have a bunch of good games, but it is tremendously difficult to play at a super high level year in year out without turnovers or sacks etc.. even for the best players. It is why I wanted them to add more at WR as it would have balanced the regression the Bills were destined to hit in terms of turnovers and penalties. In 2023 Josh was mentioned by seasons end as an MVP type candidate by some media analysts, but the opening stinker against the Jets mixed with some average games during the middle of the year killed any real chance of him being in the race and with how media formulates opinions he never had a shot then. What you come to realize is the truly best players have a bunch of great years spread out or occasionally back to back, but their "down years" are still at a very high level of play that most players fail to hold regularly. 2 1 Quote
zow2 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, corta765 said: What you come to realize is the truly best players have a bunch of great years spread out or occasionally back to back, but their "down years" are still at a very high level of play that most players fail to hold regularly. Solid points all around. What irks me is that when Mahomes went through a couple "normal" seasons but not fantastic in 2023 & 2024....they still get the #1 seed and make Super Bowls. Defense matters. Quote
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