enlightener Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 If you could pick and choose, physical and mental traits, of all the QB's in the NFL and combine them, what would they look like? Try and limit your QB to having only only trait from any other QB. Feel free to add or delete any of these categories while making yours. I felt these to be some of the biggest factors IMO. I chose to keep it with present players but if you want to go old school, make it worth it! Hope to see some interesting combinations. Sincerely, -Bored at Work Here's my Super-Q...seriously. Stature: doug fluite Pocket Presence: Rob johnson Arm Strength: Trent Edwards Accuracy: Ryan Fitzpatrick Scramble Ability: Drew Bledsoe Decision Making:Billy Joe hobert Leadership: Travaris Jackson agian, I am being completely serious......pffft hhahah hhamuhahhaaa MMMUAHAHAHAH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Here's my Super-Q...seriously. Stature: doug fluite Pocket Presence: Rob johnson Arm Strength: Trent Edwards Accuracy: Ryan Fitzpatrick Scramble Ability: Drew Bledsoe Decision Making:Billy Joe hobert Leadership: Travaris Jackson agian, I am being completely serious......pffft hhahah hhamuhahhaaa MMMUAHAHAHAH Very funny stuff BUT… teammates of T Jackson rave about his leadership ability. He's played injured a lot and his been a model teammate wherever he's been. Also, while he was a glove-wearing Mary, etc. Trent had a stronger arm than Flutie… inasmuch as Flutie was a much better QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Very funny stuff BUT… teammates of T Jackson rave about his leadership ability. He's played injured a lot and his been a model teammate wherever he's been. Also, while he was a glove-wearing Mary, etc. Trent had a stronger arm than Flutie… inasmuch as Flutie was a much better QB. t edwards used his wrist to throw even on deep balls. His "deep" ball often fluttered and went through the air about 30 yrds maybe 40 maximum, Flutie would put it deep all the time with no flutter and it would travel some 50 yards at times but usually around 40, his BC hailmary was about 60 if im not mistaken so your take on flutie vs trent is incorrect. Trents arm was also visibly weaker while flutie had some short but thick mini-guns. As for TJ I was referring to all the onfield leadership we saw him display as a Bill : ) Also I had used up all the current bills qb's besides losman but he did actually come across w decent leadership ability. I could have put trent there but that would have left losman as the arm strength guy which was actually true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsWatch Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Where is toughness? A number of supposedly great QBs have been hit and break very easily. This was the essential characteristic of Jim Kelly - a QB in a LB body who could not only take hits but give them when necessary/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 t edwards used his wrist to throw even on deep balls. His "deep" ball often fluttered and went through the air about 30 yrds maybe 40 maximum, Flutie would put it deep all the time with no flutter and it would travel some 50 yards at times but usually around 40, his BC hailmary was about 60 if im not mistaken so your take on flutie vs trent is incorrect. Trents arm was also visibly weaker while flutie had some short but thick mini-guns. As for TJ I was referring to all the onfield leadership we saw him display as a Bill : ) Also I had used up all the current bills qb's besides losman but he did actually come across w decent leadership ability. I could have put trent there but that would have left losman as the arm strength guy which was actually true! You know you're right about Flutie vs Trent arm strength-wise. In that case I nominate Matt Kofler for arm strength. He had a serious rag arm. Ferragamo also had a weak arm as did Kelly Holcomb. And sadly, there are others… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enlightener Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 You know you're right about Flutie vs Trent arm strength-wise. In that case I nominate Matt Kofler for arm strength. He had a serious rag arm. Ferragamo also had a weak arm as did Kelly Holcomb. And sadly, there are others… yes i thought the same thing, how sad it is that for arm strength I could have said trent, holcolm, and of course fitzpatrick, sadly the ones with the best arms had little brains, losman and RJ. But I could easily just use one guy and make the same joke for almost all categories...here goes... Stature:: rob johnsons nose...nothing stood out so prominently Pocket Presence: Trent edwards...he was always right in one, until he got sacked Arm wrist Strength: Trent Edwards Accuracy: trent edwards (not hard when you throw only to running backs) Scramble out of bounds Ability: trent edwards ( and is running backwards and to the right everytime a scramble?) Leadership: Trent edwards ( he lead the his team in new hair styles every year) Toughness: Trent edwards ( its hard to last over 3 plays in the NFL) nod to RJ who once got knocked out the first play of a game. flutie won it,but rj got the official "Win" Decision Making:Billy Joe hobert (you cant beat admitting you dont know the playbook) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 If you could pick and choose, physical and mental traits, of all the QB's in the NFL and combine them, what would they look like? Try and limit your QB to having only only trait from any other QB. Here's my Super-Q... Stature: Big Ben Pocket Presence: Aaron Rodgers Arm Strength: Matt Stafford Accuracy: Matt Ryan Scramble Ability: Cam Newton Decision Making: Tom Brady (that hurts me to say) Leadership: Peyton Manning Feel free to add or delete any of these categories while making yours. I felt these to be some of the biggest factors IMO. I chose to keep it with present players but if you want to go old school, make it worth it! Hope to see some interesting combinations. Sincerely, -Bored at Work Short-to-intermediate accuracy: Kelly Holcomb Intermediate-to-deep accuracy: Rob Johnson Sack avoidance: Doug Flutie Stature: Drew Bledsoe Arm strength: J.P. Losman Scrambling ability: Tarvaris Jackson Decision-making: Ryan Fitzpatrick If you could combine the best attributes of the Bills' post-Kelly quarterbacks, you'd have a franchise QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Food_Pyramid_Wrong Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Russell Wilson in Cam Newton's body or Tom Brady in his prime or Steve Young in his prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astrobot Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Best topic of the Doldrum Weeks so far. 24 more days until Training Camp. Hope to see many of you there. Best Touch: Drew Brees Best Long Ball: Matt Stafford Best Pocket Presence: Aaron Rodgers Best Stature: Ben Roethlisberger Worst on Roller Coaster or Waterslide: Tom Brady Biggest Bust: Sanchez Best Interview: Terry Bradshaw Best Future: EJ Manuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justnzane Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Stature: Rapelisberger Pocket Presence: Manning Arm Strength: Dog Killer Accuracy: Rodgers Scramble Ability: RG III Decision Making: Flacco Leadership: Peyton Manning Durability: The Retarded Manning Face of the Franchise: Andy Dalton (his hair color matches his helmet ) The "IT" Factor: Brady Edited July 4, 2013 by justnzane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Don't really feel like reading through all these, but toughness/grit/leadership: Ryan Fitzpatrick. Gonna miss that dude. Just wish he was a little better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tcali Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 t edwards used his wrist to throw even on deep balls. His "deep" ball often fluttered and went through the air about 30 yrds maybe 40 maximum, Flutie would put it deep all the time with no flutter and it would travel some 50 yards at times but usually around 40, his BC hailmary was about 60 if im not mistaken so your take on flutie vs trent is incorrect. Trents arm was also visibly weaker while flutie had some short but thick mini-guns. As for TJ I was referring to all the onfield leadership we saw him display as a Bill : ) Also I had used up all the current bills qb's besides losman but he did actually come across w decent leadership ability. I could have put trent there but that would have left losman as the arm strength guy which was actually true! trent even checked down his own deep passes. Don't really feel like reading through all these, but toughness/grit/leadership: Ryan Fitzpatrick. Gonna miss that dude. Just wish he was a little better. very true.he wasn't a wimp. he was a good athlete.he never hung his head. It was so disappointing that he didn't have the passing talent or football brilliance.We would have loved to have rooted for him--warts and all. he coulda been our Joe Kapp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Very funny stuff BUT… teammates of T Jackson rave about his leadership ability. He's played injured a lot and his been a model teammate wherever he's been. Also, while he was a glove-wearing Mary, etc. Trent had a stronger arm than Flutie… inasmuch as Flutie was a much better QB. Wouldn't Alex van pelt be a better arm strength candidate in this bills all star team? Don't really feel like reading through all these, but toughness/grit/leadership: Ryan Fitzpatrick. Gonna miss that dude. Just wish he was a little better. Yes agreed. Although there was a question mark about him, I always wondered if he wanted to win bad enough to relentlessly work his game in the down time a la Brady. No question he gave his all on game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Wouldn't Alex van pelt be a better arm strength candidate in this bills all star team? Great call. AVP had a great mind for quarterback, better than Fitz, IMO. But like Fitz his arm disqualified him from being anything other than a backup-quality quarterback. And to take this full circle, Matt Barkley is a guy who has everything. I believe that his arm will limit his success in the NFL. Many others don't agree. NFL teams obviously hedged by him lasting until the 4th round. Perhaps he'll prove his detractors wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton's Arm Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Great call. AVP had a great mind for quarterback, better than Fitz, IMO. But like Fitz his arm disqualified him from being anything other than a backup-quality quarterback. And to take this full circle, Matt Barkley is a guy who has everything. I believe that his arm will limit his success in the NFL. Many others don't agree. NFL teams obviously hedged by him lasting until the 4th round. Perhaps he'll prove his detractors wrong. > AVP had a great mind for quarterback, better than Fitz, IMO. In that case, maybe I should put AVP into the "decision making" slot, and create a new "toughness/leadership" spot for Fitz. > And to take this full circle, Matt Barkley is a guy who has everything. I believe that his arm will limit his success in the NFL. Obviously, concerns about his arm strength were more deeply seated than I'd realized; or else he wouldn't have lasted until the fourth round. It's quite possible his lack of arm strength will prove his Achilles Heel; preventing what otherwise would have been a very successful career. Several years after having drafted Aaron Rodgers, the Packers used a second round pick on Craig Nall. That decision on the Packers' part doesn't seem to have irreparably damaged Rodgers' self-confidence or mental ability to play. If a guy is truly confident in himself, he's going to look at competition at the QB position as a challenge, and an opportunity to prove that he's better than any other guy on the team. If Barkley can achieve the same level of arm strength as Montana or Brady, he has the potential to become a franchise quarterback. I would much rather the Bills used their third round pick on him, than on a WR who didn't even start for his own college team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I'm going to try to create a great QB using only mediocre quarterbacks. Stature: Vince Young Pocket Presence: Doug Flutie Arm Strength: JaMarcus Russell Accuracy: Chad Pennington Scramble Ability: Mike Vick Decision Making: Ryan Fitzpatrick Leadership: Tim Tebow Swagger: Scrubs don't have swag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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