jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Best is relative. What do you think he'd cost to come here? Let's hear it. I am not in a position to even guess nor have I ever stated I did . You seem to be the guy here with all the answers and probably have a number in mind so what is it? Let's hear it? Being on the chatbox you think we overpaid for a few contracts (And I agree) what do you think the Bills premium will be? So you are saying Bills will not be forced to overpay for Romo here but are on the chat stating they overpaid previously. What makes this different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I am not in a position to even guess nor have I ever stated I did . You seem to be the guy here with all the answers and probably have a number in mind so what is it? Let's hear it? Being on the chatbox you think we overpaid for a few contracts (And I agree) what do you think the Bills premium will be? So you are saying Bills will not be forced to overpay for Romo here but are on the chat stating they overpaid previously. What makes this different? So what was your argument about Romo's numbers even about, if you cannot even hazard a guess at a rough estimate of what he'd cost? If Houston is strapped for cash and other teams stay away for the reasons you suggest, what do you think his cap number would be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BmarvB Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 He'd fit in as a experienced #2 behind TT (keep him!) until Cardale is ready to take the spot from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 So what was your argument about Romo's numbers even about, if you cannot even hazard a guess at a rough estimate of what he'd cost? If Houston is strapped for cash and other teams stay away for the reasons you suggest, what do you think his cap number would be? Let me ask you a question. You are on chat stating we pay a premium for players and are on this thread stating we won't pay a premium for Romo? Can you even align your own argument.. What makes Buffalo and it's weather so attractive to an aging injured QB? Again I ask since you know it all what number do you think gets him here and I'll go you one further do you think he comes here? If so what are you willing to risk for someone taking the other side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Let me ask you a question. You are on chat stating we pay a premium for players and are on this thread stating we won't pay a premium for Romo? Can you even align your own argument.. What makes Buffalo and it's weather so attractive to an aging injured QB? Again I ask since you know it all what number do you think gets him here and I'll go you one further do you think he comes here? If so what are you willing to risk for someone taking the other side? What? I can see Romo getting a 2-3 year deal with the first 2 guaranteed at $18-20M per Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 What? I can see Romo getting a 2-3 year deal with the first 2 guaranteed at $18-20M per And you think that risk is ok for a guy who hasn't played but a handful of games in 2 years? You also think that a guy with his history of injuries and playing his whole career in good weather and desire to show the Cowboys they were wrong about him would come to a Cold weather team that hasn't made the playoffs in 16 years whose main problem is their defense? Again I ask what do you rate the chances he comes to Buffalo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) And you think that risk is ok for a guy who hasn't played but a handful of games in 2 years? You also think that a guy with his history of injuries and playing his whole career in good weather and desire to show the Cowboys they were wrong about him would come to a Cold weather team that hasn't made the playoffs in 16 years whose main problem is their defense? Again I ask what do you rate the chances he comes to Buffalo? Yes. Yes. Pretty good. You could probably build in escalators based on games played and such. Edited February 9, 2017 by FireChan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yes. Yes. Pretty good. You could probably build in escalators based on games played and such. If you want him to go to Buffalo you can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yes. Yes. Pretty good. You could probably build in escalators based on games played and such. Romo with McCoy and Gilleslie = ooooooooh weeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Yes. Yes. Pretty good. You could probably build in escalators based on games played and such. You are too funny and with zero self awareness to boot. Give me a percentage not the usual non committal answer. If he does come here though I will certainly be rooting for him to bring this team to the playoffs. Your body of work here is pretty clear me if we don't change QB's you won't be rooting for TT the same way eh Bills fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 You are too funny and with zero self awareness to boot. Give me a percentage not the usual non committal answer. If he does come here though I will certainly be rooting for him to bring this team to the playoffs. Your body of work here is pretty clear me if we don't change QB's you won't be rooting for TT the same way eh Bills fan? A percentage of what? I root every Bill to be the best ever. Nice pivot, clown car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 A percentage of what? I root every Bill to be the best ever. Nice pivot, clown car. Right you were rooting Tyrod last season... Oh snowflake your game is so transparent. When you don't want to respond to a question , you respond with a question. Again and I really can't make this any clearer. What percentage do you put on Romo becoming a Bill next year ? As if you didn't understand that the last time. Let's see if you can respond without an insult or asking another question to avoid what is asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Right you were rooting Tyrod last season... Oh snowflake your game is so transparent. When you don't want to respond to a question , you respond with a question. Again and I really can't make this any clearer. What percentage do you put on Romo becoming a Bill next year ? As if you didn't understand that the last time. Let's see if you can respond without an insult or asking another question to avoid what is asked. It depends on what they offer. If they low ball him, their chances are zero. If they pay him more than everyone else, they're probably close to 90%. This simple concept continues to elude you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) It depends on what they offer. If they low ball him, their chances are zero. If they pay him more than everyone else, they're probably close to 90%. This simple concept continues to elude you. What part of my post stating when I said he comes to the team if they offer crazy dollars didn't you understand? I personally think it has to be much more for him to come to Buffalo than a team with an in place strong defense only missing a QB. But Whaley is certainly capable of blowing up the next decade in a desperate grasp to save his job for the next 2-3 years. Do I think it is a good idea to get a guy that has shown he is at the point where he is breaking down, absolutely not. I can't think of a guy once he starts the cycle of missing big portions of 2 consecutive seasons just gets healthy again. If you can think of such a 36+ year old let me know and PS it isn't Peyton Manning because he played 16 games prior to missing an entire season. Edited February 9, 2017 by jms62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 What part of my post stating when I said he comes to the team if they offer crazy dollars didn't you understand? I personally think it has to be much more for him to come to Buffalo than a team with an in place strong defense only missing a QB. But Whaley is certainly capable of blowing up the next decade in a desperate grasp to save his job for the next 2-3 years. Do I think it is a good idea to get a guy that has shown he is at the point where he is breaking down, absolutely not. I can't think of a guy once he starts the cycle of missing big portions of 2 consecutive seasons just gets healthy again. If you can think of such a 36+ year old let me know and PS it isn't Peyton Manning because he played 16 games prior to missing an entire season. What's your definition of crazy dollars? Houston has Osweiler with a $19M cap hit. You don't think we could pay more than them and still keep it reasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpleman Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Houston makes the most sense for many reasons. I don't why people keep saying things like this. Does it make sense to spend $35 Million plus dollars for TT to play at Houston? TT is a mediocre bridge QB, he is not Tom Brady. If TT's contract wasn't outrageously cap expensive for a mediocre bridge QB, there would be no question about him being the starting QB in Buffalo this year. Romo would be 40+ million,while he is not Brady, he might have a chance of getting them to the SB, but I would not take those odds based on his durability, not that his talent level isn't good enough to do it. All decisions are not made in a vacuum, the cap is the main consideration. $40 plus million better get you as close to a healthy Brady as you can get. Edited February 9, 2017 by simpleman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I don't why people keep saying this. Does it make sense to spend $35 Million plus dollars for TT to play at Houston? TT is a mediocre bridge QB, he is not Tom Brady. If TT's contract wasn't outrageously cap expensive for a mediocre bridge QB, there would be no question about him being the starting QB in Buffalo this year. Budy... Thanks for piping in but I'm not saying anything about TT in Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 What's your definition of crazy dollars? Houston has Osweiler with a $19M cap hit. You don't think we could pay more than them and still keep it reasonable? Even at your 20 million I define overpaying as guaranteeing the contract for the second year. This is WAY too much to pay for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years. How can you make that guarantee in the desperate hope that he returns to 2014 when everything points to his body having deserted him. IMO there is a better chance of Tyrod returning to 2015 form with a healthy upgraded receiver corp than Romo reverting to 2014 form and starting 16 games. I would bet the under 10 starts on him next year with both hands if it were offered. You have any examples of a 36+ year old player missing better part of 2 seasons reverting to Pro Bowl form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Even at your 20 million I define overpaying as guaranteeing the contract for the second year. This is WAY too much to pay for a guy who hasn't played in 2 years. How can you make that guarantee in the desperate hope that he returns to 2014 when everything points to his body having deserted him. IMO there is a better chance of Tyrod returning to 2015 form with a healthy upgraded receiver corp than Romo reverting to 2014 form and starting 16 games. I would bet the under 10 starts on him next year with both hands if it were offered. You have any examples of a 36+ year old player missing better part of 2 seasons reverting to Pro Bowl form? Because he's going to want guarantees to even bother playing. And if he's healthy and reverts to form, he's locked up. And if he gets hurt again, he'll probably just retire, and we're out of it in a year anyway. If you sign Romo for 2 years $40M and draft a rookie, you just get to evaluate that rookie earlier. Or Cardale. It's not as though the rookie is getting paid anything serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jms62 Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 (edited) Because he's going to want guarantees to even bother playing. And if he's healthy and reverts to form, he's locked up. And if he gets hurt again, he'll probably just retire, and we're out of it in a year anyway. If you sign Romo for 2 years $40M and draft a rookie, you just get to evaluate that rookie earlier. Or Cardale. It's not as though the rookie is getting paid anything serious. He'll want guarantees thus a team giving him 2 years based upon where he is in his career and what he has shown is Grossly overpaying. You have any examples of a 36+ year old player missing better part of 2 seasons reverting to Pro Bowl form? Seems like there are SO MANY IF's in your scenario (Healthy, Returns to Form, Retires if hurt)... Don't see how anyone but a desperate GM makes this move. Look at where we are now. A good defense and kicker and we get to the playoffs. And that good defense may simply be a scheme change. Edited February 9, 2017 by jms62 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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