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Miami home field sun advantage and why this is wrong on so many levels


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When we play Miami in December we will provide heaters on their sideline because we will use them too.   We will not cheat during the game.  

 

We will beat the hell out of them on the field.

 

We should turn the furnace off in their locker room to start the third quarter, let the room get cold.  In addition, turn off the hot water heater to their showers too.   None of this affects the game.  

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On 9/30/2022 at 8:46 PM, Mr. WEO said:


they think they are safe.  You say they are wrong.

 

summed for you

 

Given objective measurements like WBGT and the whole IH science/OSHA guidance around avoiding heat stress illness and death in the workplace, it's kinda clear it's more than a "they think....you say" issue.

 

Football players are known to be  LETSGO! types who have long training since HS to go play hard in "whatever" conditions. 

 

Objectively, the conditions in Hard Rock Stadium on a sunny day in September are dangerous heat stress conditions for unacclimatized workers wearing thick protective clothing and undergoing maximal physical exertion in the absence of rest periods in shade.

 

Bills game there last season was partly cloudy and light rain.  Similar 2020.

 

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2 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Given objective measurements like WBGT and the whole IH science/OSHA guidance around avoiding heat stress illness and death in the workplace, it's kinda clear it's more than a "they think....you say" issue.

 

Football players are known to be  LETSGO! types who have long training since HS to go play hard in "whatever" conditions. 

 

Objectively, the conditions in Hard Rock Stadium on a sunny day in September are dangerous heat stress conditions for unacclimatized workers wearing thick protective clothing and undergoing maximal physical exertion in the absence of rest periods in shade.

 

Bills game there last season was partly cloudy and light rain.  Similar 2020.

 

 

 

This again?

 

Can you show me anything where the NFL, it players, its owners or its players union have declared 1 pm games in Miami in September dangerously hot?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

This again?

 

Can you show me anything where the NFL, it players, its owners or its players union have declared 1 pm games in Miami in September dangerously hot?

 

 

 

You know damn well most are afraid to speak up, and the NFL is a reactionary league.  They'll wait for someone to die on the field to immediately make a change, kind of like with Tua.

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1 hour ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

You know damn well most are afraid to speak up, and the NFL is a reactionary league.  They'll wait for someone to die on the field to immediately make a change, kind of like with Tua.

 

 

The NFL is too afraid?  The owners?  Is the NFLPA too afraid to speak up too?  Really--this is your position?

 

The players are loudly crying about playing on the most technically advanced artificial turf surfaces---too dangerous!  It's too haaaaaaaard!  The NFLPA took down the Dolphins independent neurologist (you know, with Tua, who's not dead) right quick----but everyone is just too damn "afraid" to say this heat is dangerous?

 

You must be joking right?

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For some reason I just found this thread and wanted to share my experience. 

 

I grew up in FL; I know heat and humidity. I went to University of Miami for undergrad, I have been at Hardrock many, many times. 

 

I was at the game last week, seated on Visitor side, 30 yard line, in the sun the entire game. 

 

It was absolutely unbearable being in the sun. Heat is one thing, and everyone in the stadium feels heat, but to be in the sun is an entirely different experience. I would estimate the "feel" temperature of being in the sun was probably 20 degrees or more higher compared to the shaded portions of the stadium. There was zero cloud cover the entire game.

 

I know people want to downplay the effects of the stadium design, but the reality is that it Definitely makes a huge difference to have one team in the sun and the other in the shade. Also, this is the tropics... the sun is stronger than in NY or higher latitudes due to the angle of being closer to the equator. Buffalo brought out these dinky little PVC shades, but those only covered a small area of the bench. Players standing on the sidelines received no benefit. In years prior there was cloud cover which provided relief. The NFL absolutely needs to address this issue. If it makes no difference why doesn't Miami have their bench in sun? It's because it does make a difference. 

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4 hours ago, Bob in STL said:

We should turn the furnace off in their locker room to start the third quarter, let the room get cold.  In addition, turn off the hot water heater to their showers too.   None of this affects the game.  

 

Nah, just add these to the showers in the locker room.

 

Coin operated shower

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On 9/30/2022 at 6:13 PM, NewEra said:

It’s unreal.  This thread showed me that he’s 💯 pure troll.  After all these years I’ve finally added him to ignore.  No need to have discussion with someone that is only here to antagonize everyone.

 

As I’ve said many times:  “DON’T FEED THE TROLLS!!!”   You feed them responses and they keep coming back.

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