4th&long Posted July 15 Posted July 15 Turns out trump thinks his base is a bunch of idiots like I do. I might start to like the guy now!
Big Blitz Posted July 15 Posted July 15 Dems playing politics with an issue they never cared about. Until last week. Still waiting for the libs here to post their comments pre 2025 demanding their release.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 18 hours ago, Big Blitz said: Dems playing politics with an issue they never cared about. Until last week. Still waiting for the libs here to post their comments pre 2025 demanding their release. More obfuscation on the amendment. Bondi promised the files released. That's what the amendment required. Many on this board are now divorced from trump and MAGA. How does that make you feel? https://www.infowars.com/posts/bombshell-trump-goes-scorched-earth-on-jeffrey-epstein-hoax-disowns-past-supporters-who-bought-into-this-bull#### Continuing to bash millions of people who voted for him, POTUS said, “Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, don’t even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I don’t want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!” Edited July 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
Big Blitz Posted July 16 Posted July 16 3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: More obfuscation on the amendment. Bondi promised the files released. That's what the amendment required. Many on this board are now divorced from trump and MAGA. How does that make you feel? https://www.infowars.com/posts/bombshell-trump-goes-scorched-earth-on-jeffrey-epstein-hoax-disowns-past-supporters-who-bought-into-this-bull#### Did Team Biden protect the pedos? Yes or no.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Did Team Biden protect the pedos? Yes or no. no. no evidence that they did. why they didn't release the files is pure conjecture but they never promised to. how does the divorce sit with you? Edited July 16 by Joe Ferguson forever
Big Blitz Posted July 16 Posted July 16 1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: no. no evidence that they did. why they didn't release the files is pure conjecture but they never promised to. how does the divorce sit with you? Trump NEVER promised to release the files. Biden NEVER released the files as MAGA called for their release for over 4 years. Why did Biden protect pedos? Here is why:
All_Pro_Bills Posted July 16 Posted July 16 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Did Team Biden protect the pedos? Yes or no. All we can say for sure is Garland and the DOJ under Biden had the same evidence, if not more as we don't know what might be been destroyed, as that available to the Bondi DOJ under Trump. Neither has been forthcoming on the topic. And for those proposing Trump's name is prominently displayed on "the list", forget that thought. Because if he was on it there's a 100% certainty it would have been leaked to the Times or Post before the 2024 election. It would have been a sure thing for the Democrats to eliminate Trump without the need to manufacture or create any political or criminal mythology. An insightful observation noted a while back by @leh-nerd skin-erd was that "government will seek to avoid transparency at all costs". That standard operating procedure looks to be at work here too. If you subscribe to this avoiding transparency doctrine you'll be able to manage your expectations for government much more effectively. Expect nothing and get nothing. Edited July 16 by All_Pro_Bills
Big Blitz Posted July 16 Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: All we can say for sure is Garland and the DOJ under Biden had the same evidence, if not more as we don't know what might be been destroyed, as that available to the Bondi DOJ under Trump. Neither has been forthcoming on the topic. And for those proposing Trump's name is prominently displayed on "the list", forget that thought. Because if he was on it there's a 100% certainty it would have been leaked to the Times or Post before the 2024 election. It would have been a sure thing for the Democrats to eliminate Trump without the need to manufacture or create any political or criminal mythology. An insightful observation noted a while back by @leh-nerd skin-erd was that "government will seek to avoid transparency at all costs". That standard operating procedure looks to be at work here too. If you subscribe to this avoiding transparency doctrine you'll be able to manage your expectations for government much more effectively. Expect nothing and get nothing. I never expected the Epstein files to see the light of day - would be nice if possible but I get why there are all kinds of issues at play here. But I absolutely expected heads to roll over Russia-gate, the Auto Pen, Fauci, election fraud, and a complete house cleaning of the MIC. So far: Russia-gate is being investigated We are clearing voter rolls The Auto-Pen investigation is starting The State Department is cleaning house The DOD has absolutely cleaned house Those were my priorities for this administration regarding the messes that needed to be cleaned up. Epstein wasn’t a mess the way those other scandals are. Epstein just became a symbol of the Deep State to well, everyone, and maybe that’s our fault. To some extent. Just because there may not be anything else there doesn’t mean that a 2 tiered justice system doesn’t exist. Just because there may not be much else there doesn’t make the other scandals or government corruption invalid. If there is anything on the Epstein front Trump is hiding it’s the potentially 100s of people tied to Epstein money or parties that will get wrongly convicted in the court of public opinion because of guilt by association. Im sure Democrats and Republicans - anyone connected to them have been fighting to not have EVERYTHING released. Not because we are protecting pedos which is absolutely absurd. Could Bill Clinton have slept with a minor courtesy of Epstein? I guess that’s possible. I’m not sure they have enough that just doesn’t make it look like they are weaponizing the files to attack political opponents. The media will either run with that or, Team Trump doctored them.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 16 Posted July 16 19 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: Because if he was on it there's a 100% certainty it would have been leaked to the Times or Post before the 2024 election. It would have been a sure thing for the Democrats to eliminate Trump without the need to manufacture or create any political or criminal mythology. nah. they voted for him despite his rape conviction, the grab the ##### tape, his role in Jan 6 etc. why would this matter to them?
Homelander Posted July 16 Posted July 16 21 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said: All we can say for sure is Garland and the DOJ under Biden had the same evidence, if not more as we don't know what might be been destroyed, as that available to the Bondi DOJ under Trump. Neither has been forthcoming on the topic. And for those proposing Trump's name is prominently displayed on "the list", forget that thought. Because if he was on it there's a 100% certainty it would have been leaked to the Times or Post before the 2024 election. It would have been a sure thing for the Democrats to eliminate Trump without the need to manufacture or create any political or criminal mythology. An insightful observation noted a while back by @leh-nerd skin-erd was that "government will seek to avoid transparency at all costs". That standard operating procedure looks to be at work here too. If you subscribe to this avoiding transparency doctrine you'll be able to manage your expectations for government much more effectively. Expect nothing and get nothing. The lack of transparency from both administrations doesn’t prove-disprove Trump’s innocence - it just underscores the reality that the system protects its own, regardless of who's in charge. It doesn’t erase credible allegations, and it certainly doesn’t explain why Trump campaigned on releasing the Epstein files… and never did. Trump and his orbit made Epstein a central part of their “drain the swamp” narrative - then buried it the moment it became politically inconvenient. Democrats didn’t run on this issue. Trump did. His appointees did. So if you're looking for someone to blame for the silence and broken promises, start with the mirror. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 16 Posted July 16 the flight logs were "leaked" from court documents in 2024 before the election. MAGA didn't care https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-flight-logs-1913523
AlBUNDY4TDS Posted July 16 Posted July 16 8 minutes ago, Homelander said: The lack of transparency from both administrations doesn’t prove-disprove Trump’s innocence - it just underscores the reality that the system protects its own, regardless of who's in charge. It doesn’t erase credible allegations, and it certainly doesn’t explain why Trump campaigned on releasing the Epstein files… and never did. Trump and his orbit made Epstein a central part of their “drain the swamp” narrative - then buried it the moment it became politically inconvenient. Democrats didn’t run on this issue. Trump did. His appointees did. So if you're looking for someone to blame for the silence and broken promises, start with the mirror. Omg so he didn't deliver on one campaign promise. You really are pathetic. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted July 16 Posted July 16 12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I never expected the Epstein files to see the light of day - would be nice if possible but I get why there are all kinds of issues at play here. But I absolutely expected heads to roll over Russia-gate, the Auto Pen, Fauci, election fraud, and a complete house cleaning of the MIC. So far: Russia-gate is being investigated We are clearing voter rolls The Auto-Pen investigation is starting The State Department is cleaning house The DOD has absolutely cleaned house Those were my priorities for this administration regarding the messes that needed to be cleaned up. Epstein wasn’t a mess the way those other scandals are. Epstein just became a symbol of the Deep State to well, everyone, and maybe that’s our fault. To some extent. Just because there may not be anything else there doesn’t mean that a 2 tiered justice system doesn’t exist. Just because there may not be much else there doesn’t make the other scandals or government corruption invalid. If there is anything on the Epstein front Trump is hiding it’s the potentially 100s of people tied to Epstein money or parties that will get wrongly convicted in the court of public opinion because of guilt by association. Im sure Democrats and Republicans - anyone connected to them have been fighting to not have EVERYTHING released. Not because we are protecting pedos which is absolutely absurd. Could Bill Clinton have slept with a minor courtesy of Epstein? I guess that’s possible. I’m not sure they have enough that just doesn’t make it look like they are weaponizing the files to attack political opponents. The media will either run with that or, Team Trump doctored them. it was the amendment that tanked the disclosure!
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