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32 minutes ago, teef said:

then why in the world would trump push 50 year mortgages and 15 years car loans?

 

Who cares? You don't have to take them, any more than you have to take the Warp Speed Covid Vaccine.

 

Or did you fall for that one too?

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28 minutes ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

So some people can actually have a chance to buy a house and refinance down the road. This isn't that hard.

it is that hard because that should never be a solution.  i haven't been "angry" towards trump about many things, but this was one of them.  it really just shows us he has no plan...at all.  i'm not sure he has a plan with anything he does.  doge, epstein, housing, etc...there's this amazing show to start which quickly dwindles over time, only to fall apart.  when it falls apart what happens?  the blame game...the dems, biden, obama, etc.  i get it's been a year, but time to figure this ***** out.

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Who cares? You don't have to take them, any more than you have to take the Warp Speed Covid Vaccine.

 

Or did you fall for that one too?

is this really the best answer you can give?  you want your kids taking out 50 year mortgages and 15 year car loans?   the man who claims he can fix the economy uses this as a solution.  it's insane.  so...why bring up covid?  is that you constant ace in the hole?  guess what?  covid is over.  i'm sure i was hit a lot harder than most of you were, so get over it all ready.  focus on the matter at hand, and fit the country.   ***** covid.  jesus.  

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2 minutes ago, teef said:

it is that hard because that should never be a solution.  i haven't been "angry" towards trump about many things, but this was one of them.  it really just shows us he has no plan...at all.  i'm not sure he has a plan with anything he does.  doge, epstein, housing, etc...there's this amazing show to start which quickly dwindles over time, only to fall apart.  when it falls apart what happens?  the blame game...the dems, biden, obama, etc.  i get it's been a year, but time to figure this ***** out.

 

You shouldn't have voted for him then.

 

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5 minutes ago, JFKjr said:

 

You shouldn't have voted for him then.

 

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you have a very difficult time having a reasonable discussion don't you?  i'm still not upset that i voted for him, but i'm sure not going to approve of every single thing he does because of a side.  have a little independent thought.  it strange that you don't worry about the economy for your kids, but are very concerned about gait analysis.  honestly...which is more important.  see how this is working out?  

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Just now, teef said:

you have a very difficult time having a reasonable discussion don't you?  i'm still not upset that i voted for him, but i'm sure not going to approve of every single thing he does because of a side.  have a little independent thought.  it strange that you don't worry about the economy for your kids, but are very concerned about gait analysis.  honestly...which is more important.  see how this is working out?  

 

Having your kids do well economically means focusing on what the KIDS are doing, not what the ECONOMY is doing.

 

The former is the job for parents, the latter is the job for economists.

 

Nothing wrong with you complaining about it and providing your own analysis of course.

 

 

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1 minute ago, JFKjr said:

 

Having your kids do well economically means focusing on what the KIDS are doing, not what the ECONOMY is doing.

 

The former is the job for parents, the latter is the job for economists.

 

Nothing wrong with you complaining about it and providing your own analysis of course.

 

 

you don't think the state of the future of our kids is based on the economy?  buddy.  it's literally changing how people are making decision concerning careers, family, and future.  i'm not that old, and my starter home was on .35 acres with a one car garage.  i bought it for around 125-130K.  today with no large improvements that same house is 310K.  3 ***** 10.  i walked out of my graduate program with 120k in debt at 2.5 interest.  the same program at the same school now cost 280-300, and i've seen graduate loans in the 8-13% range.  the job market is changing and shrinking.   if you think our kids are going to have it as "easy" as we did, you're completely putting your head in the sand.  we elected people to fix the ECONOMY, yet i don't see any plan in the future to do so.    i don't expect you to have any meaning conversation about this, but we shepherd our kids to be good, intelligent, independent people, but there are some things out of their hands.  why don't you concentrate on that rather than some bull#### excuse about j6.  the keys get jingled and some of you are so easily distracted. 

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10 minutes ago, teef said:

you don't think the state of the future of our kids is based on the economy?  buddy.  it's literally changing how people are making decision concerning careers, family, and future. 

 

I will reiterate that if you want your kids to do well, you focus on your KIDS and their ability to bring value (and thus earn money). Yes they are affected by the economy, but you or I bleating on a message board about it doesn't do anything to change the economy. So you can "focus" on the economy as much as you want.

 

I'll focus on my kids and the skills they're developing, which they'll need no matter what the economy is doing.

 

It's like the difference between focusing on "cancer research" vs personal health habits. Yeah, cancer research matters, but they've got people working on that.

 

YOU need to focus on YOUR health habits.

 

But sure, you keep telling yourself Kamala would've made all the difference.

 

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15 minutes ago, JFKjr said:

 

I will reiterate that if you want your kids to do well, you focus on your KIDS and their ability to bring value (and thus earn money). Yes they are affected by the economy, but you or I bleating on a message board about it doesn't do anything to change the economy. So you can "focus" on the economy as much as you want.

 

I'll focus on my kids and the skills they're developing, which they'll need no matter what the economy is doing.

 

It's like the difference between focusing on "cancer research" vs personal health habits. Yeah, cancer research matters, but they've got people working on that.

 

YOU need to focus on YOUR health habits.

 

But sure, you keep telling yourself Kamala would've made all the difference.

 

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This might be the biggest cop out today. There’s a certain core in here that really doesn’t have the ability to think.  

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Posted
8 minutes ago, teef said:

This might be the biggest cop out today. There’s a certain core in here that really doesn’t have the ability to think.  

 

Logic isn't your strong suit apparently.

 

The Economy awaits your input.

 

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1 hour ago, teef said:

you don't think the state of the future of our kids is based on the economy?  buddy.  it's literally changing how people are making decision concerning careers, family, and future.  i'm not that old, and my starter home was on .35 acres with a one car garage.  i bought it for around 125-130K.  today with no large improvements that same house is 310K.  3 ***** 10.  i walked out of my graduate program with 120k in debt at 2.5 interest.  the same program at the same school now cost 280-300, and i've seen graduate loans in the 8-13% range.  the job market is changing and shrinking.   if you think our kids are going to have it as "easy" as we did, you're completely putting your head in the sand.  we elected people to fix the ECONOMY, yet i don't see any plan in the future to do so.    i don't expect you to have any meaning conversation about this, but we shepherd our kids to be good, intelligent, independent people, but there are some things out of their hands.  why don't you concentrate on that rather than some bull#### excuse about j6.  the keys get jingled and some of you are so easily distracted. 

 

Id say if you want to change things like morgage pricing you have to look into regulations that are suffercating building them. I live in new york and its well known that blue areas are over regulated to the point its worthless to even try without having another half of the building cost set aside for numerous inspection/ permit / survey / enviromental impact groups. This seems like state issues that need the people to address to there leaders, but they wont, because opposing such gov interventions means you are republican. What you want people to live in unsafe homes? What you want to harm the endangered gophers that reside on the building land?

 

When it comes to college i think gov being involved in guaranteed loans is the problem. In that case you would have to start denying people that A) dont seem like a good fit or B) are going into a profession that has zero chance to pay it back. Again i think democrats would lose their minds if there were barriers, logical or not, to denying upper education to people. Its why we have so many usless majors and and prices skyrocket. Supply and demand. Everyone can get in for any reason and its all guarenteed by the gov.

 

As for the economy. I agree its shot. At least tariffing is a way to force people to consider american manufacturing based on price if its effective. It certainly isnt quality of product. That pride went to profit awhile ago. Its definitely isnt a sense of keeping fellow americans buisness and jobs going. Noone cares. Dems are opposing even those rationalities. Everyone wants the cheapest version and who cares  From what i seen from presidents its at least a attempt to push scales in american manufacturing direction. It certainly wasnt NAFTA. So while id like it to be targeted its at least a attempt. 

 

Im 100% with you on 50 year morgages and such being a incredibly lazy way to deal with a issue. Its most likely going to make it worse as people who otherwise could not afford a house jump in to make the market worse with little regard to them never actually buying it. But i didnt hear anything at all from the other side the 4 years they were in power and seems more gov oversight somehow forcing price fixing such as ny mayors gov stores and rent freezes are a way to address the problem which is just as useless and lazy.

 

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1 hour ago, teef said:

you don't think the state of the future of our kids is based on the economy?  buddy.  it's literally changing how people are making decision concerning careers, family, and future.  i'm not that old, and my starter home was on .35 acres with a one car garage.  i bought it for around 125-130K.  today with no large improvements that same house is 310K.  3 ***** 10.  i walked out of my graduate program with 120k in debt at 2.5 interest.  the same program at the same school now cost 280-300, and i've seen graduate loans in the 8-13% range.  the job market is changing and shrinking.   if you think our kids are going to have it as "easy" as we did, you're completely putting your head in the sand.  we elected people to fix the ECONOMY, yet i don't see any plan in the future to do so.    i don't expect you to have any meaning conversation about this, but we shepherd our kids to be good, intelligent, independent people, but there are some things out of their hands.  why don't you concentrate on that rather than some bull#### excuse about j6.  the keys get jingled and some of you are so easily distracted. 

similar story but a few years earlier.  my starter home was 80k in rural MI.  my wife loved a mid century modern that was 120k but we couldn't afford it.  Those houses are worth multiples of that now.  I was about 100k in debt from school.  Paid it off as fast as possible.  But if I were to do it all over again, in this economy, I'd likely choose a different path.  Many are.

Posted
24 minutes ago, Buffarukus said:

 

Id say if you want to change things like morgage pricing you have to look into regulations that are suffercating building them. I live in new york and its well known that blue areas are over regulated to the point its worthless to even try without having another half of the building cost set aside for numerous inspection/ permit / survey / enviromental impact groups. This seems like state issues that need the people to address to there leaders, but they wont, because opposing such gov interventions means you are republican. What you want people to live in unsafe homes? What you want to harm the endangered gophers that reside on the building land?

 

When it comes to college i think gov being involved in guaranteed loans is the problem. In that case you would have to start denying people that A) dont seem like a good fit or B) are going into a profession that has zero chance to pay it back. Again i think democrats would lose their minds if there were barriers, logical or not, to denying upper education to people. Its why we have so many usless majors and and prices skyrocket. Supply and demand. Everyone can get in for any reason and its all guarenteed by the gov.

 

As for the economy. I agree its shot. At least tariffing is a way to force people to consider american manufacturing based on price if its effective. It certainly isnt quality of product. That pride went to profit awhile ago. Its definitely isnt a sense of keeping fellow americans buisness and jobs going. Noone cares. Dems are opposing even those rationalities. Everyone wants the cheapest version and who cares  From what i seen from presidents its at least a attempt to push scales in american manufacturing direction. It certainly wasnt NAFTA. So while id like it to be targeted its at least a attempt. 

 

Im 100% with you on 50 year morgages and such being a incredibly lazy way to deal with a issue. Its most likely going to make it worse as people who otherwise could not afford a house jump in to make the market worse with little regard to them never actually buying it. But i didnt hear anything at all from the other side the 4 years they were in power and seems more gov oversight somehow forcing price fixing such as ny mayors gov stores and rent freezes are a way to address the problem which is just as useless and lazy.

 

good post.  but I don't believe tariffs are going to fix anything.  In fact, they may be illegal.  SCOTUS still considering.

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