JP-era Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 IMO, We simply do not have a solid double digit sack DE on our squad. Schobel is the next Phil Hansen, NOT Bruce Smith. We still could use a big time pass rusher. Miami is desperate for a RB. If so many of you are so sour on Henry why not trade him to the fish? Here is the rumor floating about Jason: Despite the statement released by coach Nick Saban this week that the Miami Dolphins neither plan to trade Jason Taylor nor move him to linebacker, don't pencil the veteran defensive end into the Dolphins' opening day lineup just yet. Sources within the organization contend that the Dolphins might listen if the right offer for Taylor came along. One reason: Some staffers feel that Taylor is an undisciplined defender at times, a player who freelances in search of the sack, a guy who doesn't take on blockers very well. They love his upfield speed but are wary, they say, of Taylor's alleged habit of getting out of position. We always felt that Taylor, despite his lack of bulk, played the run pretty well. Then again, our opinion really doesn't count, does it? And remember this: Before owner Wayne Huizenga hired Saban, the typically low-key Taylor was one of the players who publicly questioned the wisdom of hiring the former LSU coach. In any case, don't close the door on a possible trade of Taylor just yet. Jason Taylor adds a solid double digit sack guy to our young D-line. Henry goes to the fish and with our speedy LB's and big Sam, I dont see him having that much success against us. Problem is, it may take more than Henry to get Taylor, how about Henry plus Denney or Henry plus our 4th rounder. I would still do it. We really havent had a bigtime pass rusher and a guy like Taylor would keep Tom Brady at bay and could be the difference in games against them. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 1. Schoebel was just resigned to a multi-year contract. 2. Schoebel has performed at a level almost equal to that of Taylor. 3. Denney is emerging as a solid LDE. 4. Taylor is too light to play LDE on a regular basis. So in a word "NO". We don't need this guy on our team, we have other areas that need to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frez Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 You'd have to be on crack to make that deal. Miami would NEVER EVER do that. You better take a close look at Henry and see what he's really worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 You'd have to be on crack to make that deal. Miami would NEVER EVER do that. You better take a close look at Henry and see what he's really worth. 272243[/snapback] you and Mike dont seem to agree. And the crack comment is uneccessary. You never know what can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalo mike Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 1. Schoebel was just resigned to a multi-year contract. 2. Schoebel has performed at a level almost equal to that of Taylor. 3. Denney is emerging as a solid LDE. 4. Taylor is too light to play LDE on a regular basis. So in a word "NO". We don't need this guy on our team, we have other areas that need to be addressed. 272242[/snapback] With all due respect Mike- WHAT!!! A player with 80 sacks is too light to play DE? This is not as absurd as it sounds, something is up with Miami and Taylor. He is a proto-type end, not a linebacker. I would jump to extremes to have this guy on our squad. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?statsId=3968 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Dont be surprised if the Colts and Fins dont make some kind of deal for Taylor and The "Edge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 you and Mike dont seem to agree. And the crack comment is uneccessary. You never know what can be done. Yeah, so? Get thicker skin This would NOT get done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 With all due respect Mike- WHAT!!! A player with 80 sacks is too light to play DE?This is not as absurd as it sounds, something is up with Miami and Taylor. He is a proto-type end, not a linebacker. I would jump to extremes to have this guy on our squad. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/stats?statsId=3968 272248[/snapback] I didn't say he was too light to play DE, I said he was too light to play LDE on a regular basis. Taylor is a 255lb speed rusher, I think he'd struggle if he was moved to LDE on a regular basis. He's also about 20lbs too light to be a proto-type anything. The point is moot, there is no way, no how the Dolphins are contemplating trading Taylor for Henry. Even they aren't that stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I didn't say he was too light to play DE, I said he was too light to play LDE on a regular basis. Taylor is a 255lb speed rusher, I think he'd struggle if he was moved to LDE on a regular basis. He's also about 20lbs too light to be a proto-type anything. The point is moot, there is no way, no how the Dolphins are contemplating trading Taylor for Henry. Even they aren't that stupid. 272268[/snapback] Taylor is about 5 lbs lighter than Ogunleye was at LDE for the Dolphins. You remember him, right? Mike Williams sure does, as do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChasBB Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 you and Mike dont seem to agree. And the crack comment is uneccessary. You never know what can be done. 272247[/snapback] Given that most everyone in Miami *is* on crack, this deal could happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandius Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 in order to not make stupid trade proposals, put yourself in the other team's shoe. imagine that you have Jason Taylor on your team... he's one of the few great pass rushers in the league... now some team comes along and offers you Travis Henry and a 4th rounder for him... he's just a running back, this draft is deep on RB's... would you make this deal? of course not... you would laugh them off the phone or out the door. then why are we even discussing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 If not for the cap hit, I'd trade Henry & Schobel for Taylor in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 in order to not make stupid trade proposals, put yourself in the other team's shoe. imagine that you have Jason Taylor on your team... he's one of the few great pass rushers in the league... now some team comes along and offers you Travis Henry and a 4th rounder for him... he's just a running back, this draft is deep on RB's... would you make this deal? of course not... you would laugh them off the phone or out the door. then why are we even discussing this? 272324[/snapback] In the new world of TSW instead of flaming away with.... "I hate stupid trade proposals that don't make any sense and would not happen in a million years" we now say... "that's a very interesting proposal that Miami would be crazy not to be interested in. I hope they read TSW so they can better understand what a good deal this would be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seadog Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 Guess what he's too light to play defensive end numb nuts. The only thing Taylor can do is rush the passer. He has very few tackels if you check his stats. Why do think the fins signed Kevin Carter and Vonnie Holiday?, because Taylor will be swithced to linebacker or be cut. That's right cut, He' too small against the run. No way would i trade Henry for Taylor no value for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 Yeah, so? Get thicker skin This would NOT get done 272266[/snapback] Point is your, absolute type comments arent quite absolute Dont need a thicker skin, you need to observe the rules Again, you have no clue (neither do I) what can and cant get done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownBillsFan Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 In the new world of TSW instead of flaming away with.... "I hate stupid trade proposals that don't make any sense and would not happen in a million years" we now say... "that's a very interesting proposal that Miami would be crazy not to be interested. I hope they read TSW so they can better understand what a good deal this would be." 272331[/snapback] WAAAAAAYYYYYY too funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 in order to not make stupid trade proposals, put yourself in the other team's shoe. imagine that you have Jason Taylor on your team... he's one of the few great pass rushers in the league... now some team comes along and offers you Travis Henry and a 4th rounder for him... he's just a running back, this draft is deep on RB's... would you make this deal? of course not... you would laugh them off the phone or out the door. then why are we even discussing this? 272324[/snapback] I personally agree and would be willing to part with Henry a 3rd and 5th, or even just a 2nd to get him. However, if I were to write that Henry plus our 2nd for Taylor, I would have been flamed even worse than I was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP-era Posted March 12, 2005 Author Share Posted March 12, 2005 Guess what he's too light to play defensive end numb nuts. The only thing Taylor can do is rush the passer. He has very few tackels if you check his stats. Why do think the fins signed Kevin Carter and Vonnie Holiday?, because Taylor will be swithced to linebacker or be cut. That's right cut, He' too small against the run. No way would i trade Henry for Taylor no value for us. 272334[/snapback] Obviously you either dont understand the rules around here or hate this post so much that you are sending it to the deleted pile with a crack like "numb nuts". Grow up, or get out! Theres no place for cracks like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R. Rich Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 I hope seadog doesn't hate that post. You shouldn't hate, seadog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 12, 2005 Share Posted March 12, 2005 if I were to write that Henry plus our 2nd for Taylor, I would have been flamed even worse than I was. 272343[/snapback] Only because Henry and our #2 isn't close to what Taylor's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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