The Big Cat Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Where does Kyle Williams fit in? Too short, too slow for DE? -not really Too small for NT? -absolutely ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 DE- Richard SeymourNT- Vince Wilfork DE- Marcus Stroud OLB- Aaron Maybin ILB- ROLLLLANDO McClain ILB- POZ OLB- Joey Porteeeeerrrrrrr WE FIN' TO D IT UP IN DA B-LO!!!! That's NEVER going to happen but holy crap would that put some asses in the seats! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Syracuse Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Where does Kyle Williams fit in? Too short, too slow for DE? -not really Too small for NT? -absolutely ?? Aren't DE's in a 3-4 alignment basically uncovered tackles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFL Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Where does Kyle Williams fit in? Too short, too slow for DE? -not really Too small for NT? -absolutely ?? i dont think he's too small or slow for DE. quite the opposite, think he has the best motor on the front 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Mccargo to DE??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Spencer Johnson, Stroud, Williams Maybin, Poz, Kawika, Shoebel Mcgee, Whitner, Byrd, Mckelvin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 i dont think he's too small or slow for DE. quite the opposite, think he has the best motor on the front 7 By small, I mean short, 3-4 inches too short, IMO. Would a 3-4 DE ever have to pursue a running back outside? Could he handle this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl3302 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Any chance Williams adds 10-15lbs plugs in at nose? I think Kelly Gregg is there for Balt and he's similiar to Williams just a little heavier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devldog131 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Spencer Johnson, Stroud, Williams Maybin, Poz, Kawika, Shoebel Mcgee, Whitner Wilson, Byrd, Mckelvin Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Spencer Johnson, Stroud, Williams Maybin, Poz, Kawika, Shoebel Mcgee, Whitner, Byrd, Mckelvin That's wayyyy too small at front-seven for a 3-4, don't you think? Stroud can't eat space like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Any chance Williams adds 10-15lbs plugs in at nose? I think Kelly Gregg is there for Balt and he's similiar to Williams just a little heavier. Balt plays a 4-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kota Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Fixed I just love it when i see these posts. So Cute!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Rob Johnson Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I have a feeling alot of people are going to be very disappointed by a lack of player turnover on the defensive side. Hopefully they can bring in one of the few free agent NTs. Pickett perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 My dream 3-4 Johnson - Wilfork - Stroud Poz - Mitchell - McClain - Maybin That would be a FORMIDABLE group to block. Maybin coming off the edge the way Bryce Paup used to would be freaking frightening for opposing QB's! My thoughts exactly. That plus our secondary looks good, we may have a monster defense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fewell733 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Balt plays a 4-3 they play a hybrid like we're going to next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalScotts Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I'm guessing Schobel is gone. retire, trade or cut. No way he wants to go through the change at this point in his career. he's already on the bubble. Has already said he's probably more suited to a 3-4 than a 4-3 you don't throw double digit sack guys out the door Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Where does Kyle Williams fit in? Too short, too slow for DE? -not really Too small for NT? -absolutely ?? Here...this guy is a 3-4 NT that has made 2 consecutive pro bowls... http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RatlJa20.htm No reason that Kyle Williams should be deemed too small. By small, I mean short, 3-4 inches too short, IMO. Would a 3-4 DE ever have to pursue a running back outside? Could he handle this? One of the keys to playing DT is staying low to maintain leverage...height can be a negative for a DT, not just a positive. Look: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FranAu20.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HampCa00.htm http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WillJa99.htm They come in all shapes and sizes. The important thing is: can he play? And I'd like to think we'd all agree that Williams can. Any chance Williams adds 10-15lbs plugs in at nose? I think Kelly Gregg is there for Balt and he's similiar to Williams just a little heavier. Gregg is almost identical in size to Williams. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/G/GregKe20.htm Plus, see the Jay Ratliff post above, it's not about size, it's about ability. There's no reason Williams can't play the nose if he's taught to tie up blockers properly. Stroud is the guy that I worry about fitting into the scheme, he may have to kick out to end, and he doesn't exactly project well as a 5-technique (EDIT: However, there have been similar 3-tech guys like Trevor Pryce that have made the same transition in the past). I agree that guys like Schobel and Kelsay are likely gone, but I think they need to find a way to fit Stroud into the equation. He, along with Spencer Johnson, will really need to step up their game. As far as LBs go, I'd count on Mitchell and Poz inside, with Ellison and Nic Harris backing up. Maybin is a lock to move to rush LB, and (although there's a long way to go before anything is set in stone) I'd bet the same fate awaits Chris Ellis. Overall, because 3-4 players tend to be guys that move from their college position to other roles in the NFL, they tend to be available in the 3rd-4th rounds of the draft. I'd expect quite a few OLB/DE and DT/DE picks as the draft progresses. Just my 1 cent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazed and Amuzed Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Selvie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sllib olaffub Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 If we're going to switch, this year, at least, there are some NT's becoming free agents. So, if one or two don't get franchised, then we can get one. Seymour, too, might be available. If we could take care of the D-line in F.A., and maybin goes to LB, then someone like McClain would round off our Defense and make it look pretty damn good for next year. I don't have the specifics at hand, but it seems like there are going to be a few D-linemen and outside linebackers available this year in F.A., and we're in a perfect spot to draft the best linebacker, too, or NT, for that matter. We'll see how serious Ralph is by summer. ...and, we might have some trade bait for 4-3 teams, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Kyle Williams will start somewhere on the line....mark my words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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