Tiberius Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 CNN and the three broadcast networks are doing everything they can to marginalize themselves, just like congressional Democrats are. They have to realize that a massive number of viewers didn't buy their schtick before the election, and less are doing so now. It's like watching someone committing suicide by repeatedly stabbing themselves with a safety pin while screaming through a megaphone - and everyone else is just watching in amazement. Its amazing how well propaganda works to brainwash people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Miner Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Its amazing how well propaganda works to brainwash people We don't need you to switch to tee ball. You can stick with your fast pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Food for thought and a bit of context as the events yesterday in Syria are sorted: - The town where the most recent chemical attack occurred in Syria was AQ controlled and housed a chemical weapons factory, - The 2013 gas attack, which the US first blamed on Assad, has since been shown to have more than likely come from rebels, of course this wasn't covered at all in 2013 because the press and the unipolarists were still pushing for US intervention in Syria, - Considering how the Russian narrative is suddenly losing traction, coupled with Rice being put into the cross-hairs, the timing of the attack is somewhat suspicious, Anti-Fraud Experts Launch News-Accuracy Site, Find U.S. Probably Blamed Wrong Side for Syria Chemical Attackhttps://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-12-06/anti-fraud-experts-launch-news-accuracy-site-find-us-probably-blamed-wrong-side-for-syria-chemical-attack The game continues... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Food for thought and a bit of context as the events yesterday in Syria are sorted: - The town where the most recent chemical attack occurred in Syria was AQ controlled and housed a chemical weapons factory, - The 2013 gas attack, which the US first blamed on Assad, has since been shown to have more than likely come from rebels, of course this wasn't covered at all in 2013 because the press and the unipolarists were still pushing for US intervention in Syria, - Considering how the Russian narrative is suddenly losing traction, coupled with Rice being put into the cross-hairs, the timing of the attack is somewhat suspicious, Anti-Fraud Experts Launch News-Accuracy Site, Find U.S. Probably Blamed Wrong Side for Syria Chemical Attackhttps://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-12-06/anti-fraud-experts-launch-news-accuracy-site-find-us-probably-blamed-wrong-side-for-syria-chemical-attack The game continues... Surprised you didn't point out that the article was carried by a pro-neocon publication. Wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Surprised you didn't point out that the article was carried by a pro-neocon publication. Wonder why? Because I knew you would point it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Because I knew you would point it out Kinda blows a hole in the theory that all neocons are after is regime change in Syria, doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 It will be WW3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Kinda blows a hole in the theory that all neocons are after is regime change in Syria, doesn't it? If I had proposed that theory, then it would. But since I never said it, it does not. Agreed -- though now Bolton is out, so some hope remains. The rest is for clarity: Neocon/Neoliberal -- different name, same desire to push their version of democracy through the force of one hegemonic entity that resides above the traditional definition of a nation state. As stated in the beginning of this thread, trying to reduce the Deep State down to one group, one ideology, one country, one corporation, or any other such reductive interpretation is a waste of time and a disservice to the truth. The Deep State is warring with itself now precisely because there is more than one philosophy as to how best run the world and people inside it disagree as to where to go next. The neocon philosophy is certainly a favorite among many on the outs in the Deep State today for reasons already covered, but that doesn't mean every neocon is a part of the Deep State or that every part of the Deep State believes in the neocon philosophy. However, the group calling the shots for the Deep State since Kennedy was killed is, above all else, unipolarists who believe the key to stability is one global power -- this is why the neocon philosophy is favored by that group... or was through 43 until it morphed into neoliberalism under 44 and HRC. GG will see this as a contradiction because he's hung up on labels rather than looking at the evidence dispassionately. He fully believes neoconservatism is the best way to go, and has said so repeatedly. He has a right to his opinion of course, no matter how the evidence has demonstrated that this philosophy is completely incompatible with our democratic republic (and why the neocons under Bush pushed so hard to strip away our civil liberties and constitutional protections -- their philosophy probably would work under a more authoritarian rule). Thus, GG will be the last one that will be willing to look at this topic honestly since he will see any discussion of this as being an affront to his chosen team. One day he'll get there. Edited April 5, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) If I had proposed that theory, then it would. But since I never said it, it does not. So we should ignore over one years' worth of prognostications that neocons wanted Hillary in the White House because she was their next champion of regime change? PS - Lookie here at who may now be supporting regime change. Edited April 5, 2017 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 So we should ignore over one years' worth of prognostications that neocons wanted Hillary in the White House because she was their next champion of regime change? PS - Lookie here at who may now be supporting regime change. Of course not. The biggest names in the neocon world flooded to Hillary's campaign -- either with explicit support or tacit -- because she ran on the promise of more regime change and war. This is a fact that is well documented. You can't revise that history no matter how much you want to. Your team wanted Hillary because of her hawkish resume. And, if 45 becomes a regime change president, we will know which side won in this battle going on behind the scenes... which has been stated numerous time in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 And, if 45 becomes a regime change president, we will know which side won in this battle going on behind the scenes... which has been stated numerous time in this thread. Or to be the latest to understand the grave situation once he learned the facts. Of course in your world, Dar Adal has found a new marionette, so the plot line can continue uninterrupted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Or to be the latest to understand the grave situation once he learned the facts. Facts like regime change is just simply wishing people better lives? Facts like that you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 Facts like regime change is just simply wishing people better lives? Facts like that you mean? Yeah something like that. Let's see what happens now that there's a thin skinned narcissist with a backbone in the White House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Yeah something like that. Let's see what happens now that there's a thin skinned narcissist with a backbone in the White House. So far in this thread you've gone off on subjects you admit you didn't read the material about and made definitive statements about said material -- which is gatorman level ignorant, you've celebrated US war crimes, and clapped for US pilots killing Syrian soldiers during a cease fire... these are things most people would be ashamed to admit publicly. But you're a special breed. Keep fighting the noble fight GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 So far in this thread you've gone off on subjects you admit you didn't read the material about and made definitive statements about said material -- which is gatorman level ignorant, you've celebrated US war crimes, and clapped for US pilots killing Syrian soldiers during a cease fire... these are things most people would be ashamed to admit publicly. But you're a special breed. Keep fighting the noble fight GG. Yes, I clapped that US soldiers killed part of the Syrian war machine that indiscriminately slaughters innocents. And I'm proud of that. You are appalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 (edited) Yes, I clapped that US soldiers killed part of the Syrian war machine that indiscriminately slaughters innocents during a cease fire, thus committing a war crime. And I'm proud of that. You are appalled. FTFY I know you're proud of it, but at least be honest about what you're proud of. Most people would be ashamed of such a thing, but not you. Like I said, your'e a special breed. Keep fighting the noble fight. Maybe one day you'll get the type of government you truly want -- one that's compatible with the neocon agenda. Because our democratic republic is most assuredly incompatible with neoconservatism and its love of regime change wars. You think most would come to understand this basic concept... but the conditioning in you is strong. Edited April 5, 2017 by Deranged Rhino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 FTFY I know you're proud of it, but at least be honest about what you're proud of. Most people would be ashamed of such a thing, but not you. Like I said, your'e a special breed. Keep fighting the noble fight. Maybe one day you'll get the type of government you truly want -- one that's compatible with the neocon agenda. Because our democratic republic is most assuredly incompatible with neoconservatism and its love of regime change wars. You think most would come to understand this basic concept... but the conditioning in you is strong. Methinks your the one who's still scrambling and none of your prognostications ate coming true. But just like the screenplay that struggles to keep the lead character alive despite obvious plot holes, you keep plugging away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 FTFY I know you're proud of it, but at least be honest about what you're proud of. Most people would be ashamed of such a thing, but not you. Like I said, your'e a special breed. Keep fighting the noble fight. Maybe one day you'll get the type of government you truly want -- one that's compatible with the neocon agenda. Because our democratic republic is most assuredly incompatible with neoconservatism and its love of regime change wars. You think most would come to understand this basic concept... but the conditioning in you is strong. I've seen a more coherent plot from the Walking Dead. Yes, I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted April 5, 2017 Author Share Posted April 5, 2017 Methinks your the one who's still scrambling and none of your prognostications ate coming true. But just like the screenplay that struggles to keep the lead character alive despite obvious plot holes, you keep plugging away None? Proving once again you haven't been paying attention to what's being said in this thread, just filling in the blanks with your own jingoistic interpretation. I've seen a more coherent plot from the Walking Dead. Yes, I said it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted April 5, 2017 Share Posted April 5, 2017 None? Proving once again you haven't been paying attention to what's being said in this thread, just filling in the blanks with your own jingoistic interpretation. None. There's zero evidence of infighting among the intelligence services, but there's plenty of evidence of blowback against Obama loyalists. And getting back to Syria, yes I applaud the US military for blowing scum to smithereens. Obviously that means that I support the coming military state. Please wake me when it arrives when you get back from the coronation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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