Sisyphean Bills Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 How about the Magic "College Draft" 8 Ball? http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi Less issues with P.E.T.A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 You may be right, however, I have to ask if Modrak has any self respect, working in such a system? Wouldn't it bother you to be blamed for picking all these stiffs, knowing you weren't responsible? So I guess you assume he reads TSW and cares what we say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 4. What set us back was not bringing in a real GM after Tom Donahoe was fired. Blame Ralph for that. Ralph will not hire someone that he does not know. Ralph hired Levy and Brandon to fill the GM position and then he hired Nix. They collectively deserve more blame than Modrak in my opinion. I definitely agree...But that still does not make Modrak a decent Head Scout. Unless he was standing on the table screaming for Orakpo, or Ngata, or whoever when the Bills made these horrible decisions...I doubt that happened...In fact I think anyone the Bills Drafted over these years came with a pretty glowing review from the Head Scout...Especially the one's Drafted high...So I would not take him off the hook either... How about the Magic "College Draft" 8 Ball? http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi Less issues with P.E.T.A. Oh boy...I asked "Will the Bills ever win a Super Bowl?" And I swear to God it came back..."No way." Sorry about that Kids... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 One way the front office could appease ANGRY and FRUSTRATED fans like myself would be to fire Tom Modrak. I would feel much better about the season if I knew he wouldn't be around to screw up our top 5 pick next year (and the important top-37 pick in the second round, etc.) I understand a lot of people on this Board like to defend Modrak*, but the guy has been in charge of our drafts since 2002**. As Mark Gaughan explained, he was the one pulling the names off of the board from 2006-2009. He only has a job because Ralph likes him personally. Why not show you "GET" that our problems stem from drafting futility by eliminating the guy most responsible for it? * the arguments generally put forward by defenders of Modrak are some variant on 3 themes: (1) he was not the head man in the personnel department so it's not right to blame him; (2) he is a respected NFL personnel man who had great success with the Eagles and we're lucky to have a man of his stature; and (3) I personally was not in the "war room" when the decisions were made so even though Tom Modrak is in charge of all college scouting, ranks players at each position, and provides detailed analysis of all potential draft picks, the fact that drafts have sucked for 10 years is not his fault because someone else may have overruled him on several occasions. For responses to these rather inane arguments, see my posts on the following threads: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/114991-tom-modrak-must-go-%26/ http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/113534-some-facts-about-tom-modrak/ In the same article when Gaughan said Modrak was pulling the names off the board from 2006 to 2009, he also said that Dick Jauron was in control for the Whitner over Ngata pick and the Maybin pick. Strange how you forgot to mention that part of the article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San-O Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 I definitely agree...But that still does not make Modrak a decent Head Scout. Unless he was standing on the table screaming for Orakpo, or Ngata, or whoever when the Bills made these horrible decisions...I doubt that happened...In fact I think anyone the Bills Drafted over these years came with a pretty glowing review from the Head Scout...Especially the one's Drafted high...So I would not take him off the hook either... Oh boy...I asked "Will the Bills ever win a Super Bowl?" And I swear to God it came back..."No way." Sorry about that Kids... I asked it if should go down the street to Bubba Kahuna's to have a beer before the game. Same answer: No way. Maybe it's broken. Ask it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Modrak is head of scouting. If its his fault he should be fired. If it was Levy/Dickie/Sasquatches fault, then Modrak should quit because no one listens to him. All I know is, if I were head of scouting, I would have created such a **** storm in that draft room when they wanted to pick Maybin that they would have either fired me or I would have quit. No way I would want my name anywhere near that obvious bust of a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Fire Modrak & ban anyone that defends him, that's what you call win-win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EC-Bills Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 In the same article when Gaughan said Modrak was pulling the names off the board from 2006 to 2009, he also said that Dick Jauron was in control for the Whitner over Ngata pick and the Maybin pick. Strange how you forgot to mention that part of the article. He also like to conveniently ignore John Wawrow's input (you know, someone who actually knows people at OBD) on things in the Tom Modrak Upside? thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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