LaDairis Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Second Round: Charles Brown OLT USC - best pass blocking OLT in the Draft Third Round: Rodger Saffold OT Indiana (an OLT in college, a perfect ORT for the NFL) ... ... Sixth Round: Sean Allen C East Carolina (steal of the Draft, likely best C prospect in the Draft, and a total whiff so far by the NFL "gurus") Seventh Round: Brian Simmons OG Oklahoma (OK, so Duke sukks, Brandon Walker got a DUI a week after his undrafted was signed... I watched Duke a lot in 08 and concluded he sukked. I actually thought Walker was pretty decent as a late Round backup interior. And the guy they kept rotating in for both Duke and Brandon, must be some PS1 Freshman... nope, its DL convert Brian Simmons, the best OG on OU in 08 and 09, and the one OG prospect in this Draft who excels at all aspects of being an OG - Draft guru "consensus" - undrafted, maybe even a "try-out" player... New Bills OL capable of keeping an NFL QB upright for more than 2 seconds per pass play (a HUGE upgrade from last year) OLT Brown OLG Simmons C Allen ORG winner of Wood, Levitre, and everyone else ORT Saffold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tennesseeboy Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I like your thinking, but i'd draft all of those guys PLUS either Davis or Baluga at 9. Never can have too many good offensive linemen, and with injuries you have to be fairly deep. I see the QB thing being fixed for the time being as a trade or free agent signing. Actually If we were going to get McLain or a great defensive lineman at 9 I would certainly be able to live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoner7 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Second Round: Charles Brown OLT USC - best pass blocking OLT in the DraftThird Round: Rodger Saffold OT Indiana (an OLT in college, a perfect ORT for the NFL) ... ... Sixth Round: Sean Allen C East Carolina (steal of the Draft, likely best C prospect in the Draft, and a total whiff so far by the NFL "gurus") Seventh Round: Brian Simmons OG Oklahoma (OK, so Duke sukks, Brandon Walker got a DUI a week after his undrafted was signed... I watched Duke a lot in 08 and concluded he sukked. I actually thought Walker was pretty decent as a late Round backup interior. And the guy they kept rotating in for both Duke and Brandon, must be some PS1 Freshman... nope, its DL convert Brian Simmons, the best OG on OU in 08 and 09, and the one OG prospect in this Draft who excels at all aspects of being an OG - Draft guru "consensus" - undrafted, maybe even a "try-out" player... New Bills OL capable of keeping an NFL QB upright for more than 2 seconds per pass play (a HUGE upgrade from last year) OLT Brown OLG Simmons C Allen ORG winner of Wood, Levitre, and everyone else ORT Saffold Aside from that being a huge stretch, I guess thats ok - as long as you know what you are talkin about with those other prospects. I havent watched any of them so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prenzoni Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 OLT BrownOLG Simmons C Allen ORG winner of Wood, Levitre, and everyone else ORT Saffold You want to start 4 rookies and 1 second year player on the OL this year? I'm pretty sure whoever starts at QB will be on IR by the 2nd quarter of week one. Hangartner had a decent year at center and Levitre and Wood both played well as rookies. Butler should have a chance to compete for ORT with whom ever the Bills bring in. The key is going to be a competent OLT, probably at #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 You want to start 4 rookies and 1 second year player on the OL this year? I'm pretty sure whoever starts at QB will be on IR by the 2nd quarter of week one. Hangartner had a decent year at center and Levitre and Wood both played well as rookies. Butler should have a chance to compete for ORT with whom ever the Bills bring in. The key is going to be a competent OLT, probably at #9. I agree most of the Oline is actually pretty good, when healthy. When Butler went down last year that was our biggest loss it opened the door of the swinging tackles each week and made it impossible to develop any continuity Butler is solid too when hes healthy, hopefully he comes back and plays the whole year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperKillerRobots Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Second Round: Charles Brown OLT USC - best pass blocking OLT in the DraftThird Round: Rodger Saffold OT Indiana (an OLT in college, a perfect ORT for the NFL) ... ... Sixth Round: Sean Allen C East Carolina (steal of the Draft, likely best C prospect in the Draft, and a total whiff so far by the NFL "gurus") Seventh Round: Brian Simmons OG Oklahoma (OK, so Duke sukks, Brandon Walker got a DUI a week after his undrafted was signed... I watched Duke a lot in 08 and concluded he sukked. I actually thought Walker was pretty decent as a late Round backup interior. And the guy they kept rotating in for both Duke and Brandon, must be some PS1 Freshman... nope, its DL convert Brian Simmons, the best OG on OU in 08 and 09, and the one OG prospect in this Draft who excels at all aspects of being an OG - Draft guru "consensus" - undrafted, maybe even a "try-out" player... New Bills OL capable of keeping an NFL QB upright for more than 2 seconds per pass play (a HUGE upgrade from last year) OLT Brown OLG Simmons C Allen ORG winner of Wood, Levitre, and everyone else ORT Saffold So you are the only one who knows that all four of these players are NFL ready right now? And every team will pass on them? I'd bring back Seth McKinney, Kendall Simmons, and maybe even go out and dig up Mike Gandy before I put four rookies on the oline. Oh yeah, not to mention I'd take Butler and Hangartner too. If we had the first five picks in the draft and could take anyone we wanted and decided to take all olinemen, I wouldn't start four of them - or even three of them for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Everyone is an expert regarding players they've never watched. After all, they parrot the great Todd McShay, still sure Brady Quinn is one of the greatest QB prospects ever... Saffold is out, everyone saw him at the Shrine. Simmons and Allen have gotten the total shaft. Let them go undrafted and y'all will lose Simmons to the Cowboys and Allen to the Panthers - UDFA have a regional bias. Best one locally - UB S Mike Newton. If you have access, watch their bowl games. Watch Simmons vs. Stanford and Allen vs. Arkansas. You'll understand quickly if you are able to understand that which you watch, which clearly excludes most here... As for my special last year, KC try out player Darryl Harris (in TSW archives somewhere), he was the one of 13 tryout players to get a camp fodder contract, then he was second team OLG for a good chunk of the preseason, and then he was PS-ed for most of the year, being activated and switched to C when Niswanger got hurt, but then Rudy, it turn out, wasn't that hurt and played. No, Darryl Harris did not beat out Brian Waters. Sorry. Perhaps this year though... Go ask the folks at Chiefs Planet what they thought of tryout player Darryl Harris in the preseason last year... and hopefully that will stop parrots from flinging BirdS when I make these type of assessments... Or, go have another mouthfull of birdseed and keep parroting McShay as God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl3302 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Second Round: Charles Brown OLT USC - best pass blocking OLT in the DraftThird Round: Rodger Saffold OT Indiana (an OLT in college, a perfect ORT for the NFL) ... ... Sixth Round: Sean Allen C East Carolina (steal of the Draft, likely best C prospect in the Draft, and a total whiff so far by the NFL "gurus") Seventh Round: Brian Simmons OG Oklahoma (OK, so Duke sukks, Brandon Walker got a DUI a week after his undrafted was signed... I watched Duke a lot in 08 and concluded he sukked. I actually thought Walker was pretty decent as a late Round backup interior. And the guy they kept rotating in for both Duke and Brandon, must be some PS1 Freshman... nope, its DL convert Brian Simmons, the best OG on OU in 08 and 09, and the one OG prospect in this Draft who excels at all aspects of being an OG - Draft guru "consensus" - undrafted, maybe even a "try-out" player... New Bills OL capable of keeping an NFL QB upright for more than 2 seconds per pass play (a HUGE upgrade from last year) OLT Brown OLG Simmons C Allen ORG winner of Wood, Levitre, and everyone else ORT Saffold WHAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metzelaars_lives Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 This is a preposterous post. You are exaggerating the need for OL relative to the rest of the needs on the team. IF Wood is ready, which sounds unlikely, you got high draft pick rookie or free agent LT/Levitre/Hangartner/Wood/Butler, which is a good, young offensive line- again, assuming they can stay healthy. Who the hell is going to start at WR opposite Evans? Who the hell is going to play LB? Do we need 3 starting LB's or 4? Do we need a NT? We need another pass rushing specialist. Who in the name of God is going to start at QB? Not to mention, you act as if Wood and Levitre haven't earned a starting spot for themselves and a late round rookie would be worthy of starting over one of them?!? One thing people fail to acknowledge on here is that when Butler has been healthy, he's been GOOD! Yeah, let's start a 6th rounder over him too. Congratulations you have heard of a bunch of college offensive linemen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 The Bills have every position except LT covered. They have Levitre, Hangman, Incognito, and Wood (when he returns) to man the middle and provide depth. They have Butler, Meredith, and Bell at RT and depth at both OT spots. If this Charlie Brown is truly the best pass blocker and can be had in the 2nd, that would be great. But it would be incredibly hard to bypass a LT with the 9th overall, hoping that he'd be there in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Second Round: Charles Brown OLT USC - best pass blocking OLT in the DraftThird Round: Rodger Saffold OT Indiana (an OLT in college, a perfect ORT for the NFL) ... ... Sixth Round: Sean Allen C East Carolina (steal of the Draft, likely best C prospect in the Draft, and a total whiff so far by the NFL "gurus") Seventh Round: Brian Simmons OG Oklahoma (OK, so Duke sukks, Brandon Walker got a DUI a week after his undrafted was signed... I watched Duke a lot in 08 and concluded he sukked. I actually thought Walker was pretty decent as a late Round backup interior. And the guy they kept rotating in for both Duke and Brandon, must be some PS1 Freshman... nope, its DL convert Brian Simmons, the best OG on OU in 08 and 09, and the one OG prospect in this Draft who excels at all aspects of being an OG - Draft guru "consensus" - undrafted, maybe even a "try-out" player... New Bills OL capable of keeping an NFL QB upright for more than 2 seconds per pass play (a HUGE upgrade from last year) OLT Brown OLG Simmons C Allen ORG winner of Wood, Levitre, and everyone else ORT Saffold You REALLY want us to draft a QB at #9 don't you? LOL. Where do you get your intel? The best pass blocking LT is a second round prospect? You need to start hoping that Bryan Bulaga is still available to us at #9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDaDdy Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 I agree most of the Oline is actually pretty good, when healthy. When Butler went down last year that was our biggest loss it opened the door of the swinging tackles each week and made it impossible to develop any continuity Butler is solid too when hes healthy, hopefully he comes back and plays the whole year Butler is RARELY healthy unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLynchTrain Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 LaDarius!!! Good to have you and your pompous statements back! I thought we had seen the last of you after some of your previous idiot posts. By the way I love the preemptive attack about parroting before anyone even attacked you. Good to have you back sir!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 "You REALLY want us to draft a QB at #9 don't you?" Where did I say that? I don't think any QB prospect is worth a First this year, much less a top 10. "By the way I love the preemptive attack about parroting before anyone even attacked you." Yes, indeed, several came up with your line before you were able to post it, which is always "the gurus I parrot know better than you." Butler? If you are happy with Butler at ORT, then you are happy picking in the top 10 of the Draft every year... "The Bills have every position except LT covered" Covered in WHAT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtl3302 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Everyone is an expert regarding players they've never watched. After all, they parrot the great Todd McShay, still sure Brady Quinn is one of the greatest QB prospects ever... Saffold is out, everyone saw him at the Shrine. Simmons and Allen have gotten the total shaft. Let them go undrafted and y'all will lose Simmons to the Cowboys and Allen to the Panthers - UDFA have a regional bias. Best one locally - UB S Mike Newton. If you have access, watch their bowl games. Watch Simmons vs. Stanford and Allen vs. Arkansas. You'll understand quickly if you are able to understand that which you watch, which clearly excludes most here... As for my special last year, KC try out player Darryl Harris (in TSW archives somewhere), he was the one of 13 tryout players to get a camp fodder contract, then he was second team OLG for a good chunk of the preseason, and then he was PS-ed for most of the year, being activated and switched to C when Niswanger got hurt, but then Rudy, it turn out, wasn't that hurt and played. No, Darryl Harris did not beat out Brian Waters. Sorry. Perhaps this year though... Go ask the folks at Chiefs Planet what they thought of tryout player Darryl Harris in the preseason last year... and hopefully that will stop parrots from flinging BirdS when I make these type of assessments... Or, go have another mouthfull of birdseed and keep parroting McShay as God... One question for you: why post something if MOST of us don't understand anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 "You are exaggerating the need for OL relative to the rest of the needs on the team" LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, but it really is truly shocking to read stuff like this. The Bills, last year, had talent at RB, TE, WR, and the offense just totally blew. WHY??? Oh, yeah, the QB, it was all the QBs fault getting hit in 2 seconds after the snap.... It doesn't matter who the Bills QB is if he keeps getting treated like the Giants treated Tom Brady in the Super Bowl... If you haven't figured that out, nobody can help you except a shrink... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 One question for you: why post something if MOST of us don't understand anyway? Good question. Why read my posts about Global Warming when you can parrot "scientific experts" like Danny Glover and Prince Charles?? This is supposed to be a FOOTBALL BOARD. My posts are about FOOTBALL (here, politics on that board). If you don't understand, then you are free not to read them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JStranger76 Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 Right on LynchTrain. It's like he feels himself getting slapped in the face as he posts! Hey, even though the guy has gotten pretty outta hand in the past at least he is trying to figure out a way to build the Bills line into something good. It's something 99% of us know needs to get done one way or the other. We'll just put him in that "other" category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stl Bills Posted February 4, 2010 Share Posted February 4, 2010 "You REALLY want us to draft a QB at #9 don't you?" Where did I say that? I don't think any QB prospect is worth a First this year, much less a top 10. "By the way I love the preemptive attack about parroting before anyone even attacked you." Yes, indeed, several came up with your line before you were able to post it, which is always "the gurus I parrot know better than you." Butler? If you are happy with Butler at ORT, then you are happy picking in the top 10 of the Draft every year... "The Bills have every position except LT covered" Covered in WHAT? Ladairis is back you parrots! Keep Squawkin with inferior football knowlledge.....we all know that Eric King would be the best CB in the league if he was still in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaDairis Posted February 4, 2010 Author Share Posted February 4, 2010 Ladairis is back you parrots! Keep Squawkin with inferior football knowlledge.....we all know that Eric King would be the best CB in the league if he was still in the NFL. King was a Fifth Rounder who outperformed most from that year's Fifth Round. It is a tribute to King's value in Round 5 that you have to talk as if I claimed he was a First Rounder and best in the NFL like I correctly predicted with Jon Joseph, who is right up there with Revis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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