Catmanjax Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I wonder if the Bills see what great tight ends can do in big games? Need a good qb and stud playmakers on D. Easy to say, I guess too hard for us to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) It would be nice but besides the Bills having bigger needs, these ultra tight ends are hard to come by. There's only about 5-6 of these guys in the NFL. I don't know if there are any in this year's draft but I haven't heard that there is. Guys like Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis don't come out every year. Edited January 15, 2012 by San Jose Bills Fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symbiant Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I'd settle for anyone that can catch and hold balls in traffic. Would make a gunslinger like Fitz look a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I'd settle for anyone that can catch and hold balls in traffic. Would make a gunslinger like Fitz look a lot better. Well if that's all you want, the Bills have an above-average tight end in Scott Chandler. I thought the OP was talking about these elite, gifted tight ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It would be nice but besides the Bills having bigger needs, these ultra tight ends are hard to come by. There's only about 5-6 of these guys in the NFL. I don't know if there are any in this year's draft but I haven't heard that there is. Guys like Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis don't come out every year. And they will be terribly overdrafted now. Graham was a lot of luck. His senior year of college was first year of football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Most under rated position in football IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catmanjax Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Lots of good ones. The second game has 2 we passed on. Hard to get them sounds like hard to win in the NFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 It would be nice but besides the Bills having bigger needs, these ultra tight ends are hard to come by. There's only about 5-6 of these guys in the NFL. I don't know if there are any in this year's draft but I haven't heard that there is. Guys like Jimmy Graham and Vernon Davis don't come out every year. They sure seem to lately (Hernandez, Gronk, Graham...). Who saw them coming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Lots of good ones. The second game has 2 we passed on. Hard to get them sounds like hard to win in the NFL Name the good tight ends in the NFL. I would bet that maybe 1 in 4 teams has a difference-making tight end. The Bills problem (if you want to complain about something) is not that they don't have a good tight end… it's that they only have one good wide receiver. An elite tight end is a luxury… especially if you don't have good wide receivers. If the Bills had Megatron playing opposite Stevie Johnson, there would be no conversation about tight ends. It would be nice if the Bills had an elite tight end. I'm a bit more worried about pass rusher, wide receiver... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I'd take an elite TE over an elite WR. Can involve them in more plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catmanjax Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 I would rather have a great tight end for the Bills withFitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I'd take an elite TE over an elite WR. Can involve them in more plays I would rather have a great tight end for the Bills withFitz I hear ya. We have a good one in Chandler. I don't know if there's any elite ones available in the draft this year but I haven't heard there's one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 An elite tight end is a luxury… especially if you don't have good wide receivers. TE's carry teams w/ out WRs. Pats. 49ers. That's just today. It's well known a QB's best friend is a dominate TE. And Chandler is not a dominate TE. He is average. It's the truth. Average gets TDs/first downs form time to time and that's what Chandler does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I gotta be honest.....i think chandler is a solid TE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Jose Bills Fan Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 TE's carry teams w/ out WRs. Pats. 49ers. That's just today. It's well known a QB's best friend is a dominate TE. Well that's only two teams which strengthens my point. In the vast majority of the NFL, teams rely on wide receivers in the passing game and if you have a great tight end who contributes, it's a luxury. As to your other point, we already have a security blanket/QB's best friend type tight end in Chandler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I hear ya. We have a good one in Chandler. I don't know if there's any elite ones available in the draft this year but I haven't heard there's one. Other thing is elite TE can co-exist better with elite WR. My concern about getting stacked at WR is they start biatching all the time about not getting the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marauderswr80 Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I like chandler! He would be even better with another solid wr opposite of johnson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayman Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 Other thing is elite TE can co-exist better with elite WR. My concern about getting stacked at WR is they start biatching all the time about not getting the ball What? Who the hell would biatch about getting the ball on this team? That's the last concern I would have for us. And as for just using those two teams...there are many other teams. Basically any time a top tier TE comes around he finds a way to be his QBs greatest asset. I mean I'm thinking of the top TE's today (Gronk, Witten, Davis (today anyway...but he is inconsistent), Gonzalez for years, Gates when healthy (and he has a good WR on his team)...etc Basically Dallas Clark is one of the few top guys that merely plays his role when the time comes and that's just b/c Peyton sees the entire field like nobody else. If you have a super all-star QB than can see the D before they even move then it's not so huge but for all mortal QBs there is NOTHING better. Certainly not a WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catmanjax Posted January 15, 2012 Author Share Posted January 15, 2012 Still satisfied w Chandler? Not the same thing as the top guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 I gotta be honest.....i think chandler is a solid TE!!! Well that's only two teams which strengthens my point. In the vast majority of the NFL, teams rely on wide receivers in the passing game and if you have a great tight end who contributes, it's a luxury. As to your other point, we already have a security blanket/QB's best friend type tight end in Chandler. Solid? Security blanket? The guy has been injured twice already, despite being a huge guy with very low miles on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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