A message for Johnson or Paul supporters...

[TakeYouToTasker]

If you think that Romney and Obama will be the same kind of president, vote for a 3rd party. If you think one will be slightly better than the other, you vote for that guy.

No, that's what you do. I have a different standard.

[Doc]

No, that's what you do. I have a different standard.

Well my standard doesn't include up and moving out of the country if I don't get my way. But out of curiousity, where is this Shangri La to where you'd move?

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

Well my standard doesn't include up and moving out of the country if I don't get my way. But out of curiousity, where is this Shangri La to where you'd move?

Aruba is the 15 year plan.

[Oxrock]

http://www.timnerenz.com/2012/11/vote-your-conscience.html

NOVEMBER 04, 2012

 

Vote Your Conscience

 

Regular readers of this column know that I haven’t been blogging for a while; believe it or not there are more important things in life than politics.  But with the election just a couple days out, there is one more thing that needs to be said and then I am going back into hibernation.       

 

For those who have already made up your mind who to vote for Tuesday, I congratulate you and respect your choice, whether it is Mitt Romney, Barack Obama, Gary Johnson or one of the other candidates who appear on ballots in some states.  Every vote is a vote of conscience and no vote is wasted on Tuesday as long as you own it on Wednesday. 

 

I frankly don’t know how anyone could still be undecided after $2 billion of ads and 18 months of campaigning; that is like not knowing if you are gay or straight 3 days before prom after watching porn all winter.  

 

But if you have not yet made up your mind how to vote, may I respectfully suggest that you vote for Mitt Romney. 

 

And I say that not as a Republican, because I am not one; nor as a Romney guy, because I am not one of those either; and not even as a libertarian because he is not one of us.  It is the suggestion of a businessperson with a pretty good grasp of what the effects of an Obama re-election will have on small to medium-sized firms – the ones who provide the majority of jobs in this country and whose owners pay the lions’ share of taxes.  The big dogs like GE and Goldman Sachs win no matter what; they’d get theirs even if Vlad the Impaler wins on a write-in.   

 

But the rest of us have to earn our way in this world.  There is no reason not to believe President Obama when he says he will allow the tax increases on business owners to go into effect January 1, will proceed with the next round of national health care mandates, will further restrict energy production, and will use sequestration as the means to cut DoD procurement.  Those policies are the four horses of the economic apocalypse.   

 

And there is also no reason not to believe the brave business owners who have come out and told us how they will be forced to respond to those higher imposed costs - by reducing headcount, cutting back hours, scaling back pension and retirement contributions, paring or eliminating health care benefits altogether, consolidating operations, and shifting capital investment and job creation to countries with more favorable tax and regulatory climates. 

 

It is disgraceful that they have been savaged for telling the truth.  If the media was not so obsessed with Big Bird and the fictional Anne Romney’s War on Herself, they might have noticed that 2012 has been a record year for small and mid-size businesses being sold or liquidated.  Atlas is already shrugging, people; and it will get much worse under Obama Part Dieux.    

 

Moving investment to a more favorable climate is not a Democrat thing or a Republican thing or a Libertarian thing, it is a rational economic decision that will be made by rational people with a business education and decades of experience.  For those who might never have had an economics of business course let me explain the problem in simple terms:     

 

Your boyfriend kicks me in the nuts repeatedly.  I tell you that if he keeps it up, I will have to buy a cup to protect myself and then there will be no money for your tiara, Princess.  You blame me for ruining your prom, mom tells you I am an insensitive racist jerk and you both vote to keep your boyfriend…and increase your allowance…and buy prophylactics for law students with very expensive purses.  Majority wins, he keeps kicking my nuts, so I go buy the cup and you don’t go to prom, pouting like a Kardashian on a budget.    

 

That - well something like it - is what we are trying to avoid, here.   

 

When weatherman Al Roker told us what would happen when Hurricane Sandy made landfall, did anyone go running to the DA to press charges?  Did the NAACP sue him for prejudicial remarks?  Did any union target his business for retribution or threaten his family?   Is anyone blaming Al Roker for the devastation in New York and New Jersey, or clamoring to ban him from speaking ever again?   

 

Well, I’m not Al Roker, I can’t force you to do anything, and I wouldn’t presume to tell you how you should vote; I am merely making a suggestion to those who might still be undecided.  And by the way, regardless of who you choose for President, you should look down-ticket to find some outstanding Libertarian candidates for other offices.  In Wisconsin, you can send your message with Kexel, Deschler, Maas, and Ehlers, to name a few.      

 

Here’s what won’t change on Tuesday, regardless of who we select as our next President:  the European debt crisis, the damage from the hurricane, the global economic downturn, upheaval in the middle east, yawning budget deficits, the unfunded pension and retirement systems around the country, 23 million Americans out of work, the economic ascension of China, and Ben Bernanke devaluating our currency by $40 billion each month.  If President Obama was the best person to confront that list, there would be no list…except for the hurricane damage.    

 

As much as it pains me to say it, neither Gary Johnson nor Ron Paul is going to be our next President of the United States.  And neither is Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, Superman, Jesus, Aaron Rodgers, or the Good Witch of the North.  Our next President will be either Mitt Romney or Barack Obama – pick one.

 

And remember who comes along for the ride - Biden, Clinton, Geithner, Holder, Panetta, Salazar, Sebelius, Solis, Duncan, LaHood, Chu, Napolitano (the wrong one), Rice,  2 more Supreme Court Justices likely, dozens of federal judges, and the whole fleet of federal prosecutors.  Do you trust your liberty in their hands?  Not me.     

 

The libertarian’s second biggest fear is that Romney won’t do what he says; but our biggest fear is that Obama will.  Romney wins…by a landslide.          

 

 

“Moment Of Clarity” is a weekly commentary by Libertarian writer and speaker Tim Nerenz, Ph.D.  Visit Tim’s website www.timnerenz.com to find your moment. 

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Edited November 5, 2012 by Oxrock

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

 

If the republicans were interested in the libertarian or Paul vote they would have given Ron Paul a speaking slot at the convention.

I'm speaking to the abandonment and violation of Party Convention rules, the unseating and decertification of Paul Delegates, and the outright refusal to allow a floor vote. Edited November 5, 2012 by TakeYouToTasker

[TakeYouToTasker]

Let this resonate with Republicans:

 

Your old model is dead. Your insistence on marginalizing libertarians cost your country dearly tonight. Where do you go?

[dayman]

Let this resonate with Republicans:

 

Your old model is dead. Your insistence on marginalizing libertarians cost your country dearly tonight. Where do you go?

 

There's going to be civil war in the GOP and what comes from the ashes will be more libertarian in all likelihood

[OCinBuffalo]

Let this resonate with Republicans:

 

Your old model is dead. Your insistence on marginalizing libertarians cost your country dearly tonight. Where do you go?

 

Boy you can say that again. If the vaunted evangelists haven't delivered Oh for Romney? When they could have had a reasonable platform on social issues, but for these people?

 

But, it's better to wait an hour to see WTF is really going on with OH.

[TakeYouToTasker]

Ron Paul won tonight.

[Chilly]

I've come to the same conclusion. I would rather vote for Gary Johnson but I live in Virginia, so I'll suck it up and take one for America

 

Hows it feel contributing to the Republicans loss?

[dayman]

Ron Paul won tonight.

 

IDK about that but the social conservative lost the senate and presidency tonight. So they may be done. In which case all benefit.

[Shoutbox]

There's going to be civil war in the GOP and what comes from the ashes will be more libertarian in all likelihood

 

That would be great for the country. We need at least one of the two major parties to actually represent small government.

[Oxrock]

There you go. You've got your wish. I'm not happy about it, but understand it. I'm a libertarian conservative myself.

[/dev/null]

Hows it feel contributing to the Republicans loss?

 

My conscience would feel clearer if I had voted for GJ but the result is the same. GJ didn't get near 5% of the national vote to impact 2014 or 2016

[Shoutbox]

My conscience would feel clearer if I had voted for GJ but the result is the same. GJ didn't get near 5% of the national vote to impact 2014 or 2016

 

But by Libertarian Party standards, he did extremely well:

 

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/gary-johnson-ran-most-successful-libertarian-campaign-party-193500973--politics.html

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Unfortunately the LP came along too late in our country's history. People NEED the government now more than they WANT it. Hard to cut of an infant from its mother's teat. Hard to cut of Americans from the teat that sustains them, too.

[Mr. WEO]

Ron Paul won tonight.

 

So when does your space ship depart (for "Aruba")?

[TakeYouToTasker]

So when does your space ship depart (for "Aruba")?

Clever (not really). As I've stated several times before, the time table for expatriation is 15 years, when I'm roughly 51 years old.

 

And yes, Ron Paul won a huge victory Tuesday night, as it was demonstrated that the current Republican model and strategy has failed. The incumbent was eminently beatable, yet voter turnout was underwhelming. Conservatives have rejected the Republican Party. If Republicans wish to win any more elections they will need to appeal to the growing demographic of American's who are socially liberal, but desire smaller, less intrusive government and fiscal conservatism. That's Ron Paul's base.

[Mr. WEO]

Clever (not really). As I've stated several times before, the time table for expatriation is 15 years, when I'm roughly 51 years old.

 

And yes, Ron Paul won a huge victory Tuesday night, as it was demonstrated that the current Republican model and strategy has failed. The incumbent was eminently beatable, yet voter turnout was underwhelming. Conservatives have rejected the Republican Party. If Republicans wish to win any more elections they will need to appeal to the growing demographic of American's who are socially liberal, but desire smaller, less intrusive government and fiscal conservatism. That's Ron Paul's base.

 

Ron Paul's base seems unaware of his extreme positions on race and gay Americans, among others--or they buy his lame denials that the newsletters written for 2 decades in his name and without anyone else in a byline were written by him.

 

Here is Ron Paul in the 80's -90's (from The Weekly Standard/The New Republic/CBS):

“Order was only restored in L.A. when it came time for the blacks to pick up their welfare checks,”

 

Martin Luther King Jr., “the world-class philanderer who beat up his paramours,” had also “seduced underage girls and boys.”

 

One newsletter reported on the heretofore unknown phenomenon of “Needlin’,” in which “gangs of black girls between the ages of 12 and 14” roamed the streets of New York and injected white women with possibly HIV-infected syringes.

 

on the subject of the 1993 World Trade Center attack, concluded, “Whether it was a setup by the Israeli Mossad, as a Jewish friend of mine suspects, or was truly a retaliation by the Islamic fundamentalists, matters little.”

 

Ed Crane, the president of the Cato Institute, said Paul told him that “his best source of congressional campaign donations was the mailing list for the Spotlight, the conspiracy-mongering, anti-Semitic tabloid run by the Holocaust denier Willis Carto.”

 

 

In a January 2010 speech, Paul announced, “There’s been a coup, have you heard? It’s the CIA coup” against the American government. “They’re in businesses, in drug businesses,” the congressman added.

[TakeYouToTasker]

Ron Paul's base seems unaware of his extreme positions on race and gay Americans, among others--or they buy his lame denials that the newsletters written for 2 decades in his name and without anyone else in a byline were written by him.

 

Here is Ron Paul in the 80's -90's (from The Weekly Standard/The New Republic/CBS):

Even if true, which I find to be quite unlikely as his authorship seems to have been both denied and debunked years ago, those views are irrelevant.

 

Dr. Paul himself is retireing from public service at the end of his term. What is left behind are the core values I mentioned earlier, which he has championed, leading to a truely organic groundswell of grassroots libertarian conservatism.