NaPolian8693 Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) Ralph may have been cheap at different times with coaches and/or front office management. However, he is not cheap when it comes to players. Here are the NFL team payrolls from 2009: New York Giants $ 137,638,866 Miami Dolphins $ 126,855,921 Houston Texans $ 122,573,860 New Orleans Saints $ 121,552,424 Chicago Bears $ 120,672,110 New York Jets $ 120,168,770 Pittsburgh Steelers $ 119,604,460 Arizona Cardinals $ 116,701,866 San Diego Chargers $ 115,264,155 Green Bay Packers $ 114,597,569 Carolina Panthers $ 112,738,038 Buffalo Bills $ 111,956,066 Oakland Raiders $ 111,527,250 Baltimore Ravens $ 109,200,157 Tennessee Titans $ 109,025,090 San Francisco 49ers $ 107,746,232 Washington Redskins $ 105,049,071 Jacksonville Jaguars $ 103,558,989 Philadelphia Eagles $ 102,490,815 Denver Broncos $ 102,043,735 Indianapolis Colts $ 101,203,115 Minnesota Vikings $ 99,806,040 New England Patriots $ 97,565,413 Detroit Lions $ 95,963,320 Atlanta Falcons $ 95,492,002 Cincinnati Bengals $ 94,591,308 Cleveland Browns $ 93,932,182 Dallas Cowboys $ 90,650,939 Seattle Seahawks $ 89,075,820 Tampa Bay Buccaneers $ 84,501,322 Kansas City Chiefs $ 83,187,156 St. Louis Rams $ 62,384,821 The trouble is not that the Bills wont spend on free agents, its that no one want to come to Buffalo, and you have to overpay mediocre players just to get anyone at all in free agency. Also notice that the Bills spend more than Dan Snyder and the Redskins, and also more than the Patriots and Colts (despite their monster QB contracts). Also notice how little the Cowboys actually spend. Edited September 29, 2010 by NaPolian8693 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanInLV Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Incredible! These stats are far from where I 'thought' they were. They must be false! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET1062 Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Is water wet? Is the Pope Catholic? Is the sky blue? Is Obama a Socialist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Is water wet? Is the Pope Catholic? Is the sky blue? Is Obama a Socialist? Obama isn't a Socialist.....never mind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 (edited) Obama isn't a Socialist.....never mind.... hahahahahahahahahahahaha ok. Edited September 29, 2010 by Joe In Macungie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthICE Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Yes he is cheap. I always see his defenders come rushing to the front with the Bills players salaries and I have to LMAO at the pure ignorance. For the 5 billionth time, THE TV CONTRACTS PAY THE SALARIES!!!! There did caps help you? I remember back when Fan TV was still on and Chris Speilman had some chick call in and talk **** about 'we pay your salaries' blah blah blah'. He refrenced the CBA ver batum, article, page whatever and said 'No mam, do the research the TV contracts pay the Salaries, owners are NOT on the hook for them'. It has been in articles all over the place in past history, esp when Ralph wouldn't pay John Butler what he was worth and JB said 'screw you old man' with his last draft and bolted to San Diego. It made it out back then that Ralph has NEVER put a premium on a front office. He got Polian on the cheap because he promoted him. He got Marv on the cheap bringing him in when he did. Ralph Wilson has always felt he can just go get anybody to GM and Coach his teams, his history dictates that. Honestly, If Bill Polian hadn't been 'Bill friggin Polian' and been the genius he is, where would this team have been? I guarantee you Marv Levy NEVER makes the HOF if Bill P hadn't surrounded him with a team that had at least 5 HOF players on it and multiple probowlers at one time. Why was Polian really fired? My old source that I had way back when said two reasons. 1. Yeah he called Ralphs daughter a bad word and as my source said 'She deserved it'. 1A. Jeffery Litman. That SOB is even more frugal than Ralph which is why Ralph has him. Remember BP got fired about the time Free agency really got started. Why? Jeff wouldn't pay too keep/ bring in players. Bill told them it had to be done, layed out how they were going to have to spend to get quality players or keep their own. Pffft! PAY? are you kidding me? So that ended the BP era and started our downward spiral to becoming the worst ran team in football AGAIN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 The trouble is not that the Bills wont spend on free agents, its that no one want to come to Buffalo, and you have to overpay mediocre players just to get anyone at all in free agency. That's kind of a chicken or the egg situation. Maybe if they had a competent organization that had the feel of a top flight organization then the free agent problem would fix itself. Before they were bought by Robert Kraft and he made a commitment to winning, how many free agents do you think wanted to go to New England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Yes he is cheap. I always see his defenders come rushing to the front with the Bills players salaries and I have to LMAO at the pure ignorance. For the 5 billionth time, THE TV CONTRACTS PAY THE SALARIES!!!! There did caps help you? I remember back when Fan TV was still on and Chris Speilman had some chick call in and talk **** about 'we pay your salaries' blah blah blah'. He refrenced the CBA ver batum, article, page whatever and said 'No mam, do the research the TV contracts pay the Salaries, owners are NOT on the hook for them'. It has been in articles all over the place in past history, esp when Ralph wouldn't pay John Butler what he was worth and JB said 'screw you old man' with his last draft and bolted to San Diego. It made it out back then that Ralph has NEVER put a premium on a front office. He got Polian on the cheap because he promoted him. He got Marv on the cheap bringing him in when he did. Ralph Wilson has always felt he can just go get anybody to GM and Coach his teams, his history dictates that. Honestly, If Bill Polian hadn't been 'Bill friggin Polian' and been the genius he is, where would this team have been? I guarantee you Marv Levy NEVER makes the HOF if Bill P hadn't surrounded him with a team that had at least 5 HOF players on it and multiple probowlers at one time. Why was Polian really fired? My old source that I had way back when said two reasons. 1. Yeah he called Ralphs daughter a bad word and as my source said 'She deserved it'. 1A. Jeffery Litman. That SOB is even more frugal than Ralph which is why Ralph has him. Remember BP got fired about the time Free agency really got started. Why? Jeff wouldn't pay too keep/ bring in players. Bill told them it had to be done, layed out how they were going to have to spend to get quality players or keep their own. Pffft! PAY? are you kidding me? So that ended the BP era and started our downward spiral to becoming the worst ran team in football AGAIN. Spielman is and was wrong. TV contracts roughly contribute 2/3 of revenue and players take home about that in salary. However, there is nothing that says the players' salaries are tied to tv contract $$ directly. SO yes fans can pay a player's salary. Read the CBA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Yes he is cheap, and petty, and meddling. Explain to me why Langston Walker was cut last year. Not why he was demoted - why he was cut. I'm waiting for an explanation. Because that move, IMO, perfectly encapsulates the kind of cheapness that pervades OBD. They'd rather save a couple million bucks even if it means signficantly jeopardizing their depth and experience at a key position. Again, I get why he was demoted. But until someone gives me a credible explanation for outright releasing him, I'll stick to my opinion that Ralph is indeed a penny-pinching SOB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 Spielman is and was wrong. TV contracts roughly contribute 2/3 of revenue and players take home about that in salary. However, there is nothing that says the players' salaries are tied to tv contract $$ directly. SO yes fans can pay a player's salary. Read the CBA The fans cover the team's operating margin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Gun Special Posted September 29, 2010 Share Posted September 29, 2010 The fans cover the team's operating margin. you can just as easily say the tv contract and revenue sharing does. The money isnt tied up like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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