Training Camp Notes - 7/27 (Astro’s counterpart)

[Jerry Jabber]

https://buffalofambase.com/2025/07/27/smile-for-cameras-day-4-bills-camp-notes/

[chris heff]

Thanks, good insights.

[Nephilim17]

Good to hear that Kincaid will likely have a busy year and that Coleman had the offensive play of the day.

[PoundingDog]

The thing with Kincaid is that in the training camp setting, he would shine brightly because it maximizes his traits: he gets open.   

 

The one thing I'm not sure about is contested catches and I don't see much improvement last year vs his rookie season. The guy has a college catch rate 75% to 78% last 2 years in CFB, absolutely the best. In NFL, the Bills brass and everyone rightfully thought he's going to pop after a catch rate of 80% in 2023. Then last year to 58%. Maybe it is injury. Maybe it is adjustment the defenses have made to make it more contested situation. I just know that he's not someone when the ball is in the vicinity, he has hands to catch it (like Diggs); he relies on his legs to get into his "catching position", i.e. he's not going to make acrobatic, body-twisting catches. 

[Mister Defense]

14 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

The thing with Kincaid is that in the training camp setting, he would shine brightly because it maximizes his traits: he gets open.   

 

The one thing I'm not sure about is contested catches and I don't see much improvement last year vs his rookie season. The guy has a college catch rate 75% to 78% last 2 years in CFB, absolutely the best. In NFL, the Bills brass and everyone rightfully thought he's going to pop after a catch rate of 80% in 2023. Then last year to 58%. Maybe it is injury. Maybe it is adjustment the defenses have made to make it more contested situation. I just know that he's not someone when the ball is in the vicinity, he has hands to catch it (like Diggs); he relies on his legs to get into his "catching position", i.e. he's not going to make acrobatic, body-twisting catches. 

 

Why are you so certain that Kincaid is not a reliable receiver when he is targeted, saying, "I just know that he's not someone when the ball is in the vicinity, he has hands to catch it (like Diggs)"--?

 

Yet as you summarize Kincaid's previous few years, in college and in the NFL, he had an outstanding catch rate, clearly showing that when the ball is in the vicinity he was extremely likely to catch it.

 

I am confused why the catch rate from last year completely erases, for you, that excellent ability to catch the ball, something Bills' fans are counting on this year?

 

The other years he did so well at catching the ball are seemingly erased for you because of last year, one year, despite an injury that clearly had a negative impact.

 

Unless I am misreading it, this seems very off, like the glass is not just half empty, but almost empty when ti comes to Kincaid's potential. Extremely unrealistic based on the facts that you yourself cite. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Doc Brown]

15 hours ago, PoundingDog said:

The thing with Kincaid is that in the training camp setting, he would shine brightly because it maximizes his traits: he gets open.   

 

The one thing I'm not sure about is contested catches and I don't see much improvement last year vs his rookie season. The guy has a college catch rate 75% to 78% last 2 years in CFB, absolutely the best. In NFL, the Bills brass and everyone rightfully thought he's going to pop after a catch rate of 80% in 2023. Then last year to 58%. Maybe it is injury. Maybe it is adjustment the defenses have made to make it more contested situation. I just know that he's not someone when the ball is in the vicinity, he has hands to catch it (like Diggs); he relies on his legs to get into his "catching position", i.e. he's not going to make acrobatic, body-twisting catches. 

That kind of proves that last year was pry the anomaly?  Kincaid replaced Davis as Josh's favorite throw the ball away target.  Josh also misfired A LOT when targeting Kincaid.  His major injury was caused by an overthrow.  Their chemistry this year needs to drastically improve.