cåblelady Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 They seem jovial enough. 152620[/snapback] Fa La La La La......La La La La. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_BiB_ Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I'm sorry to admit that I don't remember what I was doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted December 8, 2004 Share Posted December 8, 2004 I'm sorry to admit that I don't remember what I was doing. 152646[/snapback] You were getting ready to go buy me a Christmas present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndmanley Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 That is great news. If James leaves, then Indy will need a running back. The Bills may be able to move Travis and get decent value (I hope for a 1st round pick but realize a 2nd would be probably the best we could expect). TH has a cap friendly contract. He would fit perfectly into the Colts, who will need cap relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Um did anyone miss the fact that ALL of peyton Mannings bonus goes against THIS years cap? It was done as a ROSTER bonus....not a signing bonus. ALL of the cap hit from his 17 or so mill Bonus is on THIS years cap. Indy will have plenty of cap room to sign Edge AND some defensive players. Bill polian is still the man. TD wishes he was 1/2 the GM Polian is 152624[/snapback] Are you sure about this, ICE? From this article, http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7135789 , Manning's singing bonus is 34.5 million and his cap hit this year is only 8.3 million. This truth is, Manning's singing bonus and guaranteed roster bonuses are divied through 7 years wihch is about 5 million per year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 That is great news. If James leaves, then Indy will need a running back. The Bills may be able to move Travis and get decent value (I hope for a 1st round pick but realize a 2nd would be probably the best we could expect). TH has a cap friendly contract. He would fit perfectly into the Colts, who will need cap relief. 152653[/snapback] Travis would fit perfectly? Well, yeah. Except in the required football skills part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Travis would fit perfectly? Well, yeah. Except in the required football skills part of it. 152660[/snapback] True, but life in Indy just might be slow enough for him to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman's Helmet Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Until Indy starts addressing things on the defensive side of the ball, they'll be singing the same old song and dance every year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Are you sure about this, ICE? From this article, http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/7135789 , Manning's singing bonus is 34.5 million and his cap hit this year is only 8.3 million. This truth is, Manning's singing bonus and guaranteed roster bonuses are divied through 7 years wihch is about 5 million per year. 152654[/snapback] I remember them making a huge deal about a 17 mill cap hit somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guest Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I remember them making a huge deal about a 17 mill cap hit somewhere. 152702[/snapback] Maybe you're thinking about the A.Winfield deal, which only has roster bonus.( 10.8 million ) and no singing bonus. No Colts player has cap hit more than 10 million this year though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB2004 Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Colts | Harrison Agrees to 7-Year Extension - from www.KFFL.comWed, 8 Dec 2004 14:00:50 -0800 ESPNews reports Indianapolis Colts WR Marvin Harrison has agreed to a seven-year, $66 million deal that includes a $22 million signing bonus. 152507[/snapback] That's a move they had to make. It was a good time for it. Manning will have several more years to throw to his favorite target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Adams Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 It just means that you can put $66 million down for the river that the colts will be the laughingstock of the NFL in about 8 years. Can you say cap hell? 152517[/snapback] You don't get the NFL. The only part of an NFL contract that is guaranteed is the signing bonus. If Harrison stinks next year, they cut him and the Colts are out of the deal except for the bonus. This contract insures Harrison will be a Colt for as long as they want to keep him. Nothing more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark VI Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 It just means that you can put $66 million down for the river that the colts will be the laughingstock of the NFL in about 8 years. Can you say cap hell? 152517[/snapback] Seems to me they have 25 % of their cap tied up in 2 players ( Manning, Harrison) . So Indy will never be able to invest in D to compete deep into the playoffs. Indy better take a good run at the SB THIS year. Looks bleak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCCEO Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 I remember them making a huge deal about a 17 mill cap hit somewhere. 152702[/snapback] The 17 million cap hit is the hit they would have taken if Manning had not resigned and rather simply played out the year as the "franchise" player. Everyone made a big deal about it but then right before free agency started he signed that absurd contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 aaaaaaaaaah I knew I heard 17 mill somewhere. Either way Polian is still the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Indy will have plenty of cap room to sign Edge AND some defensive players. Bill polian is still the man. TD wishes he was 1/2 the GM Polian is 152624[/snapback] Not entirely sure about that. Has Polian won any superbowls yet ? It doesn't help to make your team good enough to storm into the playoffs and lose. I agree that getting to the playoffs is something we wish we could. But mind you - TD did get the Steelers to the playoffs also. Polian is good but don't proclaim that he is any less or more than what TD is. I remember you ranting that Butler put us in cap hell and cursed him no end for that. So what makes you a Polian fan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Not entirely sure about that. Has Polian won any superbowls yet ? It doesn't help to make your team good enough to storm into the playoffs and lose. I agree that getting to the playoffs is something we wish we could. But mind you - TD did get the Steelers to the playoffs also. Polian is good but don't proclaim that he is any less or more than what TD is. I remember you ranting that Butler put us in cap hell and cursed him no end for that. So what makes you a Polian fan ? 153180[/snapback] Polian built the 4x Superbowl Bills...NOT BUTTler. BUTTler took over that team. In addition Polian built a Carolina team that made the NFC Championship in their 2nd year. BTW...Indy has started making the playoffs just about every year since Polian has been there. And TD's record is what again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Polian built the 4x Superbowl Bills...NOT BUTTler. BUTTler took over that team. In addition Polian built a Carolina team that made the NFC Championship in their 2nd year. BTW...Indy has started making the playoffs just about every year since Polian has been there. And TD's record is what again? 153189[/snapback] TIMMUH! TIM-MUH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICE Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 TIMMUH!TIM-MUH!!!! 153201[/snapback] Tim TIMMUH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 9, 2004 Share Posted December 9, 2004 Polian built the 4x Superbowl Bills...NOT BUTTler. BUTTler took over that team. In addition Polian built a Carolina team that made the NFC Championship in their 2nd year. BTW...Indy has started making the playoffs just about every year since Polian has been there. And TD's record is what again? 153189[/snapback] You fell for my hook - he built the superbowl VISITING Bills and that is my point. In the final analysis, Polian has not done anything more or less than TD except visited a few more SB's. I do share one of your thought - we want to win a SB and nothing less will do. Given that, Polian has not done that so TD is in no way half the GM that Polian is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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