....lybob Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Again, What the !@#$ are you talking about? And please don't just repeat the same thing again. pregnancy starts with implantation not conception Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 let's throw another wrench in the works! if you believe abortion is immoral (and i actually do) do you believe that the death penalty is immoral? isn't all life precious and to be protected? wouldn't it be logically inconsistent and indefensible to argue otherwise? Come on, man. You're smarter than this, aren't you? You have to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Come on, man. You're smarter than this, aren't you? You have to be. did you find thomas aquinas or pope john paul ii stupid. see, now i actually am pontificating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 let's throw another wrench in the works! if you believe abortion is immoral (and i actually do) do you believe that the death penalty is immoral? isn't all life precious and to be protected? wouldn't it be logically inconsistent and indefensible to argue otherwise? The problem with your argument(s) is that you're making an assumptive leap of faith that many people feel abortion is immoral because all life is precious and needs to be protected. That may be your case, but that doesn't make it universally so. To that end, what did the fetus do to deserve the death penalty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdog1960 Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 certainly all people do not believe that all life is precious....many terrible villains immediately come to mind. i do however feel that reasonable, rational people do believe that all life precious. i therefore stand by that premise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
....lybob Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 let's throw another wrench in the works! if you believe abortion is immoral (and i actually do) do you believe that the death penalty is immoral? isn't all life precious and to be protected? wouldn't it be logically inconsistent and indefensible to argue otherwise? The right wing of the Board (find all life precious?) lets see Follow Jainism umm No Vegans umm No Environmentalist- No Against Hunting- No Against Animal experiments- No Well maybe they they find all Human life precious Against the Death penalty- NO Against War -NO Care about collateral damage- NO Care about work safety violations that cause deaths- NO Care about pollution that cause deaths- NO Care if any one dies from hypothermia due to lack heat- No Care about deaths from lack of access to healthcare- No Well maybe they find the very young and innocent lives precious Cared about Sanctions causing increases in infant mortality -No Cared about Miscarriages/birth defects caused by spent uranium-NO Cared that bombing infrastructure caused increases in infant mortality-No Care that high pollution levels increase miscarriages - No Support any type of nutrition programs for pregnant women or infants-No Care about fetuses if a women doesn't want to carry it- Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Come on, man. You're smarter than this, aren't you? You have to be. I guess not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveinElma Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 it's not hypocritical, if you believe that government intervention can be a good thing. that's the starting point for many progressives. The government has a constitutional obligation to protect life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsidethebox Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 if you don't see a conflict between less government and legislating anti abortion activities by doctors then you are either willfully or inherently ignorant. it doesn't require taking a side on this actual issue to see this obvious point. You just pick and choose what is best for everyone. This country is so lucky to have someone like you telling everyone what is good for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary M Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The right wing of the Board (find all life precious?) lets see Follow Jainism umm No - no idea what that is Vegans umm No - animals are not people Environmentalist- No - very much so Against Hunting- No - animals are not people Against Animal experiments- No - Yes I am to a pointt. Well maybe they they find all Human life precious Against the Death penalty- NO Actually I am starting to lean that way Against War -NO - defense no offensive Care about collateral damage- NO YES Care about work safety violations that cause deaths- NO - yes within reason Care about pollution that cause deaths- NO - WHAT???? Care if any one dies from hypothermia due to lack heat- No angain WHAT???? Care about deaths from lack of access to healthcare- No - there is no lack of access to heathcare, just a way to pay for it. Well maybe they find the very young and innocent lives precious Cared about Sanctions causing increases in infant mortality -No Cared about Miscarriages/birth defects caused by spent uranium-NO Cared that bombing infrastructure caused increases in infant mortality-No Care that high pollution levels increase miscarriages - No you are kinding right Support any type of nutrition programs for pregnant women or infants-No I am all for breast feeding, Care about fetuses if a women doesn't want to carry it- Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 The government has a constitutional obligation to protect life. Doesn't the government have a constitutional obligation to protect a person's right to choose their own medical procedures? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Doesn't the government have a constitutional obligation to protect a person's right to choose their own medical procedures? Please tell me you are a conservative masquerading as a liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 Please tell me you are a conservative masquerading as a liberal. hahaha. I am more conservative than people think. To many all democrats are far left liberals. Not the case here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Booster4324 Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 hahaha. I am more conservative than people think. To many all democrats are far left liberals. Not the case here. You are making a spectacular argument by the way. Pity you do not realize what you are arguing against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pBills Posted May 27, 2011 Share Posted May 27, 2011 You are making a spectacular argument by the way. Pity you do not realize what you are arguing against. Not arguing any point simply saying there are many sides to this issue. Which one trumps the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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