The Poojer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 only one of Tyrod's drives ended in a TD Most of Manuel and Taylor's drives ended in TD's, I wasn't going to penalize players for Kickers missing FG's. Which did happen, which is why it's a % stat. I can convert it into TD% if you wish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 only one of Tyrod's drives ended in a TD You want to re-think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 (edited) i guess my bad...did he hand off to brown for one and seale for one? no, cassell handed off to seale...i guess he handed off to brown in the carolina game? forgot about the karlos williams play in carolina You want to re-think that? Edited August 31, 2015 by The Poojer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I've seen a lot of people state pretty much the same thing around the many QB threads and I don't really understand the logic. By saying that one thinks QB A has looked a better QB than QB B...but they expect QB B will get the start, isn't that saying that one either does not have faith in the coaches to make the right decision, or that one(for some reason) thinks that their own analysis is wrong? I think it's saying that there are other factors than preseason games that go into the analysis of QB choice, for example performance during practice, especially the practices towards the end of training camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 i guess my bad...did he hand off to brown for one and seale for one? no, cassell handed off to seale...i guess he handed off to brown in the carolina game? forgot about the karlos williams play in carolina Both of his drives against the Steelers ended in TDs. A run from Wood and a run from Tyrod. He handed off to Karlos for a TD in the 1st game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think it's saying that there are other factors than preseason games that go into the analysis of QB choice, for example performance during practice, especially the practices towards the end of training camp. I unerstand that, but several people stated that they thought QB A was the better QB but thought QB B would start. This makes very little sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I stand corrected... Both of his drives against the Steelers ended in TDs. A run from Wood and a run from Tyrod. He handed off to Karlos for a TD in the 1st game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think it's saying that there are other factors than preseason games that go into the analysis of QB choice, for example performance during practice, especially the practices towards the end of training camp. I think it's saying that most fans have no idea how to analyze QB play. I unerstand that, but several people stated that they thought QB A was the better QB but thought QB B would start. This makes very little sense to me. Tyrod looked better and Tyrod should start. Did you see Manuel or Cassel fake the defense out on a Goodwin stop-and-go down the left side and then come clear across the field to Gray for the 1st down? No. No other QB executed a 3-step and 5-step drop combo in preseason (that I saw), which is a classic run-and-shoot concept. Here's an excerpt from a smartfootball.com article: Three-step and five-step, together. The idea for this solution came from two sources: the old run and shoot “Read” play and the book, Concept Passing,” where Dan Gonzalez describes something similar. The broad idea is to achieve multiple things in one play-call, but to sequence it so that it all can actually be done by a high school or college kid. The run and shoot “read route” put a “quick” or three-step-esque (remember that the run and shoot used half-rollouts) to one side, while putting the old favorite, the “switch” to the backside. See below: Against any kind of blitz or tight-man, the quarterback would deliver the ball to one of the outside receivers (typically the slot running to the flat) off his third-step. If the defense covered that, he would finish his drop, step up, and read the two backside receivers running the old switch, which was just a form of the “seam read” from four verticals but where the two receivers criss-crossed at the snap. - See more at: http://smartfootball.com/passing/packaging-three-step-and-five-step-concepts-into-the-same-play#sthash.sewHWGz9.dpuf Tyrod is doing everything that Roman wants and passing with flying colors. I'm not saying he's going to be an elite QB, but he's looked the best and he's earned the spot, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted August 31, 2015 Author Share Posted August 31, 2015 only one of Tyrod's drives ended in a TD It's amazing how far off you're on this. His drives ended in a higher TD% than any QB. I'm eating lunch at work, if you really want the TD's I can do that for you. But it's a waste of time. His % of TD drives was the highest of any QB. His points per possession were the highest of any QB. These are stats remember, not open to opinion outside of debating the merits of the stats. Sorry if it doesn't fit your narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 please see my mea culpa that I posted It's amazing how far off you're on this. His drives ended in a higher TD% than any QB. I'm eating lunch at work, if you really want the TD's I can do that for you. But it's a waste of time. His % of TD drives was the highest of any QB. His points per possession were the highest of any QB. These are stats remember, not open to opinion outside of debating the merits of the stats. Sorry if it doesn't fit your narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 Greg Roman is the QB whisperer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 ... Tyrod looked better and Tyrod should start. .... See, that sort of thinking makes perfect sense. (No sarcasm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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