Is Cook worth it?

[Thurman#1]

15 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Not a single person has said that. Not sure what saying that accomplishes. 

 

 

Um, I think many have effectively said this. When you say that we have to get Cook back because he's really good, you're saying that price shouldn't be a factor.

 

My argument here points out what should be obvious but is being ignored by an awful lot of people and posts here that walk around with their fingers in their ears saying "Not listening," when you try to mention price. Many many many posts on here are trying to pretend that this is a yes/no argument, that yes we need to keep him no matter what, period.

 

This proves that there absolutely is a point at which he would not be worth it. Many want to ignore this because it's convenient to their narrative. There is absolutely a point at which we'd be paying too much. And frankly $15M is past that line for most on here, which is why money doesn't get mentioned in many of these posts that say, "Just get him."

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6 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Um, I think many have effectively said this. When you say that we have to get Cook back because he's really good, you're saying that price shouldn't be a factor.

 

My argument here points out what should be obvious but is being ignored by an awful lot of people and posts here that walk around with their fingers in their ears saying "Not listening," when you try to mention price. Many many many posts on here are trying to pretend that this is a yes/no argument, that yes we need to keep him no matter what, period.

 

This proves that there absolutely is a point at which he would not be worth it. Many want to ignore this because it's convenient to their narrative. There is absolutely a point at which we'd be paying too much. And frankly $15M is past that line for most on here, which is why money doesn't get mentioned in many of these posts that say, "Just get him."

I think $10M-$11M/year would put him in the top 7th-8th overall as far as the top RBs are concerned.. I would pay him at that price..

[Thurman#1]

15 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Again, currently his 4.9 ypc would place him in the top 10 in nfl history. In 2023, he was 6th in total yards from scrimmage.

 

 

is he Barkley or Henry? No. But he is only legit game breaker on this entire offense besides Allen. It is quite an assumption to assume Davis (who averaged a full yard less per carry when backups normally average more than the starters because they got against tired defenses) and Ty Johnson (there’s a reason he’s bounced around) can fill Cook’s shoes. He’s been a great draft pick no matter how some fans try to downplay his success. 

I don’t disagree but there’s some double standards. When we talked about Allen’s MVP case, everyone downplayed all the pieces around him. Now when it’s Cook, people love mentioning the o line. 
 

I would counter that Allen and Cook are helped a lot by the oline and each other. Additionally, I think our WRs hurt them both because teams don’t fear getting beat deep so they play the line closer than they should with a guy like Allen’s arm.

 

 

He has been a great draft pick. I don't think too many would argue. Worth $15M? Pay him what he wants? Yeah, no thanks. Not unless he plays a whole lot better this year anyway.

 

Well, yeah, 4.9 is very good for a career average. James hasn't been through a career yet. In career stats, things generally go down very significantly indeed by the end. 

 

6th in yards from scrimmage in 2023? Yup.

About 27th in yards from scrimmage in 2024? Yup.

Not even in the top 100 in 2002? Yeah.

 

And yeah people mention the OL when they talk about Cook. We've got a damn good OL. They mention the OL when they talk about Allen too. For good reason in both cases.

 

Cook will be here this year, as has been very obvious all along. Next year? Yeah, assuming he's gone, which I do, they'll bring in someone else, in the draft or as an FA, or both. And likely Davis will improve after his very good rookie year.

 

Again, I like him. If he'd sign for around $10 to $11M a year, I'd be very much in favor of bringing him back. Doesn't appear he will, though.

 

Give him, say $11M AAV and he'd be 7th highest in the league, behind Barkley, McCaffrey, Henry, Taylor, Kamara and Jacobs. IMO he does belong behind those guys, with the possible exception of post-injuries McCaffrey. That's about where he belongs, I say. 

 

 

15 hours ago, klos63 said:

Sorry, i can't easily dismiss 16 TDs like others can. 

You may legitimately have concerns about his value,  that's fair,  but honestly,  i think from most fans the reason for much of the criticism is because he posted on twitter a few months ago and no fan base gets more offended than the Bills.

 

 

Klos, I don't think many are dismissing it.

 

We're contextualizing it. That's different. And reasonable.

 

Again, two rushing TDs his first year, two his second year and sixteen his third and many are saying he's a 16 a year guy. He's not. He's a 16 in 2024 guy.

[bmur66]

Running backs often go downhill quickly and have shorter careers. Can’t blame the man for wanting to cash in now while he is hitting his prime. I just hope in the end he is reasonable and balances team needs with his own desires. If they want to win the big one they all have to give up some as many Bills players have shown they are willing to do.