mpl6876 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Most ridicules post I've seen here in awhile I wish you would have expanded on why you think the post is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I wish you would have expanded on why you think the post is ridiculous. Anybody that understands the game of football doesn't need me to expand on it. Looks like I have a minute before I take off, times have changed since Archie manning played, maybe back then a good QB could carry a team, nowadays its virtually impossible without good coaching/scheming to succeed and then you take the protection away its just not happening. Defenses are to sophisticated to go at it without proper coaching if you want to win football games. In my humble opinion anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpl6876 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Anybody that understands the game of football doesn't need me to expand on it. Good copout... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Good copout... OH well, some folks work for a living... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpl6876 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Anybody that understands the game of football doesn't need me to expand on it. Looks like I have a minute before I take off, times have changed since Archie manning played, maybe back then a good QB could carry a team, nowadays its virtually impossible without good coaching/scheming to succeed and then you take the protection away its just not happening. Defenses are to sophisticated to go at it without proper coaching if you want to win football games. In my humble opinion anyway. Hey dog, I think you didn't understand his post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGB Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Bill Walsh did not know that TE would have two concussions early in his career and would be shell-shocked into capt. check-down mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ieatcrayonz Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Bill Walsh did not know that TE would have two concussions early in his career and would be shell-shocked into capt. check-down mode. He was also evidently unable to determine that Trent had sucked at every level of football and sucked with Buffalo before the concussions. Brian Moorman and a cornerback had the winning production before Trent's Arizona concussion. You can either believe Walsh was stupid or go with the theory of Occum's shaver and realize we had a practical joke pulled on us. A practical joke is a practical joke. When you are the victim you accept the laughter and move on. Walsh put one over on Marv. There is no reason for this to be the gift of laghter that keeps on giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynical Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Bill Walsh did not know that TE would have two concussions early in his career and would be shell-shocked into capt. check-down mode. Thus proving Bill Walsh was no better than anybody else at predicting how well a player would perform at the NFL level. Nobody has the capacity to predict how a player will react psychologically when they face adversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbillyfootballcoach Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Anybody that understands the game of football doesn't need me to expand on it. Looks like I have a minute before I take off, times have changed since Archie manning played, maybe back then a good QB could carry a team, nowadays its virtually impossible without good coaching/scheming to succeed and then you take the protection away its just not happening. Defenses are to sophisticated to go at it without proper coaching if you want to win football games. In my humble opinion anyway. NOPE! the guy was actually right on. just look at aarron rogers, or other guys who play good under pressure, TE played like garbage always, hes never shown any flashes of talent. The best anyone can say is "5 and 1, 5 and 1, oh yes yes 5 and 1. SO those were typical dump off games where they beat weak teams. Once teams realised thats all he did, hes never been even slightly successful. You really dont get it. Its his fault, he sucks period and when he gets a good oline and system, he will look average at best. Thats what u want? A guy who needs everything perfect to be average? Ill take 25 other starters right now over TE, who isnt better right now than him? the guys i wouldnt take are just equally bad, not worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbillyfootballcoach Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Bill Walsh did not know that TE would have two concussions early in his career and would be shell-shocked into capt. check-down mode. he always checked down always go look at ll his first games, losman never would, thats why it worked....for a while Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpl6876 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 NOPE! the guy was actually right on. just look at aarron rogers, or other guys who play good under pressure, TE played like garbage always, hes never shown any flashes of talent. The best anyone can say is "5 and 1, 5 and 1, oh yes yes 5 and 1. SO those were typical dump off games where they beat weak teams. Once teams realised thats all he did, hes never been even slightly successful. You really dont get it. Its his fault, he sucks period and when he gets a good oline and system, he will look average at best. Thats what u want? A guy who needs everything perfect to be average? Ill take 25 other starters right now over TE, who isnt better right now than him? the guys i wouldnt take are just equally bad, not worse. Hey, I heard dicks sporting goods has trent edwards uniforms for sale. I just thought you may be interested in picking one up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 NOPE! the guy was actually right on. just look at aarron rogers, or other guys who play good under pressure, TE played like garbage always, hes never shown any flashes of talent. The best anyone can say is "5 and 1, 5 and 1, oh yes yes 5 and 1. SO those were typical dump off games where they beat weak teams. Once teams realised thats all he did, hes never been even slightly successful. You really dont get it. Its his fault, he sucks period and when he gets a good oline and system, he will look average at best. Thats what u want? A guy who needs everything perfect to be average? Ill take 25 other starters right now over TE, who isnt better right now than him? the guys i wouldnt take are just equally bad, not worse. We have one QB in the NFL who flies by the seat of his pants and makes plays on the run/ gets sacked allot, Aaron Rodgers. Last I checked there is only one Aaron Rodgers. Most of the successful QB's like the Romo's and the Brady's have some of the best coaching in the league and most of them also have decent protection. So unless you want to clone Aaron Rodgers I hardly see what he does for your argument and Rodgers coaching and protection haven't been near as bad as TE's in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 +1. Dick and concussions create a big if, but I wholeheartedly believe he has the talent and brains to be successful in this league. Not sure if too much damage is done already, but I'm sure hoping not, and that Chan can work some magic. The offensive line woes are not Dick Jaurons's fault. That falls to Brandon, Donahoe, Butler and Koufax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreakPop Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 We have one QB in the NFL who flies by the seat of his pants and makes plays on the run/ gets sacked allot, Aaron Rodgers. Last I checked there is only one Aaron Rodgers. Most of the successful QB's like the Romo's and the Brady's have some of the best coaching in the league and most of them also have decent protection. So unless you want to clone Aaron Rodgers I hardly see what he does for your argument and Rodgers coaching and protection haven't been near as bad as TE's in my opinion. bbilly is absolutely right. You just don't get it and never will dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hey Hey Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Walsh and Marv were buds from back in the day. Walsh was a notorious practical joker. Walsh told Marv to draft a particular Glove Wearing Mary from Los Gatos. Said Glove Wearing Mary from Los Gatos has spent 3 years stinking up the joint and blaming everyone else. You do the math. That glove wearing Mary has the worst line in the league and no one to throw to besides Lee. Wouldn't you check down if you had 2 damn seconds to throw the ball. Let him play in front of a competent line before we deem him Mary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 That glove wearing Mary has the worst line in the league and no one to throw to besides Lee. Wouldn't you check down if you had 2 damn seconds to throw the ball. Let him play in front of a competent line before we deem him Mary. Fitz had the same line TE did and he didn't feel the need to check down all the time. Neither did BB in his one start. In fact, Fitz set the record for the longest TD pass in Bills history, 98 yards. Sure, our line hasn't been good, but to say TE can't do better because of them is a weak cop out excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 bbilly is absolutely right. You just don't get it and never will dog. Oh I get it, I Get that some folks have this silly notion a QB can be successful without any help. I get it that folks like you think TE's a bad QB, but what do you know, Chan Gailey seems to think TE has potential, Let me see here, who should I believe, you are Chan Gailey, I think I'll go with Chan Gailey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 We have one QB in the NFL who flies by the seat of his pants and makes plays on the run/ gets sacked allot, Aaron Rodgers. Last I checked there is only one Aaron Rodgers. Most of the successful QB's like the Romo's and the Brady's have some of the best coaching in the league and most of them also have decent protection. So unless you want to clone Aaron Rodgers I hardly see what he does for your argument and Rodgers coaching and protection haven't been near as bad as TE's in my opinion. Brady made Belichick, not the other way around. Belichick was dead man walking if Bleedslow hadn't gotten himself nearly killed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 Brady made Belichick, not the other way around. Belichick was dead man walking if Bleedslow hadn't gotten himself nearly killed. I used to think that myself until Belicheat took a nobody that hadn't started since High School and won 10 games in the NFL with him.(10-6) Tom Brady is an excellent QB, but he wouldn't have won Championships without Belicheat in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Man Posted August 9, 2010 Share Posted August 9, 2010 I can't believe anyone would try to rally support for this QB. What happened to the promises from that fossil Wilson that we were going to get a good GM ( Buddy Nix...not), a good coach ( Chan Galey....not) and God willing a proven quality QB....NOT More of the same with a whole bunch of built in excuses for defeat already. I.E. New 3-4 players in positions they have never played before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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