biglukes Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) I think that the reporters are trying to point out that the wrist injury was not a real one, but something mostly psychosomatic and Williams' procedure had a placebo effect. What kind of surgery could he have had if he was ready to play within one week? Which I think is a ridiculous assertion by any reporter who thinks that. How could they possibly have any idea what pain Mario was in pre-surgery or how much better he felt after? His play certainly bore it out. So maybe AP's ACL tear was all in his head since he came back so fast and played at such a high level? Questioning guy's injuries puts them on a slippery slope. Edited August 4, 2013 by biglukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 Or, maybe, just maybe, Mario is resting a small injury a week BEFORE the first pre-season game. Funny thing, everybody called him out on the arm, yet once he got surgery, he played up to expectations (if you were paying attention). And leave it to Sully to stir the pot days after the nonsensical, pointless hubbub had died down. MMD, you and Jerry Sullivan and your shared negativity are about as useful as the non-Glengarry leads. I sold on those leads, now hit the bricks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Which I think is a ridiculous assertion by any reporter who thinks that. How could they possibly have any idea what pain Mario was in pre-surgery or how much better he felt after? His play certainly bore it out. So maybe AP's ACL tear was all in his head since he came back so fast and played at such a high level? Questioning guy's injuries puts them on a slippery slope. The reason they questioned the injury mirrored the team's view on it. Gailey apparently didn't even know about the injury. Again, what kind of surgery did he have that he was fully rehabbed during the bye week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I think that the reporters are trying to point out that the wrist injury was not a real one, but something mostly psychosomatic and Williams' procedure had a placebo effect. What kind of surgery could he have had if he was ready to play within one week? lancing a ganglion cyst perhaps. freeing a pinched nerve perhaps. debris- cleaning of a bursa perhaps. clipping a torn hangnail perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 I think that the reporters are trying to point out that the wrist injury was not a real one, but something mostly psychosomatic and Williams' procedure had a placebo effect. What kind of surgery could he have had if he was ready to play within one week? Bingo, we have a smart man. Drama Queens have a tendency to blow everything up, placebo procedures & now I'm cured. What's up next: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) The reason they questioned the injury mirrored the team's view on it. Gailey apparently didn't even know about the injury. Again, what kind of surgery did he have that he was fully rehabbed during the bye week? Fully rehabbed? He was still wearing wrist protection after the surgery. It's not like he came back and had full function of his wrist... EDIT: Your stance sounds like Tim Graham's stance... Edited August 4, 2013 by Wayne Cubed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 The reason they questioned the injury mirrored the team's view on it. Gailey apparently didn't even know about the injury. Again, what kind of surgery did he have that he was fully rehabbed during the bye week? I'm no pro athlete, but I had minor groin surgery a few months ago and was back to hockey after two weeks. I know it's not exactly a perfect comparison, but there are definitely procedures that can make a big difference in how you feel and don't require a long recovery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle flap Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) The reason they questioned the injury mirrored the team's view on it. Gailey apparently didn't even know about the injury. Again, what kind of surgery did he have that he was fully rehabbed during the bye week? We went over this when it happened. He had his wrist "scoped," which is a minimally invasive procedure. In a very simple sense, the Dr. inserts a narrow tube that clears out the "junk." In Mario's case he had scar tissue removed from his ligaments/tendons which immediately increased his range of motion and alleviated the pain he was suffering. Arthroscopic Wrist Surgery: http://www.assh.org/...rthroscopy.aspx Edited August 4, 2013 by uncle flap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 I'm no pro athlete, but I had minor groin surgery a few months ago and was back to hockey after two weeks. I know it's not exactly a perfect comparison, but there are definitely procedures that can make a big difference in how you feel and don't require a long recovery. I can see that, it's just that you don't have to move 300 LBS hockey players out of the way to get to your goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 We went over this when it happened. He had his wrist "scoped," which is a minimally invasive procedure. In a very simple sense, the Dr. inserts a narrow tube that clears out the "junk." In Mario's case he had scarred tissue removed from his ligaments/tendons which immediately increased his range of motion and alleviated the pain he was suffering. Arthroscopic Wrist Surgery: http://www.assh.org/...rthroscopy.aspx Pssssh don't bring actual medical procedures into this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Fully rehabbed? He was still wearing wrist protection after the surgery. It's not like he came back and had full function of his wrist... EDIT: Your stance sounds like Tim Graham's stance... It doesn't matter whose stance I mirror. I just find very odd coincidences in Mario's actions. No word about the wrist during training camp. Gets schooled by a practice squad tackle in week one, suddenly the wrist problem appears. Participates in all otas, passed team physical, and one day later develops a mystery foot ailment. If this were TO, no one would bat an eye lash. I have no problem with him being a drama queen as long he performs. But there are far more incidentals revolving around Mario than any other player on the team. It's ridiculous to ignore it. Edited August 4, 2013 by GG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It doesn't matter whose stance I mirror. I just find very odd coincidences in Mario's actions. No word about the wrist during training camp. Gets schooled by a practice squad tackle in week one, suddenly the wrist problem appears. Participates in all otas, passed team physical, and one day later develops a mystery got ailment. If this were TO, no one would bat an eye lash. I have no problem with him being a drama queen as long he performs. But there are far more incidentals revolving around Mario than any other player on the team. It's ridiculous to ignore it. Is there far more incidents or is it because he is the highest player on the team, he gets more coverage? and scrutiny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Is there far more incidents or is it because he is the highest player on the team, he gets more coverage? and scrutiny? He gets as much coverage as the other stars, but for whatever reason, there's far less drama with the others. Even Stevie is tame by comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 He gets as much coverage as the other stars, but for whatever reason, there's far less drama with the others. Even Stevie is tame by comparison. Stevie is a showman & still has way less drama than Mario, isn't this obvious ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerland Bills Fan Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 There's a lot of opinion about Mario that he came to the Bills only because the other teams were smart enough to pass on him. These Bumbling Bills can't do anything right, so signing Mario must have been a mistake. This comes from not just from some fans but people being paid a salary to write about the team. I couldn't disagree more. When you consider the position he plays, his talent, his age, and that there weren't any draft picks given up to get him it was completely the right move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It doesn't matter whose stance I mirror. I just find very odd coincidences in Mario's actions. No word about the wrist during training camp. Gets schooled by a practice squad tackle in week one, suddenly the wrist problem appears. Participates in all otas, passed team physical, and one day later develops a mystery foot ailment. Didnt the wrist happen in the final preseason game? Are we really on a "he made it up" kick now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Didnt the wrist happen in the final preseason game? Are we really on a "he made it up" kick now? Did his foot problem show up after he decided to get a few extra days away from the beginning of camp to go on his own for a second opinion ? Edited August 4, 2013 by mitchmurraydowntown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biglukes Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Did his foot problem show up after he decided to get a few extra days away from the beginning of camp to go on his own for a second opinion ? The Bills sent him for a second opinion. To the same guy they sent Kyle Williams and Schobel to. It's not like he just took off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchmurraydowntown Posted August 4, 2013 Author Share Posted August 4, 2013 The Bills sent him for a second opinion. To the same guy they sent Kyle Williams and Schobel to. It's not like he just took off. The coaches didn't know they did that now did they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Didnt the wrist happen in the final preseason game? Are we really on a "he made it up" kick now? No, we're simply parroting what Texans fans were saying for the first five years of his career. He does get production, but there's always a back story. It's not like this just started happening when he arrived in Orchard Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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