Happy Days Lois & Clark Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 http://www.theredzone.org/2005/freeagents/index.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 nice link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsNYC Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 oh my god please cut pucillo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Worth taking a good hard look at (to name a few): TEs: Antonio Gates Jermaine Wiggins Anthony Becht Anthony Becht Freddie Jones Kickers: Jeff Reed Adam Vinatieri And every offensive lineman out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCCEO Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Worth taking a good hard look at (to name a few): TEs: Antonio Gates Jermaine Wiggins Anthony Becht Anthony Becht Freddie Jones Kickers: Jeff Reed Adam Vinatieri And every offensive lineman out there. 201724[/snapback] OK, here are the guys I htink are worth looking at in the FA period(realistically, so I will not include anyone like Antonio Gates or Orlando Pace). Guys who would be significant upgrades are listed in bold. OG: Joe Andruzzi Rick Demulling Marco Rivera DEFINATELY NOT RON STONE (he's like ruben brown II) Jermaine Mayberry David Dixon OT(If Jonas leaves etc etc.): Kareem McKenzie Ryan Diem Bob Whitfield Langston Walker Stockar McDougle Floyd "pork chop" Womack(who can play Guard too) Victor Riley TE: Bubba Franks(the guy can maul in the run game & is a major red zone threat, although not a gates/gonzalez type) Jermaine Wiggins Freddie Jones(older guy who catches passes, but not much else) Cam Cleeland(injury risk is real high, but he's got hands and would add depth) Itulla Milii(consistent performer) Ken Dilger WR(realistic 3rd wideout options only): Travis Taylor TJ Houshmandzadeh Corey Bradford Tai Streets Curtis Conway(maybe a little too old at this point though) Charles Lee Bill Shroeder(maybe he could resurrect his role as token white guy 3rd reciever here) 2nd RB: Dominic Rhodes Garrison Hearst A-Train(pipe dream since he'll probobly land a starting job somewhere) Eddie George(just to come in and pound in short yardage and to wear down D's while WIllis rests) Correll Buckhalter Dorsey Levens DE(for people who think Kelsay won't cut it, although I argue that he will be just fine): Shaun Ellis(although I think he already signed an extension) John Abraham(he'd want way too much $$$ anyhow) Carlos Hall *Restricted FA*(fantastic situational guy who will never be a good every down lineman) Alex Brown*RFA* Darren Howard DT(we better keep fat pat because FA looks pretty thin at DT): Corey Simon(too much $$$$) CHris Hovan(probobly teh only viable fat pat replacement, but hes a different type of DT anyhow). CB(for depth): Gary Baxter(probobly will start somewhere) Terrell Buckley(always an AFC east training camp invite somewhere) Anthony Henry Nick Harper Charles Woodson(for all you pie-in-the-sky idiots) Ken Lucas(will start somewhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnTheRocks Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 here's a hint...don't look at players unless they have an "UFA" after their name. look at Antonio Gates all you like...but, he ain't leavin' SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 OK, here are the guys I htink are worth looking at in the FA period(realistically, so I will not include anyone like Antonio Gates or Orlando Pace). Guys who would be significant upgrades are listed in bold. OG: Joe Andruzzi Rick Demulling Marco Rivera DEFINATELY NOT RON STONE (he's like ruben brown II) Jermaine Mayberry David Dixon OT(If Jonas leaves etc etc.): Kareem McKenzie Ryan Diem Bob Whitfield Langston Walker Stockar McDougle Floyd "pork chop" Womack(who can play Guard too) Victor Riley TE: Bubba Franks(the guy can maul in the run game & is a major red zone threat, although not a gates/gonzalez type) Jermaine Wiggins Freddie Jones(older guy who catches passes, but not much else) Cam Cleeland(injury risk is real high, but he's got hands and would add depth) Itulla Milii(consistent performer) Ken Dilger WR(realistic 3rd wideout options only): Travis Taylor TJ Houshmandzadeh Corey Bradford Tai Streets Curtis Conway(maybe a little too old at this point though) Charles Lee Bill Shroeder(maybe he could resurrect his role as token white guy 3rd reciever here) 2nd RB: Dominic Rhodes Garrison Hearst A-Train(pipe dream since he'll probobly land a starting job somewhere) Eddie George(just to come in and pound in short yardage and to wear down D's while WIllis rests) Correll Buckhalter Dorsey Levens DE(for people who think Kelsay won't cut it, although I argue that he will be just fine): Shaun Ellis(although I think he already signed an extension) John Abraham(he'd want way too much $$$ anyhow) Carlos Hall *Restricted FA*(fantastic situational guy who will never be a good every down lineman) Alex Brown*RFA* Darren Howard DT(we better keep fat pat because FA looks pretty thin at DT): Corey Simon(too much $$$$) CHris Hovan(probobly teh only viable fat pat replacement, but hes a different type of DT anyhow). CB(for depth): Gary Baxter(probobly will start somewhere) Terrell Buckley(always an AFC east training camp invite somewhere) Anthony Henry Nick Harper Charles Woodson(for all you pie-in-the-sky idiots) Ken Lucas(will start somewhere) 201751[/snapback] add mike wahle to your guard list -- surefire cap cut in GB....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCCEO Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 add mike wahle to your guard list -- surefire cap cut in GB....... 201766[/snapback] Good call, there'll be plenty of cap casualties and theres no telling exactly who it'll be just yet. SOmetimes teams make strange choices in terms of the players they decide to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I think an excellent 3rd WR addition would be Dane Looker out of St. Louis. The emergence of Kevin Curtis has made him expendable, but he really has soft hands and is very quick to get open. Would be a nice, cheap possession WR for whoever starts at QB next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Realistically we wont be able to get half of the guys everyone salivates over..... But I think this team would be be dramatically improved with: - a quality Left Guard - Resigining Jennings - Bubba Franks - Resiging Williams - Trade Henry for a 2nd....you our 2 2nd rounders on a pass rush specialist and another quality offensive linemen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick in* england Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Pat Williams could make a ton of money this year, He is the only UFA DT that is any way decent.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCCEO Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Pat Williams could make a ton of money this year, He is the only UFA DT that is any way decent.......... 201786[/snapback] You forget Corey Simon, who is more of an upfield pass-rushing DT, which are the kind that usually make the big bank. However, I'm sure fat pat will have some offers come his way as well. Plus, DT is usually a position where there are some cuts. Teams tend to give big bonuses to lineman and subsequently backload their contracts heavily, plus, since many times a lineman's performance is so hard to gauge, they often are many of the first cap casualites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Realistically we wont be able to get half of the guys everyone salivates over..... But I think this team would be be dramatically improved with: - a quality Left Guard - Resigining Jennings - Bubba Franks - Resiging Williams - Trade Henry for a 2nd....you our 2 2nd rounders on a pass rush specialist and another quality offensive linemen 201782[/snapback] i'd switch the 2nd rounder from a "pass rush specialist" to a "nickelback" and be quite content.......the rest of your list i love and feel it is completely realistic, although i have doubts that TD will sign a top guard and instead will try to get by with a "bargain bin" guy.......i hope that isn't the case because, with our cap situation, we don't need to go discount shopping at that position.......it's a need and it should be addressed (should have been addressed last off-season)...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsGuyInMalta Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 My Offseason wish list, as it stands today would be: Tender offers to Dorenbos, Stamer, Burns and Thomas. Re-sign Pat Williams Re-sign Marcus Price Sign Dane Looker Sign Ryan Diem Sign Rick DeMulling Sign Freddie Jones Trade Travis Henry for a 3rd rounder Draft Mike Nugent with the 2nd rounder, and then the best available CB and O-lineman with the two 3rd round picks. Finish off the draft by snagging a 4th round QB (LaFors) and a 5th round RB for depth. The only free agent out of those who I think will ask for big coin is Ryan Diem, who is really emerging as a fantastic O-Lineman. The rest of them are very underrated but hard-working players, a la Chris Villarial type of free agent pick-ups who could really help out the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philburger1 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 http://www.theredzone.org/2005/freeagents/index.asp 201603[/snapback] Oh no! Once other teams see Mike Pucillo on that list, he is good as gone. Everyone will want to sign him! DOOOMED! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribo Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 I disagree with those of you who say TD will not go after quality linemen this year. I would argue that he must know that the success of his big ticket investments (McGahee, Losman, Evans, and even Drew) now depend almost soley on a quality line. I do believe the time has come to build a great O-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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