d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 ....and in your professional assessment from having broken done film and studying Demulling, he is that much better than what we have on our cuurent roster at 2 million plus a year? By the way do you have a list of the probable June 1st cuts in your hand as well? Hmmmmmmm. 277764[/snapback] yes, he is that much better.......he's a very good LG, which is more then anyone can say about gandy/tucker/smith........the bills liked him, the bills thought he was better, and the bills didn't get the job done........ no one cut in june will measure up to demulling......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 "The contract is believed to be a two-year deal worth $4.45 million." http://www.freep.com/sports/lions/lions17e_20050317.htm 2.2M a year for a solid starting guard is money well spent and looks like a bargain after the contract that villy got..........buffalo should have landed this guy and it was a mistake to not address the glaring hole at LG with the best option available.........now buffalo will be forced to look to cheaper, 2nd rate options........ the lions didn't overpay like many on this board said they would.........they gave him a fair deal and got their man.......the bills lowballed and ended up with nothing........bad move, but i don't expect many here on this board to admit it......... 277686[/snapback] Have you ever seen him play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 I got a question. I admit, I never heard of the guy before free agency. If this guy is SO GOOD, why were the Bills, Lions, & Ravens (who pretty quickly removed themselves from the running) the only teams that were trying to sign the guy? 277767[/snapback] so you think the bills made a mistake by looking at him at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 i disagree with not signing demulling.....spin it any way you want, but i find it amazing that so many on this board support this non-move by TD.......i think he screwed up here, but you guys are so blinded in defending him that you won't even consider that maybe he didn't make the right move....... 277735[/snapback] You disagree if the Bills don't sign ANY big name that comes up. Thankfully, you're not signing the contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 yes, he is that much better.......he's a very good LG, which is more then anyone can say about gandy/tucker/smith........the bills liked him, the bills thought he was better, and the bills didn't get the job done........ 277773[/snapback] The Bills didn't get the job done? Did they offer him a contract? How much was it for? How long was it for. Are you holding out on us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 You disagree if the Bills don't sign ANY big name that comes up. Thankfully, you're not signing the contracts. 277779[/snapback] since when is kendrick vincent a big name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 The Bills didn't get the job done? Did they offer him a contract? How much was it for? How long was it for. Are you holding out on us? 277781[/snapback] obviously it wasn't good enough to get him in here.......oh, but that's right, he liked the detriot school systems more.........the friendly streets.......the happy people.........wasn't anything to do with TD's lowball style.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 since when is kendrick vincent a big name? 277786[/snapback] To YOU he was. Thus your eternal kvetching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 so you think the bills made a mistake by looking at him at all? 277776[/snapback] No, I think the Bills should look at every OL available, but I don't think the season rides on getting Demulling signed. Who's to say Ross Tucker can't become a quality OG like Demulling. There's still quality guys out there, but our LG could already be on the roster. And who knows, maybe the guy really wanted to play for Detroit, and was playing the Bills in order to get more $ where he really wanted to play. He may have had no intention of ever signing with Buffalo regardless of the contract offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 obviously it wasn't good enough to get him in here.......oh, but that's right, he liked the detriot school systems more.........the friendly streets.......the happy people.........wasn't anything to do with TD's lowball style.......... 277789[/snapback] I'm waiting on that contract information. Are you going to keep avoiding it or admit you just don't know? I'm calling you out, man. If you can't come up with facts, you might want to hold your tongue until you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 I'm waiting on that contract information. Are you going to keep avoiding it or admit you just don't know? I'm calling you out, man. If you can't come up with facts, you might want to hold your tongue until you can. 277794[/snapback] Good luck with that. d seems to have a one-track mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 To YOU he was. Thus your eternal kvetching. 277790[/snapback] your not making any sense.........he would have been an upgrade to the LG position, just like demulling would have been an upgrade.........they both came at very reasonable contracts and i would have been singing TD's praises if he landed either.........he didn't, so i'm calling him out.........this has nothing to do with big names........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 Good luck with that. d seems to have a one-track mind. 277795[/snapback] And that would be: "Donahoe sucks!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachChuckDickerson Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 yes, he is that much better.......he's a very good LG, which is more then anyone can say about gandy/tucker/smith........the bills liked him, the bills thought he was better, and the bills didn't get the job done........ no one cut in june will measure up to demulling......... 277773[/snapback] LOL! Can I quote you on that? A 5th year pro who has started one full season is worth 2 million plus? Brilliant!! Please forward a copy of your resume to 1 Bills Drive pronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 I'm waiting on that contract information. Are you going to keep avoiding it or admit you just don't know? I'm calling you out, man. If you can't come up with facts, you might want to hold your tongue until you can. 277794[/snapback] are you expecting TD to state what his offer was in public? your not really that slow, are you? hint -- it was a less appealing contract then what the lions offered........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 No, I think the Bills should look at every OL available, but I don't think the season rides on getting Demulling signed. Who's to say Ross Tucker can't become a quality OG like Demulling. There's still quality guys out there, but our LG could already be on the roster. And who knows, maybe the guy really wanted to play for Detroit, and was playing the Bills in order to get more $ where he really wanted to play. He may have had no intention of ever signing with Buffalo regardless of the contract offer. 277793[/snapback] Look at it this way, he left the Colts to play for the Lions. That alone tells you he was only after the payday. Still, what gets me, is all these people crying about this and no one can make any kind of an evaluation of his game, only that he is 'good'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 And that would be: "Donahoe sucks!" 277798[/snapback] again, if TD signed dumulling to the deal the lions gave him, i would be singing his praises........i would have been the first one on this board saying what a great move it was (and you'd all be agreeing with me then, just because TD did it)...........this has nothing to with an agenda.........if he got him at that price i would have loved the move, and so would all have you.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted March 17, 2005 Author Share Posted March 17, 2005 LOL! Can I quote you on that? A 5th year pro who has started one full season is worth 2 million plus? Brilliant!! Please forward a copy of your resume to 1 Bills Drive pronto. 277800[/snapback] jeez, do some research........how can you add anything to this conversation without knowing anything about him? he's started the past 3 seasons in indy........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobblehead Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 DeMulling is 304 pounds and not known for exceptional run blocking. TD has stated (and passed on) lineman in the past for a lack of size, not always, mind you, but its on public record that Buffalo prefers larger linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted March 17, 2005 Share Posted March 17, 2005 are you expecting TD to state what his offer was in public? your not really that slow, are you? hint -- it was a less appealing contract then what the lions offered........ 277802[/snapback] Bwaaa! You don't even know if he was offered a contract, and you're too ashamed to admit it! Either that or it doesn't fit your agenda. Read the board rules. Crusading = bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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