Thailog80 Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 ESPN is reporting that Vick has agreed in principle to a 10 year /100 million dollar deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 ESPN is reporting that Vick has agreed in principle to a 10 year /100 million dollar deal. 175840[/snapback] Congrats Atlanta, welcome to salary cap hell. I believe I heard it would be a $40 million signing bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I don't know if I'd want him for 10 years. There's something about him I don't like. I know everyone's on his bandwagon but I just don't care for those kind of QB's that run more than pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerjamhead Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I think it's $37M in guaranteed money. Sounds like they were just trying to trump Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis in NC Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 They should re-do Peerless as well, give him more Christmas dollars!!! What the heck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Actually very few people seem to be on his bandwagon around here. Considering this is his second full season and he's taking his team to the playoffs AGAIN. Why isn't he worth it? 11-3 record? 24-11-1 record as a starter? He's a winner folks. He may not be the prototypical QB but he's a winner. And as far as salary cap hell? The Falcons are currently one of the best run franchises in terms of cap management. Arthur Blank has turned the franchise around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Actually very few people seem to be on his bandwagon around here. Considering this is his second full season and he's taking his team to the playoffs AGAIN. Why isn't he worth it? 11-3 record? 24-11-1 record as a starter? He's a winner folks. He may not be the prototypical QB but he's a winner. And as far as salary cap hell? The Falcons are currently one of the best run franchises in terms of cap management. Arthur Blank has turned the franchise around. 175871[/snapback] It's a little early for that. I'm very curious to see how his career pans out. I have a feeling he's not going to be around anywhere close to 10 years with the number and ferocity of hits he takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tux of Borg Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Vick reminds me of Randall Cunningham. Good, but will never win a superbowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailog80 Posted December 23, 2004 Author Share Posted December 23, 2004 It's a little early for that. I'm very curious to see how his career pans out. I have a feeling he's not going to be around anywhere close to 10 years with the number and ferocity of hits he takes. 175887[/snapback] I agree............with the hits he takes he'll never see ten years in the NFL. Look at Steve McNair at 31 he's a shell of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I agree............with the hits he takes he'll never see ten years in the NFL. Look at Steve McNair at 31 he's a shell of a player. 175908[/snapback] They certainly add up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I agree............with the hits he takes he'll never see ten years in the NFL. Look at Steve McNair at 31 he's a shell of a player. 175908[/snapback] But, both of you are assuming he's going to be out a lot for the remainder of his career. You have two options. Lock up Vick long term and roll the dice or let him go and sign someone else who more than likely isn't going to have the impact Vick would. Now, the Falcons have Vick for his career. Let's not forget, the guy is 24 and this is his second system. He's only going to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Let's not forget, the guy is 24 and this is his second system. He's only going to get better. 175937[/snapback] For the money they signed him to, he'd better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Its business too. Vick sells a LOT of merchandise....people do pay to see him....business wi$e it makes sense for the Falcons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Its business too. Vick sells a LOT of merchandise....people do pay to see him....business wi$e it makes sense for the Falcons. 176002[/snapback] I'm sure that factors into it. I was strictly looking at it from the football side, where he is extremely overrated at this point in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I'm sure that factors into it. I was strictly looking at it from the football side, where he is extremely overrated at this point in his career. 176016[/snapback] Overrated???? He's playing with the same team that went 2-10 without him last year. 2-10. He comes back last year and they go 3-1 to finish the season. This year with the same core of players they go 11-3. But, he's overrated b/c you think his individual stats aren't up to snuff??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Overrated???? He's playing with the same team that went 2-10 without him last year. 2-10. He comes back last year and they go 3-1 to finish the season. This year with the same core of players they go 11-3. But, he's overrated b/c you think his individual stats aren't up to snuff??? 176027[/snapback] No, he's overrated because I've watched him play. There are 3 big factors in their record: 1. The head coaching change. 2. The hiring of Alex Gibbs to coach the offensive line (sound familiar?). 3. Their schedule. I've said before that stats don't mean much but Vick's as overrated a QB as anyone out there. As usual, QBs get either too much credit or too much blame. Take the former in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantrules Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 No, he's overrated because I've watched him play. There are 3 big factors in their record: 1. The head coaching change. 2. The hiring of Alex Gibbs to coach the offensive line (sound familiar?). 3. Their schedule. I've said before that stats don't mean much but Vick's as overrated a QB as anyone out there. As usual, QBs get either too much credit or too much blame. Take the former in this case. 176042[/snapback] Schedule arguement is absolute garbage. The NFL makes the calander not the Falcons. We don't deserve to be 8-6 either if the Falcs don't deserve to be 11-3. Vick has been sacked 44 times. 44 times! Alex Gibbs must be teaching those boys a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyemike Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 I agree, Vick is not a prototype QB. But I would make this contract move as well, if I were Arthur Blank. Vick's gotta be at the top of the NFL merchandise list. He's the most exciting player in the league. ANYTHING can happen when he touches the ball. The Falcons are 11-3. With TO out, I think Atlanta is now the favorite in the NFC. What happens if Michael Vick leads the Falcons to their second Super Bowl in seven years? I think they can actually win the whole enchilada. Right now. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 He is not worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 23, 2004 Share Posted December 23, 2004 Schedule arguement is absolute garbage. The NFL makes the calander not the Falcons. We don't deserve to be 8-6 either if the Falcs don't deserve to be 11-3. Vick has been sacked 44 times. 44 times! Alex Gibbs must be teaching those boys a lot. 176054[/snapback] Thanks for using statistics to prove your argument. I prefer the 169.6 YPG and 5.1 YPC they are leading the NFL with (Vick certainly adds to that though) than the product of Vick not being able to read a defense and holding the ball too long. The late fumble last week that the Falcons luckily recovered because Vick didn't know where to throw the ball was an excellent example. Taking advantage of teams you should beat is the mark of good coaching. Don't misunderstand the point. They also went from last in the NFL in total defense to the top 10, which I'm sure has nothing to do with their record and everything to do with Michael Vick. Of course, Mora is known for defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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