Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 24 Posted August 24 20 minutes ago, JFKjr said: The side effect issues with GLP-1s are even more notable than those of the Covid vaccines. About 75 percent of people have to stop taking them by the two year mark (many stop much earlier) due to the bad side effects. But sure, link another study! why bother? you are anti science.
Wolfgang Posted August 24 Posted August 24 52 minutes ago, JFKjr said: The side effect issues with GLP-1s are even more notable than those of the Covid vaccines. About 75 percent of people have to stop taking them by the two year mark (many stop much earlier) due to the bad side effects. But sure, link another study! You're wasting your time... Some people can't conceive of life without drugs... To them, side effects are always a conspiracy theory... The life of a corporate lab rat isn't for me... 1
JFKjr Posted August 24 Posted August 24 3 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: why bother? you are anti science. The side effects aren't that "rare" if 75 percent of people are off them within two years. And half are off within one. Seems like YOU don't believe "the science."
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25 Posted August 25 16 hours ago, JFKjr said: The side effects aren't that "rare" if 75 percent of people are off them within two years. And half are off within one. Seems like YOU don't believe "the science." pay for access to the original article and tell me all about the rare (not relatively rare), You're posting the equivalent of the National Inquirer of medicine. here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2812192#google_vignette 1
Wolfgang Posted August 25 Posted August 25 10 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: pay for access to the original article and tell me all about the rare (not relatively rare), You're posting the equivalent of the National Inquirer of medicine. here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2812192#google_vignette
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) Here's an original, uncherry picked article by Scott Isaacs. He's a big fan of glp 1's: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/scott-isaacs-md-facp-face-ba16278_glp1-glp1ra-activity-7248689710997323776-Laeq "appetite regulation, influencing insulin secretion, insulin sensitivity, and gastric emptying. The therapeutic use of GLP-1RAs has evolved significantly, offering various formulations that provide different efficacy, routes of admin- istration, and flexibility in dosing. These agents reduce HbA1c levels, facilitate weight loss, and exhibit cardiovascular protective effects, making them an integral component of T2DM and obesity management." Edited August 25 by Joe Ferguson forever
JFKjr Posted August 25 Posted August 25 12 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: pay for access to the original article and tell me all about the rare (not relatively rare), You're posting the equivalent of the National Inquirer of medicine. here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/article-abstract/2812192#google_vignette Why are you so hot to trot for these dangerous drugs? Are you overweight yourself? Whether you take it depends on what rare side effects you're willing to risk. Blindness Is One Rare Ozempic Side Effect
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25 Posted August 25 11 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Why are you so hot to trot for these dangerous drugs? Are you overweight yourself? Whether you take it depends on what rare side effects you're willing to risk. Blindness Is One Rare Ozempic Side Effect For the same reasons Dr Scott Isaacs is. They are revolutionary drugs. The benefits far outweigh the risks for most people. All drugs have adverse effects. tylenol can cause liver failure. Aspirin can cause major bleeds. They're still available OTC while glp 1's are carefully supervised by doctors. re the discontinuation rate, most of it is due to cost https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/high-costs-likely-lead-early-semaglutide-discontinuation-2025a1000h5s stop reading cartoon articles and read the original papers....
T master Posted August 25 Posted August 25 On 2/15/2025 at 6:48 AM, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/trumps-shock-and-awe-month-7a9 The words “shock and awe” describe the first month of the second Trump administration pretty well, it seems to me. It’s been a blitzkrieg of executive orders, mass firings, violations of laws and norms, wanton cruelty for the sick, destitute, and hungry, and performative administrative chaos as far as the eye can see — all designed to paralyze and stun what’s left of the opposition. And front and center: a drug-fueled, sleep-addled billionaire, commandeering the Oval Office, offering half-baked political theories, threatening judges with impeachment, tweeting at the pace of an adderall-addicted gamer, and holding press conferences with a toddler on his shoulders, where he tells the world he cannot be trusted to tell the truth. I guess there are some people who find all this deeply impressive. I’m sorry to say that, despite agreeing with some of Trump’s policy planks, I don’t. Which brings me back to “shock and awe.” You may recall those words were also once used by a previous administration, huffing its own fumes, bent on breaking norms and boldly declaring a new era. We know now, of course, how the Iraq War ended. And it’s beginning to look as if Trump 2.0 will have something like the same result. Yah exactly jack ass he's done nothing at all for the country like the previous POS that was in office . In just a short 8 months he's shut down the border and rounded up & deported a lot of the illegal thugs that your guy allowed in in history record breaking amounts during his time in office, Is curbing crime in major cities which the F cards like your self rail against and would rather have the crime than safe streets in DC and other places . Has slowed or put a end to a nuclear threat from Iran and put sanctions back in place with a FA & FO attitude to make the entire globe a safer place for every one with a power through strength initiative and has started the process of bringing those involved in the Ukraine war to the table for some kind of beginning in peace talks unlike Biden just continually funneling money to his guys . Has put people in place in organizations to bring transparency to all Americans showing that the Russian collusion thing was nothing but a load of complete BS implemented by another one of your choices both in Obama & Hillary . Has made Billions of dollars in trade agreements for the country by utilizing tariffs to level the playing field economically and has rooted out some fraudulent & absolutely ridiculous gov't spending in USAID by putting people in place to look closely at sending money to Africa for research of trans operations and stopped US gov't funding in Medicaid/medicare for trans operations . Also has drawn the line as it should be as to what is a male & what is a female as god/biology & common sense, not man intended it and not what we as individual people have decided with their own personal decisions or opinions how it should be . But then the previous POTUS did so much didn't he ? He allowed historical illegal immigration and did absolutely NOTHING at all to stop it but encouraged it, allowed the Ukraine conflict to continue by throwing money at it and showing just how weak he was as the president and he also let Iran run with their nuclear program, plus allowing DEI hires in gov't and other places rather than hiring those best for those positions . Your guy also didn't stand on males being allowed in female sports and ON & On & On .. But you keep spreading your BS you F tard !!! You and all the other lib tards continue to have diarrhea of the mouth because any one with a shred of common sense can se straight through yawls BS !! This guy has done more in 8 months to help the country to bring it back to what the country was & should be than any of the previous have done because he has a set of morals and balls big enough to actually do what needs to be done instead of cower or pander to all the sensitive groups that he could possibly get votes from to keep the DC agenda rolling !! 1
Wolfgang Posted August 25 Posted August 25 39 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Why are you so hot to trot for these dangerous drugs? Are you overweight yourself? Whether you take it depends on what rare side effects you're willing to risk. Blindness Is One Rare Ozempic Side Effect The man can't live without expensive drugs... Why live a life of discipline when you can just take drugs to try and compensate? Its a win win when your investment portfolio depends on that dynamic... Keeping your A1c levels below 5 is easy through diet alone... But why do that when you can get an injection covered by an insurance company? You can then keep eating and drinking all the trash food your heart desires... Better him than me lol... 1
T master Posted August 25 Posted August 25 21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: why bother? you are anti science. Science wouldn't be bad if the gov't along with big Pharma didn't want to have a pill for every single freakin thing that comes along but in America everything is cured by a pill !! They won't even consider any type of natural fix by boosting your bodies own immunity to fix a problem alls they care about is MAKING MO MONEY . Lets make another pill or another injectable shot to lose weight heaven for bid you should exercise or take a vitamin and covid helped prove that now that we can look back on that bunch of BS !!! And it's all at our expense . If they really gave a S**T they would out law Glyphosate and many other things that cause cancer and other such disease but they would rather pay out Billions in law suits that stop things at the root cause of the problem because of the amounts of money that can be made . And if we think in any way that the EPA & FDA aren't a part of keeping this ball rolling to make it sick care instead of Health care your more than foolish ... 1 1
JFKjr Posted August 25 Posted August 25 1 hour ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: For the same reasons Dr Scott Isaacs is. They are revolutionary drugs. The benefits far outweigh the risks for most people. All drugs have adverse effects. tylenol can cause liver failure. Aspirin can cause major bleeds. They're still available OTC while glp 1's are carefully supervised by doctors. re the discontinuation rate, most of it is due to cost https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/high-costs-likely-lead-early-semaglutide-discontinuation-2025a1000h5s stop reading cartoon articles and read the original papers.... Big Pharma funds so much of advertising, the FDA, academic RESEARCH (along with Big Agra) that it becomes very difficult to trust what they say. There are billions (if not trillions) riding on whether there will be healthcare/government funding of GLP-1s for "weight loss." Meanwhile people are risking their health for a short-term benefit. And if most people cannot continue paying for the drug, or go off it due to unpleasant side effects, then the short-term weight loss is pointless. •In early 2023, a private conference with pharmaceutical industry leaders and investors highlighted anti-obesity and Alzheimer’s drugs as the next big money-makers and had the FDA head as its keynote speaker. •Since then, the FDA has taken questionable steps to promote these drugs, particularly Ozempic, an anti-obesity medication. There's been a massive push to get everyone, including children, on Ozempic, using shockingly aggressive marketing tactics. •This rush is eerily similar to the fen-phen craze, a temporary weight loss drug later pulled from the market for causing severe heart and lung issues. •Worse, Ozempic comes with serious side effects, including paralyzing the digestive tract. This article will address the above controversy and explore the common causes of obesity, including those rarely discussed. The Great Ozempic Hustle
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25 Posted August 25 (edited) 30 minutes ago, JFKjr said: Big Pharma funds so much of advertising, the FDA, academic RESEARCH (along with Big Agra) that it becomes very difficult to trust what they say. There are billions (if not trillions) riding on whether there will be healthcare/government funding of GLP-1s for "weight loss." Meanwhile people are risking their health for a short-term benefit. And if most people cannot continue paying for the drug, or go off it due to unpleasant side effects, then the short-term weight loss is pointless. •In early 2023, a private conference with pharmaceutical industry leaders and investors highlighted anti-obesity and Alzheimer’s drugs as the next big money-makers and had the FDA head as its keynote speaker. •Since then, the FDA has taken questionable steps to promote these drugs, particularly Ozempic, an anti-obesity medication. There's been a massive push to get everyone, including children, on Ozempic, using shockingly aggressive marketing tactics. •This rush is eerily similar to the fen-phen craze, a temporary weight loss drug later pulled from the market for causing severe heart and lung issues. •Worse, Ozempic comes with serious side effects, including paralyzing the digestive tract. This article will address the above controversy and explore the common causes of obesity, including those rarely discussed. The Great Ozempic Hustle The author is "a midwestern doctor". Awesome! Could have a PhD in astronomy or have graduated Grenada med school... Two things can be true. Drug companies want to make money. And the drugs they produce can be life saving or drastically improving. Decent treatment for alzheimers is way overdue. Could save billions on nursing home care (which is losing capacity due to shipping off so many immigrant workers). Everyone is not out to get you. but please don't take any life saving drugs. We'll all be better off. Edited August 25 by Joe Ferguson forever 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 25 Posted August 25 1 hour ago, T master said: Science wouldn't be bad if the gov't along with big Pharma didn't want to have a pill for every single freakin thing that comes along but in America everything is cured by a pill !! They won't even consider any type of natural fix by boosting your bodies own immunity to fix a problem alls they care about is MAKING MO MONEY . Lets make another pill or another injectable shot to lose weight heaven for bid you should exercise or take a vitamin and covid helped prove that now that we can look back on that bunch of BS !!! And it's all at our expense . If they really gave a S**T they would out law Glyphosate and many other things that cause cancer and other such disease but they would rather pay out Billions in law suits that stop things at the root cause of the problem because of the amounts of money that can be made . And if we think in any way that the EPA & FDA aren't a part of keeping this ball rolling to make it sick care instead of Health care your more than foolish ... same to you. don't take any drugs manufactured by big pharmaceutical companies. remove your own gallbladder. don't take any vaccines. not sure how roundup got in here but commercially available product no longer contains glyphosate...it also doesn't kill weeds well. 1
T master Posted August 25 Posted August 25 17 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said: same to you. don't take any drugs manufactured by big pharmaceutical companies. remove your own gallbladder. don't take any vaccines. not sure how roundup got in here but commercially available product no longer contains glyphosate...it also doesn't kill weeds well. I haven't had any vaccines since my last tetaness shot I don't do flu shots none of them as far as removing. my own gal bladder WTF does that have to do with my reply ! And I'll bet Glyphosate is still in Round up and many weed killers but I will get back to you on that next time I go to HD I'll read the ingredients . If it isn't on there you can bet there is something very close to the exact same thing . I am going to be 64 this year and glory to god I'm not on any meds ! And when all that about the covid vaccine came out I went with the alternative that NONE of those pushing the vaccine would tell you and that was boosting my own immune system with vitamins and such before jumping on the band wagon of drinking the kool aid like you and I guess many others . I still see believers walking around with masks OUT SIDE with no one around or in a car all by them selves they got you all believing the BS first and fore most instead of doing your own research and depending on what god gave us until other proof is made known . But maybe that's just me ... 1
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted August 31 Posted August 31 On 8/25/2025 at 9:43 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said: Two things can be true. 1
SectionC3 Posted September 1 Posted September 1 On 8/25/2025 at 9:17 AM, T master said: Yah exactly jack ass he's done nothing at all for the country like the previous POS that was in office . In just a short 8 months he's shut down the border and rounded up & deported a lot of the illegal thugs that your guy allowed in in history record breaking amounts during his time in office, Is curbing crime in major cities which the F cards like your self rail against and would rather have the crime than safe streets in DC and other places . Has slowed or put a end to a nuclear threat from Iran and put sanctions back in place with a FA & FO attitude to make the entire globe a safer place for every one with a power through strength initiative and has started the process of bringing those involved in the Ukraine war to the table for some kind of beginning in peace talks unlike Biden just continually funneling money to his guys . Has put people in place in organizations to bring transparency to all Americans showing that the Russian collusion thing was nothing but a load of complete BS implemented by another one of your choices both in Obama & Hillary . Has made Billions of dollars in trade agreements for the country by utilizing tariffs to level the playing field economically and has rooted out some fraudulent & absolutely ridiculous gov't spending in USAID by putting people in place to look closely at sending money to Africa for research of trans operations and stopped US gov't funding in Medicaid/medicare for trans operations . Also has drawn the line as it should be as to what is a male & what is a female as god/biology & common sense, not man intended it and not what we as individual people have decided with their own personal decisions or opinions how it should be . But then the previous POTUS did so much didn't he ? He allowed historical illegal immigration and did absolutely NOTHING at all to stop it but encouraged it, allowed the Ukraine conflict to continue by throwing money at it and showing just how weak he was as the president and he also let Iran run with their nuclear program, plus allowing DEI hires in gov't and other places rather than hiring those best for those positions . Your guy also didn't stand on males being allowed in female sports and ON & On & On .. But you keep spreading your BS you F tard !!! You and all the other lib tards continue to have diarrhea of the mouth because any one with a shred of common sense can se straight through yawls BS !! This guy has done more in 8 months to help the country to bring it back to what the country was & should be than any of the previous have done because he has a set of morals and balls big enough to actually do what needs to be done instead of cower or pander to all the sensitive groups that he could possibly get votes from to keep the DC agenda rolling !! 1.Hoax. Ask people in Kyiv about that. 2. Epstein files. 3. Tariffs are taxes. I didn't know you support raising taxes on the middle class and giving huge tax breaks to the rich. 4. Hoax. Obviously. Epstein, hookers, lies, alligator camps, pick your reason. You're precisely the type of dumb voter he loves. The economy is worse, but the libs have been owned on fringe issues that have no meaningful impact on improving the lives of the middle class. Well done. 1
Wolfgang Posted September 1 Posted September 1 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: 1.Hoax. Ask people in Kyiv about that. 2. Epstein files. 3. Tariffs are taxes. I didn't know you support raising taxes on the middle class and giving huge tax breaks to the rich. 4. Hoax. Obviously. Epstein, hookers, lies, alligator camps, pick your reason. You're precisely the type of dumb voter he loves. The economy is worse, but the libs have been owned on fringe issues that have no meaningful impact on improving the lives of the middle class. Well done.
JFKjr Posted September 1 Posted September 1 On 8/25/2025 at 10:43 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said: The author is "a midwestern doctor". Awesome! Could have a PhD in astronomy or have graduated Grenada med school... Two things can be true. Drug companies want to make money. And the drugs they produce can be life saving or drastically improving. Decent treatment for alzheimers is way overdue. Could save billions on nursing home care (which is losing capacity due to shipping off so many immigrant workers). Everyone is not out to get you. but please don't take any life saving drugs. We'll all be better off. Doesn't bother me if you take mRNA shots. You do you.
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