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and the Bills have gone backward over the past four seasons. what's your point?

 

i'm not following any trend. you conveniently cherry pick a stat by comparing the two franchises from 2004 and note the Bills have a better record since then. well, that's fine and dandy. though you leave out the fact that the Dolphins actually won the AFC East during that time while the Bills have not and now going on their third coach.

as for my contention that the Dolphins are vying for the division title this season, well, just look at their track record and talent: they have two solid running backs. they've added a proven wide receiver to add a new dimension. and Chad Henne went 7-6 as a first-time starter last year. in fact, the Dolphins were in contention right through December. the Bills were not and, rather, were mired in the midst of another coaching change.

 

by comparison, the Bills added C.J. Spiller to an offense that's been among the NFL's worst over the past seven years. and they're making a huge transition to a 3-4 defense with a front-7 that had difficulty stopping the run. let's not forget the Bills 11 times gave up 150 or more yards rushing last season.

 

based on that, there stands a better chance for the Dolphins to be competitive than the Bills in this division.

jw

 

There you go John. The highlighted sentence above is reasonable. However you start out with this false and ridiculous sentence "and the Bills have gone backward over the past four seasons. what's your point?" The Dolphins have gone 1-15, 11-5, and 7-9 the last three years - the Bills have gone 7-9, 7-9, and 6-10 respectively. For you this clearly shows the Dolphins are light years ahead of the Bills, and for me it creates a debate.

 

If you're not understanding my point by now, then it's hardly likely you will. you are clearly your own problem. You are cherry picking your own thoughts while condemning me for doing the same.

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There you go John. The highlighted sentence above is reasonable. However you start out with this false and ridiculous sentence "and the Bills have gone backward over the past four seasons. what's your point?" The Dolphins have gone 1-15, 11-5, and 7-9 the last three years - the Bills have gone 7-9, 7-9, and 6-10 respectively. For you this clearly shows the Dolphins are light years ahead of the Bills, and for me it creates a debate.

 

If you're not understanding my point by now, then it's hardly likely you will. you are clearly your own problem. You are cherry picking your own thoughts while condemning me for doing the same.

John, that's why they play the games. You have an unproven QB, a suspect defense with no pass rush, one running back who is 33 years old and the other who can't keep from being injured. Also, that offense you run up there in Miami is no longer a surprise to defenses around the NFL. I expect Miami to win no more than 5 games and finish dead last in the AFC East. About the rivalry being gone; that will happen when two teams stink it up as long as the Dolphins and Bills have. Buffalonian at heart---->I agree with everything you said, you hit on the facts where as John just jumped on the bandwagon!!!

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John, that's why they play the games. You have an unproven QB, a suspect defense with no pass rush, one running back who is 33 years old and the other who can't keep from being injured. Also, that offense you run up there in Miami is no longer a surprise to defenses around the NFL. I expect Miami to win no more than 5 games and finish dead last in the AFC East. About the rivalry being gone; that will happen when two teams stink it up as long as the Dolphins and Bills have. Buffalonian at heart---->I agree with everything you said, you hit on the facts where as John just jumped on the bandwagon!!!

except for the 33-year-old runnning back part, i didn't know if you were refering to the Bills or the Dolphins. ... Miami is no longer a surprise to defenses? and the Bills are?

 

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except for the 33-year-old runnning back part, i didn't know if you were refering to the Bills or the Dolphins. ... Miami is no longer a surprise to defenses? and the Bills are?

 

jw

 

I always considered you level headed, you're sounding more and more like another Bills hating writer. Just bashing them at every chance you get whether it makes sense or not. You are awfully disappointing. I actually enjoyed the debate until I read this post. Now you're just being biased no matter the content, and you are proving my entire point to the board. Thumbs down man.

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except for the 33-year-old runnning back part, i didn't know if you were refering to the Bills or the Dolphins. ... Miami is no longer a surprise to defenses? and the Bills are?

 

jw

I'm not saying Buffalo is a great team by any means, so don't get me wrong. I just don't see how you think the Dolphins are going to compete with the Jets/Pats in this division and assume Buffalo will be the 4th place finisher. It's a total toss up between the Bills and the Dolphins for last place in the division "most likely". This first game might tell us a lot about the direction of the two teams. I think a coach can make a major difference for a team and thus far Chan Gailey is doing a nice job, but we'll see if that translates to wins on Sundays.

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I always considered you level headed, you're sounding more and more like another Bills hating writer. Just bashing them at every chance you get whether it makes sense or not. You are awfully disappointing. I actually enjoyed the debate until I read this post. Now you're just being biased no matter the content, and you are proving my entire point to the board. Thumbs down man.

yes, that's right. i hate the bills and am awfully disappointing because my opinion differs from your own.

they are a wonderful team that has been the model of NFL efficiency and success for too many years to count, and are destined to make the playoffs for a professional sports record 50th season, and vye for yet another Super Bowl appearance. in fact, commissioner Roger Goodell has recently considered to rename the Lombardi as "The Buffalo Bills Trophy," because of the franchise's utter and unblemished dominance.

this, after all, is a team that's unquestionably led the NFL in offense and defense for decades, and it's remarkable how they've been able to maintain that consistency with one coach and while drafting no better than 28th all these years.

the Halls at Canton have been painted in Bills colors, and there's a standing buffalo on every corner.

 

:blink:

 

ok, now, back in the real world, where teams that don't make the playoffs for 10 years, go through 5 coaches, 4 GMs, countless quarterbacks, have one winning record since 1999, are going with a patchwork offensive line, have made a major transformation on defense, have questions at quarterback and no established No. 2 receiver are among those who are -- for reasons outlined -- not given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to preseason projections.

 

you are a fan. you think this team will be good. fantastic.

i am a sports writer, who has followed this team now going on 11 years.

i actually do believe the Bills have a chance to play a more entertaining game and show glimpses of significant imrpovement over last year (consider that a compliment despite how disfunctional last year was).

 

and let me be clear:

-- i am not the one who spraypainted McKelvin's lawn.

-- i am not the one, as some here have, advocated the owner's demise.

-- i am not the one who's questioned and criticized Tom Modrak's draft record by instead noting those picks do not all fall on him.

-- i was not the one who criticized the Bills for hiring Chan Gailey, when many on this board went bonkers because it wasn't Cowher or Shanahan.

 

right, but i am the one who, as you put it, "bashes" this team every chance i get. please, provide me one iota of proof that i have been unfair in my coverage, in which i've ceaselessly written negative articles that lack objectivity and foresight or any semblance of originality to suggest that i'm some sort of bandwagon jumper.

 

so please, go ahead and dismiss me because i choose to be an individual and mysteriously have a point of view that differs from yours.

if that's the case, let me join the large crowd of people who i'm guessing have disappointed you.

 

jw

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Why do people keep reading this guy's articles (sullivan) and then posting them which gives him more traffic and thus ensures his job? Stop reading bad writers articles if you don't want them to write anymore.

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yes, that's right. i hate the bills and am awfully disappointing because my opinion differs from your own.

they are a wonderful team that has been the model of NFL efficiency and success for too many years to count, and are destined to make the playoffs for a professional sports record 50th season, and vye for yet another Super Bowl appearance. in fact, commissioner Roger Goodell has recently considered to rename the Lombardi as "The Buffalo Bills Trophy," because of the franchise's utter and unblemished dominance.

this, after all, is a team that's unquestionably led the NFL in offense and defense for decades, and it's remarkable how they've been able to maintain that consistency with one coach and while drafting no better than 28th all these years.

the Halls at Canton have been painted in Bills colors, and there's a standing buffalo on every corner.

 

:blink:

 

ok, now, back in the real world, where teams that don't make the playoffs for 10 years, go through 5 coaches, 4 GMs, countless quarterbacks, have one winning record since 1999, are going with a patchwork offensive line, have made a major transformation on defense, have questions at quarterback and no established No. 2 receiver are among those who are -- for reasons outlined -- not given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to preseason projections.

 

you are a fan. you think this team will be good. fantastic.

i am a sports writer, who has followed this team now going on 11 years.

i actually do believe the Bills have a chance to play a more entertaining game and show glimpses of significant imrpovement over last year (consider that a compliment despite how disfunctional last year was).

 

and let me be clear:

-- i am not the one who spraypainted McKelvin's lawn.

-- i am not the one, as some here have, advocated the owner's demise.

-- i am not the one who's questioned and criticized Tom Modrak's draft record by instead noting those picks do not all fall on him.

-- i was not the one who criticized the Bills for hiring Chan Gailey, when many on this board went bonkers because it wasn't Cowher or Shanahan.

 

right, but i am the one who, as you put it, "bashes" this team every chance i get. please, provide me one iota of proof that i have been unfair in my coverage, in which i've ceaselessly written negative articles that lack objectivity and foresight or any semblance of originality to suggest that i'm some sort of bandwagon jumper.

 

so please, go ahead and dismiss me because i choose to be an individual and mysteriously have a point of view that differs from yours.

if that's the case, let me join the large crowd of people who i'm guessing have disappointed you.

 

jw

excellent rebuttal :thumbsup:

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yes, that's right. i hate the bills and am awfully disappointing because my opinion differs from your own.

they are a wonderful team that has been the model of NFL efficiency and success for too many years to count, and are destined to make the playoffs for a professional sports record 50th season, and vye for yet another Super Bowl appearance. in fact, commissioner Roger Goodell has recently considered to rename the Lombardi as "The Buffalo Bills Trophy," because of the franchise's utter and unblemished dominance.

this, after all, is a team that's unquestionably led the NFL in offense and defense for decades, and it's remarkable how they've been able to maintain that consistency with one coach and while drafting no better than 28th all these years.

the Halls at Canton have been painted in Bills colors, and there's a standing buffalo on every corner.

 

:blink:

 

ok, now, back in the real world, where teams that don't make the playoffs for 10 years, go through 5 coaches, 4 GMs, countless quarterbacks, have one winning record since 1999, are going with a patchwork offensive line, have made a major transformation on defense, have questions at quarterback and no established No. 2 receiver are among those who are -- for reasons outlined -- not given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to preseason projections.

 

you are a fan. you think this team will be good. fantastic.

i am a sports writer, who has followed this team now going on 11 years.

i actually do believe the Bills have a chance to play a more entertaining game and show glimpses of significant imrpovement over last year (consider that a compliment despite how disfunctional last year was).

 

and let me be clear:

-- i am not the one who spraypainted McKelvin's lawn.

-- i am not the one, as some here have, advocated the owner's demise.

-- i am not the one who's questioned and criticized Tom Modrak's draft record by instead noting those picks do not all fall on him.

-- i was not the one who criticized the Bills for hiring Chan Gailey, when many on this board went bonkers because it wasn't Cowher or Shanahan.

 

right, but i am the one who, as you put it, "bashes" this team every chance i get. please, provide me one iota of proof that i have been unfair in my coverage, in which i've ceaselessly written negative articles that lack objectivity and foresight or any semblance of originality to suggest that i'm some sort of bandwagon jumper.

 

so please, go ahead and dismiss me because i choose to be an individual and mysteriously have a point of view that differs from yours.

if that's the case, let me join the large crowd of people who i'm guessing have disappointed you.

 

jw

 

 

jw, we want you to pump us up with the most sugarcoated, one sided, completely biased fictional and non fictional Bills propaganda you kind find,

 

so get with the program buddy :nana:

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yes, that's right. i hate the bills and am awfully disappointing because my opinion differs from your own.

they are a wonderful team that has been the model of NFL efficiency and success for too many years to count, and are destined to make the playoffs for a professional sports record 50th season, and vye for yet another Super Bowl appearance. in fact, commissioner Roger Goodell has recently considered to rename the Lombardi as "The Buffalo Bills Trophy," because of the franchise's utter and unblemished dominance.

this, after all, is a team that's unquestionably led the NFL in offense and defense for decades, and it's remarkable how they've been able to maintain that consistency with one coach and while drafting no better than 28th all these years.

the Halls at Canton have been painted in Bills colors, and there's a standing buffalo on every corner.

 

:blink:

 

ok, now, back in the real world, where teams that don't make the playoffs for 10 years, go through 5 coaches, 4 GMs, countless quarterbacks, have one winning record since 1999, are going with a patchwork offensive line, have made a major transformation on defense, have questions at quarterback and no established No. 2 receiver are among those who are -- for reasons outlined -- not given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to preseason projections.

 

you are a fan. you think this team will be good. fantastic.

i am a sports writer, who has followed this team now going on 11 years.

i actually do believe the Bills have a chance to play a more entertaining game and show glimpses of significant imrpovement over last year (consider that a compliment despite how disfunctional last year was).

 

and let me be clear:

-- i am not the one who spraypainted McKelvin's lawn.

-- i am not the one, as some here have, advocated the owner's demise.

-- i am not the one who's questioned and criticized Tom Modrak's draft record by instead noting those picks do not all fall on him.

-- i was not the one who criticized the Bills for hiring Chan Gailey, when many on this board went bonkers because it wasn't Cowher or Shanahan.

 

right, but i am the one who, as you put it, "bashes" this team every chance i get. please, provide me one iota of proof that i have been unfair in my coverage, in which i've ceaselessly written negative articles that lack objectivity and foresight or any semblance of originality to suggest that i'm some sort of bandwagon jumper.

 

so please, go ahead and dismiss me because i choose to be an individual and mysteriously have a point of view that differs from yours.

if that's the case, let me join the large crowd of people who i'm guessing have disappointed you.

 

jw

 

 

Your sarcasm is a weak attempt at salvaging a weak argument. This response is nothing but rhetoric and you know it. Let me go real slow for you John, you obviously have issues with paying attention. I never once said that the Bills were an organization to emulate, never. I have very clearly only been comparing the Bills and the Dolphins. Who have been given a biased pass on being better than the Bills over the last decade. I'm submitting they're not.

 

Just because little Johnnie got his feelings hurt doesn't mean he should take things off on other tangents. Don't convolve the topic or start making fun of me personally just because you can't handle someone having a different opinion than you. You're an angry little guy, there's nothing wrong with having a debate and not taking it so personal. And for a little while we were having a good debate.

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There you go John. The highlighted sentence above is reasonable. However you start out with this false and ridiculous sentence "and the Bills have gone backward over the past four seasons. what's your point?" The Dolphins have gone 1-15, 11-5, and 7-9 the last three years - the Bills have gone 7-9, 7-9, and 6-10 respectively. For you this clearly shows the Dolphins are light years ahead of the Bills, and for me it creates a debate.

 

If you're not understanding my point by now, then it's hardly likely you will. you are clearly your own problem. You are cherry picking your own thoughts while condemning me for doing the same.

You started out in your first post with a ridiculous premise. "The Dolphins are the joke of the AFC East." According to who? No one but you? This discussion has been basically about the last decade. The Dolphins have been to the playoffs three times in the last ten years and came very close two others, they have won the division twice. They have had a better record and they're thought of by most everyone to be better than the Bills this year. I think the Bills will beat them on Sunday but I wouldn't at all bet we finish ahead of them in the division and I don't think they are any good.

 

Now you just sound petty and snippy.

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Your sarcasm is a weak attempt at salvaging a weak argument. This response is nothing but rhetoric and you know it. Let me go real slow for you John, you obviously have issues with paying attention. I never once said that the Bills were an organization to emulate, never. I have very clearly only been comparing the Bills and the Dolphins. Who have been given a biased pass on being better than the Bills over the last decade. I'm submitting they're not.

how? based on what premise? that they've made the playoffs fewer times than the Bills? that they haven't won the AFC East, most recently as two years ago? in an upside down world you are perfectly correct.

 

Just because little Johnnie got his feelings hurt doesn't mean he should take things off on other tangents. Don't convolve the topic or start making fun of me personally just because you can't handle someone having a different opinion than you. You're an angry little guy, there's nothing wrong with having a debate and not taking it so personal. And for a little while we were having a good debate.

wha? as Kelly The Fair and Balanced pointed out, you've based your argument on the suggestion that the Dolphins are the joke of the AFC East. ... ummm, no (is that unconvolving enough for you?)

 

jw

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You started out in your first post with a ridiculous premise. "The Dolphins are the joke of the AFC East." According to who? No one but you? This discussion has been basically about the last decade. The Dolphins have been to the playoffs three times in the last ten years and came very close two others, they have won the division twice. They have had a better record and they're thought of by most everyone to be better than the Bills this year. I think the Bills will beat them on Sunday but I wouldn't at all bet we finish ahead of them in the division and I don't think they are any good.

 

Now you just sound petty and snippy.

 

I can see where I'd come off being snippy and admittedly Wawrow is good at agitating. I actually think the Dolphins have performed better than the Bills, but the margin isn't as big as the perception. For instance they haven't had a better record from 2004 to present, although they have had higher spikes of success. They've certainly had their share of coaching and ownership changes, that to me have shown as much dis-function as the Bills have had. My gosh Cam Cameron fired after one year, Nick Saban and that whole fiasco. Yet they go virtually unscathed of criticism from guys like Wawrow.

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I can see where I'd come off being snippy and admittedly Wawrow is good at agitating. I actually think the Dolphins have performed better than the Bills, but the margin isn't as big as the perception. For instance they haven't had a better record from 2004 to present, although they have had higher spikes of success. They've certainly had their share of coaching and ownership changes, that to me have shown as much dis-function as the Bills have had. My gosh Cam Cameron fired after one year, Nick Saban and that whole fiasco. Yet they go virtually unscathed of criticism from guys like Wawrow.

i don't cover the Dolphins. and i'm pretty sure during their 1-15 season i scathed them when they came up to play here.

that said, they certainly went unscathed after their win at Toronto. ...

as for spikes of success, i'm pretty certain long-suffering Bills fans would go for one of those spikes here (and i'm not referring to Takeo, though, i'm sure to your disappointment, i liked him).

 

jw

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i don't cover the Dolphins. and i'm pretty sure during their 1-15 season i scathed them when they came up to play here.

that said, they certainly went unscathed after their win at Toronto. ...

as for spikes of success, i'm pretty certain long-suffering Bills fans would go for one of those spikes here (and i'm not referring to Takeo, though, i'm sure to your disappointment, i liked him).

 

jw

 

I didn't say you cover the Dolphins. But you have had an opportunity to justifiably criticize them in this thread, and you won't do it. You've chosen to only malign the Bills. Hence my aggravation with writers such as yourself. So you're pretty sure you scathed them when they played us when they were 1-15, but don't feel it necessary to comment on their slipping from 11-5 to 7-9, winning only one more game than the Bills? Oh that's right you have them contending for the division this year.

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I didn't say you cover the Dolphins. But you have had an opportunity to justifiably criticize them in this thread, and you won't do it. You've chosen to only malign the Bills. Hence my aggravation with writers such as yourself. So you're pretty sure you scathed them when they played us when they were 1-15, but don't feel it necessary to comment on their slipping from 11-5 to 7-9, winning only one more game than the Bills? Oh that's right you have them contending for the division this year.

 

Everyone knew they were a bit lucky in '08, which was why they were a home underdog in the wildcard round. A monkey could've predicted their huge jump in wins would be followed by a step back; just like Atlanta. Parcells' Patriots team did the same thing before they went to the SB (no I'm not predicting Miami to get there this year). It doesn't mean they aren't headed in the right direction. Just stop embarrassing yourself.

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I didn't say you cover the Dolphins. But you have had an opportunity to justifiably criticize them in this thread, and you won't do it. You've chosen to only malign the Bills. Hence my aggravation with writers such as yourself. So you're pretty sure you scathed them when they played us when they were 1-15, but don't feel it necessary to comment on their slipping from 11-5 to 7-9, winning only one more game than the Bills? Oh that's right you have them contending for the division this year.

If anyone needed further explanation as to why I stopped posting here, parts of this thread should provide more than enough proof. Disagreeing with a column is fine; everyone's entitled to an opinion. But that doesn't mean I'm obligated to stick around to read personal attacks on someone most of you have never met. Courtesy of a friend, my sig says it all: "People here can't or won't separate the reporter from the person, coverage from character. It's juvenile and gets to be too much."

 

Two notes:

When I gave Mike the link, he was especially amused by the "This writer is a moron and I would guess that he won't last in this town much longer" line, considering he's a Canisius grad who's been working for The News since 1987.

 

As for JW covering the Dolphins, I present the lede from his 2007 gamer:

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- The Miami Dolphins are so bad that even their division rivals, the Buffalo Bills, are starting to feel sorry for them.

 

Safety Donte Whitner, of course, wasn't sympathetic until after the Bills completed a 38-17 rout Sunday, handing Miami its 13th straight defeat to start the season, and 16th straight dating to last year.

 

"I was talking to Booker out there, and he was saying, 'Man, I don't know what it feels like to win in this league, yet,' " Whitner said, referring to Dolphins rookie running back Lorenzo Booker. "And I said, 'You know, don't stress over it. ... Things are going to get better.' "

 

Not any time soon by the way things look.

 

There once was a time when Miami could at least keep scores respectable, losing six times by three points. The Dolphins (0-13), coming off a 40-13 loss to the Jets last weekend, can't even do that now, and have moved within one loss of matching the NFL record for worst start to a season.

 

And it's not out of the question for them to become the first team to go winless in a 16-game campaign, surpassing Tampa Bay's 0-14 record as an expansion team in 1976.

 

One more thing before I go: condolences to the News sports department on the loss of longtime writer and editor Bob Summers, who passed away late Saturday night.

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If anyone needed further explanation as to why I stopped posting here, parts of this thread should provide more than enough proof. Disagreeing with a column is fine; everyone's entitled to an opinion. But that doesn't mean I'm obligated to stick around to read personal attacks on someone most of you have never met. Courtesy of a friend, my sig says it all: "People here can't or won't separate the reporter from the person, coverage from character. It's juvenile and gets to be too much."

 

Two notes:

When I gave Mike the link, he was especially amused by the "This writer is a moron and I would guess that he won't last in this town much longer" line, considering he's a Canisius grad who's been working for The News since 1987.

 

As for JW covering the Dolphins, I present the lede from his 2007 gamer:

 

 

One more thing before I go: condolences to the News sports department on the loss of longtime writer and editor Bob Summers, who passed away late Saturday night.

Nice post -- and my condolences to the Summer family. It's a shame he couldn't enjoy his retirement.

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yes, that's right. i hate the bills and am awfully disappointing because my opinion differs from your own.

they are a wonderful team that has been the model of NFL efficiency and success for too many years to count, and are destined to make the playoffs for a professional sports record 50th season, and vye for yet another Super Bowl appearance. in fact, commissioner Roger Goodell has recently considered to rename the Lombardi as "The Buffalo Bills Trophy," because of the franchise's utter and unblemished dominance.

this, after all, is a team that's unquestionably led the NFL in offense and defense for decades, and it's remarkable how they've been able to maintain that consistency with one coach and while drafting no better than 28th all these years.

the Halls at Canton have been painted in Bills colors, and there's a standing buffalo on every corner.

 

:blink:

 

ok, now, back in the real world, where teams that don't make the playoffs for 10 years, go through 5 coaches, 4 GMs, countless quarterbacks, have one winning record since 1999, are going with a patchwork offensive line, have made a major transformation on defense, have questions at quarterback and no established No. 2 receiver are among those who are -- for reasons outlined -- not given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to preseason projections.

 

you are a fan. you think this team will be good. fantastic.

i am a sports writer, who has followed this team now going on 11 years.

i actually do believe the Bills have a chance to play a more entertaining game and show glimpses of significant imrpovement over last year (consider that a compliment despite how disfunctional last year was).

 

and let me be clear:

-- i am not the one who spraypainted McKelvin's lawn.

-- i am not the one, as some here have, advocated the owner's demise.

-- i am not the one who's questioned and criticized Tom Modrak's draft record by instead noting those picks do not all fall on him.

-- i was not the one who criticized the Bills for hiring Chan Gailey, when many on this board went bonkers because it wasn't Cowher or Shanahan.

 

right, but i am the one who, as you put it, "bashes" this team every chance i get. please, provide me one iota of proof that i have been unfair in my coverage, in which i've ceaselessly written negative articles that lack objectivity and foresight or any semblance of originality to suggest that i'm some sort of bandwagon jumper.

 

so please, go ahead and dismiss me because i choose to be an individual and mysteriously have a point of view that differs from yours.

if that's the case, let me join the large crowd of people who i'm guessing have disappointed you.

 

jw

 

Are the sensitive fanatic fans aware that your view corresponds to 95%-98% of the NFL analysts/sportswriters? Your assessment is certainly not outside of the norm, it is simply the norm. The hardcore and stoneheaded fans who are inflating the talent level on this team are the ones far outside the bell curve. Your reporting on the Bills is fair and diplomatically tame.

 

I believe the Bills are going to beat the Phins in the opening game. If that happens the "True Believers" are going to be ready to pounce on the so called "realists". As the season advances and the team's vulnerabilities are exposed the fanatics will become quieter and will steadily fade away.

 

The Bills are a few years away from catching up to the middle of the pack. What is so obvious to me is very outside the realm of believability for a segment of the population who don't realize that they are inhabiting the fringe position. They will soon learn that success is based on the talent level of a team and not on wishful thinking.

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