Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 10 Posted August 10 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: You guys are amazing here let me list the liberal versions of this guy that committed a lot of violence this year: Antifa Stop Oil Anti ICE Anti Tesla And that is simply off the top of my head. This guy does not represent me but if you are trying to equate violence from my side to yours it is pathetic. the difference is that I'm anti only one of these things: fascism. Which every American should be. ICE is fine except for wearing masks and illegally deporting people without due process. So I'm against anti American values and actions. The vaccines prevented even more massive death and suffering. The promoted American values like compassion and looking out for your countrymen. You're against ithem because they symbolize a pandemic that set your life back. Your beef should be with the virus. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status Edited August 10 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Wolfgang Posted August 10 Posted August 10 1 hour ago, 4th&long said: Case in point. This is why I was against making people get the vaccine. The more of these idiots that died the better of this country will be. I hope all you idiots listen to RFK. White trash. Unvaccinated... Still alive... And still black... All that hate is gonna burn you up kid lol... Like I said, go take another booster... Your fear and obedience will serve you well... 1 1
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 10 Posted August 10 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: the difference is that I'm anti only one of these things: fascism. Which every American should be. ICE is fine except for wearing masks and illegally deporting people without due process. So I'm against anti American values and actions. The vaccines prevented even more massive death and suffering. The promoted American values like compassion and looking out for your countrymen. You're against ithem because they symbolize a pandemic that set your life back. Your beef should be with the virus. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status Nice double standard- 100k liberals cause damage don't represent you, but one conservative and we are the problem. BTW Antifa is a fascist organization and only the historically ignorant support them in anything. 1 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 10 Posted August 10 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: Nice double standard- 100k liberals cause damage don't represent you, but one conservative and we are the problem. BTW Antifa is a fascist organization and only the historically ignorant support them in anything. anti fascist does not mean pro antifa. anti vax means anti vax... put your age group in this graphic, then put in mine. even if your less than 30, the vax decreased your groups death rate significantly. Mine much, much more and for all Americans it resulted in huge declines. But it didn't suit you, so... https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status data fron CDC. Edited August 10 by Joe Ferguson forever
Orlando Buffalo Posted August 10 Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: anti fascist does not mean pro antifa. anti vax means anti vax... put your age group in this graphic, then put in mine. even if your less than 30, the vax decreased your groups death rate significantly. Mine much, much more and for all Americans it resulted in huge declines. But it didn't suit you, so... https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/united-states-rates-of-covid-19-deaths-by-vaccination-status data fron CDC. For your decrease in death rate you are either a liar or stupid. The total deaths of those under 50 for the entire 4 years is under 75k, and well over 50k of that was in 2020 long before younger people could get the vaccine. Basing that number on the chart you linked to, which indicates that the unvaccinated death rate crashed in early 2022, shows that the vaccine likely had little effect on people my age or younger. I appreciate you though showing me the crashing number for those unvaccinated showing that for most people it was not what saved them. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 10 Posted August 10 6 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: For your decrease in death rate you are either a liar or stupid. The total deaths of those under 50 for the entire 4 years is under 75k, and well over 50k of that was in 2020 long before younger people could get the vaccine. Basing that number on the chart you linked to, which indicates that the unvaccinated death rate crashed in early 2022, shows that the vaccine likely had little effect on people my age or younger. I appreciate you though showing me the crashing number for those unvaccinated showing that for most people it was not what saved them. t the height of the pandemic, there was a 10 fold decrease in the death rate for all vaxxed Americans. There was still multiple factor decrease in deaths for al age groups. It was prevalent infection unlike say, tetanus ewhich we also vax against because tetanus also kills people but at a much lower rate. Herd immunity is still a proven infectious disease core principle. The fact that you are most concerned with your age group and younger confirms my suspicions of your selfishness on this issue. Do you have living parents or grandparents? Do you care about them? The death rate went down for everyone in 2022, very likely due to the vaccine and resistance to the virus from it. The untaxed continued to have death rates much higher than the vaxxed even after 2022 and the same continues today. Explain your reasoning and conclusion here: I appreciate you though showing me the crashing number for those unvaccinated showing that for most people it was not what saved them. 1
BillsFanNC Posted August 10 Posted August 10 I imagine 4th&schlong as being an angry obese 60+ moron. Should he have taken the vaccine? 100% Finding also. Pushing 60. Pasty, pear shaped and flabby. Should he have taken the vaccine? Absolutely. Should either of them been compelled to take it by their government, employer or any other entity? Absolutely not. Should anyone under around 35 without any existing health conditions have taken the vaccine? In almost every case, no. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 10 Posted August 10 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Orlando Buffalo said: I appreciate you though showing me the crashing number for those unvaccinated showing that for most people it was not what saved them. Here's AiI's explanation: Factors Contributing to the Decrease in COVID-19 Death Rate in 2022 Vaccination and Immunity Widespread vaccination efforts increased immunity in the population. Vaccines became more effective at preventing severe illness and death. Improved Treatments Advances in treatment protocols for COVID-19 helped reduce mortality rates. Healthcare providers gained better understanding and management of the disease. Public Health Measures Continued implementation of public health measures, such as mask-wearing and social distancing, contributed to lower transmission rates. Increased awareness and adherence to preventive measures among the public. Demographic Changes The age-adjusted death rate showed significant declines, particularly among younger populations. Most deaths continued to occur in older adults, but the overall impact on mortality rates was lessened due to increased protection in vulnerable groups. Statistical Trends COVID-19 was the underlying cause in approximately 244,000 deaths in the U.S. in 2022, a significant drop from previous years. The age-adjusted death rate declined by 47% compared to 2021, indicating a substantial improvement in outcomes. Edited August 10 by Joe Ferguson forever
BillsFanNC Posted August 10 Posted August 10 As a vaccine scientist absolutely nothing reinforces my position more than having a Quack, MD disagree with me. Always appreciate the seal of approval Quack. 👍 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 10 Posted August 10 7 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: As a vaccine scientist absolutely nothing reinforces my position more than having a Quack, MD disagree with me. Always appreciate the seal of approval Quack. 👍 You’re fos. Refute the data “scientist”. It seems more likely you’re unemployed given your posting endlessly and at all hours. 2 1
4th&long Posted August 10 Posted August 10 2 hours ago, Wolfgang said: Unvaccinated... Still alive... And still black... All that hate is gonna burn you up kid lol... Like I said, go take another booster... Your fear and obedience will serve you well... Obviously your still alive sh it for brains. Fear of what exactly? Obedience to who? I made my own decision for me. You should learn to think for yourself. I took the first vaccine and am healthy as ever. You idiots are bringing back disease that have been gone for decades. Great job. I'll be fine though.
Wolfgang Posted August 10 Posted August 10 1 minute ago, 4th&long said: Obviously your still alive sh it for brains. Fear of what exactly? Obedience to who? I made my own decision for me. You should learn to think for yourself. I took the first vaccine and am healthy as ever. You idiots are bringing back disease that have been gone for decades. Great job. I'll be fine though. Lol... Yeah, you sound fine...
4th&long Posted August 10 Posted August 10 10 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: Lol... Yeah, you sound fine... You don't. Brainless, that will cost you more than anything else.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 10 Posted August 10 59 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: As a vaccine scientist absolutely nothing reinforces my position more than having a Quack, MD disagree with me. Always appreciate the seal of approval Quack. 👍 Congrats “scientist”. Used two logical fallacies in one sentence: appeal to (false) authority and ad hominem.
Wolfgang Posted August 10 Posted August 10 57 minutes ago, 4th&long said: You don't. Brainless, that will cost you more than anything else. You called a black man white trash for not taking your BS covid shot... But hey, if it helps your self esteem, cool... Maybe you need another booster to balance out your hormones... How many boosters are you up to now?
stevestojan Posted August 10 Posted August 10 51 minutes ago, Wolfgang said: You called a black man white trash for not taking your BS covid shot... But hey, if it helps your self esteem, cool... Maybe you need another booster to balance out your hormones... How many boosters are you up to now? For sanity’s sake, can we separate those opposed to the forced covid shots vs those opposed to the ***** measles vaccine? The latter reminds me of a meme I saw of a little girl asking her mom about her smallpox vaccine scar on her arm and inquiring why she didn’t have one herself. Her mom’s response, “because it worked.” I think most of us can agree that multiple rounds of Covid vaccines in order to keep one’s job was incorrect in hindsight (though some of us also refuse to blame the dEeP sTaTe and some major government conspiracy). So let’s agree that one was bad. But the new regime, led by a guy I wouldn’t take advice from how to help a common cold, questioning the necessity of the measles vaccine is brain-worm “take a selfie with a dead bear in Central Park” levels of insane. Most of us can separate the two as very different things. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 10 Posted August 10 5 minutes ago, stevestojan said: For sanity’s sake, can we separate those opposed to the forced covid shots vs those opposed to the ***** measles vaccine? The latter reminds me of a meme I saw of a little girl asking her mom about her smallpox vaccine scar on her arm and inquiring why she didn’t have one herself. Her mom’s response, “because it worked.” I think most of us can agree that multiple rounds of Covid vaccines in order to keep one’s job was incorrect in hindsight (though some of us also refuse to blame the dEeP sTaTe and some major government conspiracy). So let’s agree that one was bad. But the new regime, led by a guy I wouldn’t take advice from how to help a common cold, questioning the necessity of the measles vaccine is brain-worm “take a selfie with a dead bear in Central Park” levels of insane. Most of us can separate the two as very different things. even in 1940, measles killed far fewer Americans than did Covid. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/measles-cases-and-death-rate yet measles vax is appropriately required for enrollment in most elementary schools. Why covid vax? because it works. 1
4th&long Posted August 10 Posted August 10 1 hour ago, Wolfgang said: You called a black man white trash for not taking your BS covid shot... But hey, if it helps your self esteem, cool... Maybe you need another booster to balance out your hormones... How many boosters are you up to now? Keep talking. You just show what a idiot you are the more you talk. Like I know what color you are you stupid ass.
Wolfgang Posted August 10 Posted August 10 3 hours ago, 4th&long said: Keep talking. You just show what a idiot you are the more you talk. Like I know what color you are you stupid ass. Lol... Feel better now? Did you get that out of your system?
Wolfgang Posted August 11 Posted August 11 4 hours ago, stevestojan said: For sanity’s sake, can we separate those opposed to the forced covid shots vs those opposed to the ***** measles vaccine? The latter reminds me of a meme I saw of a little girl asking her mom about her smallpox vaccine scar on her arm and inquiring why she didn’t have one herself. Her mom’s response, “because it worked.” I think most of us can agree that multiple rounds of Covid vaccines in order to keep one’s job was incorrect in hindsight (though some of us also refuse to blame the dEeP sTaTe and some major government conspiracy). So let’s agree that one was bad. But the new regime, led by a guy I wouldn’t take advice from how to help a common cold, questioning the necessity of the measles vaccine is brain-worm “take a selfie with a dead bear in Central Park” levels of insane. Most of us can separate the two as very different things.
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