Derek Carr is retiring

[Doc Brown]

4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:

David Carr was much better than Derek Carr coming out .. and Derek was a 10-year starting quarterback

 

That's why circumstances is everything in the NFL.. the expansion franchise absolutely ruined David's career I think one of the worst lines in the NFL history

 

 he had a strong accurate arm, he could move, he had good size with a quick short release.. that Texans team was terrible and had one of the worst NFL lines ever assembled

 

Sam Bradford was another insanely talented quarterback who due to a lot of circumstances did not have a long great career .. but he was insanely talented , always hurt... And still getting traded for first round picks

 

bradford is wayyy better than a quarterback like Brock purdy..  purdy again is showing the NFL is all about situations 

 

He would probably be nothing much on 28 franchises 

 

But he went to the right circumstance with the right coaches and the right scheme

 

 

Us arguing about a QB selected 23 years ago is prime off-season.  LOL.  David Carr was never considered a slam dunk prospect.  He had a strong arm but only one year of high level play in college mostly against defenses.  It was considered a weak QB class and there were major concerns about his throwing release, holding onto the ball too long, and not going through his progressions quick enough.  The Texans did him no favors as you don't build from the outside in on offense as it was a weak line.  However, all the concerns coming out of college came to fruition in the NFL.  I said elite QB prospects can overcome a terrible situation.  Average NFL starting QB prospects are more reliant on the team and organization so they'll bust if drafted in the wrong spot.  David Carr was never more than a potential average starting QB IMO.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

16 hours ago, stuvian said:

 

I'll forgive any coach who didn't succeed with the Jets because they (and the Bears) are the kiss of death. I think Todd Bowles has done an admirable job in TB. Herm Edwards put up a respectable showing in KC post Jets as well.

 

Aaron Glenn has the makings of a good coach but putting your career in the hands of Justin Fields seems a high risk proposition. I'll bet that Sean Payton gets some trade value out of Zach Wilson. 

 

I agree with your point about different leadership styles suiting different situations. I was somewhat amazed and disappointed how quickly and badly Doug Pederson flamed out in Jacksonville. I thought he would do well with a young team and QB.

 

Being buddy buddy with all your players is smart when you win, and it doesn't look as good when you don't.