Joe Ferguson forever Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Your experiences in Cuba, and opinions on same, immediately disqualify you as any arbiter of 'freedom of speech'. I'm sitting across from a famous poster by a Cuban artist (Ares): We met him in his studio and I quizzed him on censorship. He had plenty of art critical of the Cuban government. We also met some dissidents. I asked if they might be imprisoned for their work and they said it was unlikely but possible. I guess kinda like here, see Bolton, John and Comey, James. Edited 16 hours ago by Joe Ferguson forever
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'm sitting across from a famous poster by a Cuban artist (Ares): We met him in his studio and I quizzed him on censorship. He had plenty of art critical of the Cuban government. We also met some dissidents. I asked if they might be imprisoned for their work and they said it was unlikely but possible. I guess kinda like here, see Bolton, John and Comey, James. Trump, Donald. As for Ares, I suppose it’s possible that happened. I see he’s got some significant accolades but geesh, from a creative perspective, looks like he sorta mailed this one in. Was there only one format Obama approved of? Looks like Ares took the HOPE poster, changed the solemn look and gave him a smile and a Cuban general’s tunic.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Trump, Donald. As for Ares, I suppose it’s possible that happened. I see he’s got some significant accolades but geesh, from a creative perspective, looks like he sorta mailed this one in. Was there only one format Obama approved of? Looks like Ares took the HOPE poster, changed the solemn look and gave him a smile and a Cuban general’s tunic. iit's not about Ares, although a guy who worked as an inpatient psychiatrist before concentrating on art is pretty unusual and interesting. It's about freedom of speech and risk of persecution. It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America. It may be the opposite. I saw a small sample of activists who didn't seem fearful. But it's clear that under trump, freedom of speech is under attack. Why would any American support that?
JDHillFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America. It may be the opposite. 2025 democrat in a nutshell. Sigh. 2
All_Pro_Bills Posted 33 minutes ago Posted 33 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: iit's not about Ares, although a guy who worked as an inpatient psychiatrist before concentrating on art is pretty unusual and interesting. It's about freedom of speech and risk of persecution. It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America. It may be the opposite. I saw a small sample of activists who didn't seem fearful. But it's clear that under trump, freedom of speech is under attack. Why would any American support that? Under attack, for example, from government collusion with and coercing of social media platforms to censor views and opinions deemed critical of the regime? What you're glossing over is the fact Democrats under the Biden administration threw the first punch in the effort to suppress free of speech. Add in deploying street goons to inflict violence on those participating in protests and events where the exercise of free speech is attacked and you've got all that authoritarian crap the liberal cult complains about.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: iit's not about Ares, although a guy who worked as an inpatient psychiatrist before concentrating on art is pretty unusual and interesting. It's about freedom of speech and risk of persecution. It may be that Cuba is worse on this issue than America. It may be the opposite. I saw a small sample of activists who didn't seem fearful. But it's clear that under trump, freedom of speech is under attack. Why would any American support that? Very interesting, though I'm not sure you named-dropped him, shared a picture of his poster if you didn't want to involve him in the dialogue. I can't speak to why you feel the way you do about Cuba v. America. I haven't visited Cuba, have no plans to, and don't see it as a flip of the coin sort of thing. I do think, though, that some Americans do not like dissenting voices and prefer freedom of speech only when viewed through the prism of imagined elitism---I think that describes you and explains why you see things the way you do.
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