Bills vs Redskins

[QB Bills]

I live in the middle of Redskinville after growing up in Buffalo. There are many things I like about both cities.

If Buffalo had the same weather as DC I would probably be living there now. Other than that my money goes much farther in Buffalo. Buffalo is known for bad weather in the US but if marketed properly it could be the Miami of Canada. That is one of the attractive points about Toronto. It's one of your best weather locations in Canada.

I don't see Shanahan as being the savior he is touted as being. However the Redskins aren't that far off. With a few OL and QB changes they will compete soon. Just like the Bills they lost more games due to stupidity than bad play.

What does that even mean?

[8-8 Forever?]

I don't think the Redskins "team" is any better than the Bills, no way. The suburbs around DC, Maryland, Northern Virginia is much nicer though. If you're not FROM Buffalo, there's just no way you are going to have any desire to re-locate yourself and family to WNY. DC area is world class and DC actually has a very good nightlife and club scene that the athletes love.

So being from Buffalo is annoys me that people like Shanahan would choose DC, but i can totally understand why it happens.

 

Agreed. Doesn't make it fair or right, but it is what it is. The Bills can get the Jim McNallys of the world, but thats about it if other jobs in other cities are available at around the same price. Plus the franchise is about to be sold. who will move to a place like buff (unless they are from there) with a franchise sale/move about to happen, unless you are 1) drafted and have no choice in the matter or 2) Dick Jauron types, who have no other options. It is what it is.

[ntjacks79]

We can all make statements about Buffalo, like it's a great place to be FROM, but does anyone think about Green Bay vs. Buffalo? Is Green Bay that much more of a better place than Buffalo? Plain and simple, it starts at the top. Ralph Wilson is a smart businessman, but a terrible football guy. Don't blame this on the city of Buffalo, blame it on the organization.

 

Dan Snyder has the glamour of our Nation's Capital, so naturally he'll have an advantage to attract the better candidates. Buffalo has numerous problems, first and foremost is a bumbling front office and a franchise in question thanks to no ownership plan in place. If Ralph would decide to designate a group to buy the team, it will give the Bills a better foundation to build upon. Until then, this team will be in utter disarray.

Completely agree. When you do things like giving away your home field advantage to play a game in Toronto, you give the league the impression you are in dire straits. This is an organizational issue, not a Buffalo issue.

[cale]

We can all make statements about Buffalo, like it's a great place to be FROM, but does anyone think about Green Bay vs. Buffalo? Is Green Bay that much more of a better place than Buffalo? Plain and simple, it starts at the top. Ralph Wilson is a smart businessman, but a terrible football guy. Don't blame this on the city of Buffalo, blame it on the organization.

 

Dan Snyder has the glamour of our Nation's Capital, so naturally he'll have an advantage to attract the better candidates. Buffalo has numerous problems, first and foremost is a bumbling front office and a franchise in question thanks to no ownership plan in place. If Ralph would decide to designate a group to buy the team, it will give the Bills a better foundation to build upon. Until then, this team will be in utter disarray.

 

I think this observation is true. But by most accounts, Snyder is a megalomaniac and a bully. I think to some extent most NFL owners are megalomaniacs - but Snyder takes it to another level. Why would a sane person like Shanahan want to work in that sort of environment?

 

My initial post was a question more of the organizations and owners themselves as opposed to the city. I think DC is a great city the politicians not withstanding. But as a HC you're not gonna see much of any city you're in except for the off season. Though if Shanny has designs on politics after coaching, he'd be in the right place.

 

The only thing Snyder has that Ralph doesn't in the ownership dept. is money, IMHO. So the Bills have less margin for error. Snyder just throws money at it and it seems to soften the national PR blow. No matter how many coaches end up running for the hills after the Redskins gig, it still seems like a "desirable" job. That was my main comment on the situation.

 

C

[finknottle]

Differences in the rosters, facilities, and management aside, one cannot ignore the paycheck.

 

Coaches salaries are uncapped, and as a rich franchise the Redskins can pay a great deal more than the Bills. And let's not forget the impact of the welfare state: even if the Bills offered the same amount, taxes in Buffalo are significantly higher. A coach would pay an extra 5% of his salary to New York State over what he would to Virginia, and I imagine the disparity in county taxes are even worse. It takes a $1.1m salary in Buffalo to equal a $1m salary in DC. Differences in cost-of-living don't matter, since these coaches are not spending their money. It is their nest egg. They are banking it and will move on when they are done.

[LGB]

oh stop it. these guys are rock stars. they don't hang around an f ing lake in the f ing state parks in the off season... geez.

8&8, just making a general statement, not just specific to "rock stars", but my point is there are more than a couple nice natural resources in WNY. Sure, there are more bars and night life elsewhere, but you already knew that.

[dreadlox]

oh stop it. these guys are rock stars. they don't hang around an f ing lake in the f ing state parks in the off season... geez.

 

Shawn Taylor, Adam Jones, etc. Not saying I disagree with your sentiment, but I think eventually the tide will turn. Being a family man myself, I would find WNY a very attractive place to live.

[jscap]

What makes Green Bay a desirable destination? It's colder than Buffalo, similar size, and last I checked not the nightlife capital of the USA. Seems the only thing that matters to people these days is the weather and the "upscale" nightlife. Everytime I here ESPN or any other media outlet joke about it snowing here in August I just think to how i've never had to flee my home due to wildfires, never waited out a hurricane, and never had to rebuild from an earthquake. I guess paradise has a price.

[apuszczalowski]

I am sorry to break the news to you and other Bills fans who have delusions, but Buffalo is one of the least desirable markets in sports.

 

Plus, when you factor in an owner who let so many good players just leave for various reasons (Peters, Clements, Winfield, Pat Williams, Fletcher etc) you begin to have a reputation around the league.

Ralph, you reap what you sew.

Where did you hear that it was the owners decision to let those guys go? Last time I heard it was the coaches and "GM" that made the personel decisions for the team

[Conch]

There isn't one coach hire in DC since Snyder has been owner that has resulted in success. Save maybe Schottenheimer who was fired as well. Snyder is just as meddlesome, if not more so than Ralph. The Redskins are just as dysfunctional if not worse. And yet Snyder is from a national perception is better positioned. Why? Just because he has more money?

 

There's an old saying, "Money can't buy common sense"

 

This is pure BS. The guy has money but doesn't know what to do with it or how to treat people. Yet the Bills are ignored and marginalized.

 

Weird and screwed up.

 

C

 

Snyder will go get the players that Shanahan needs. Ralph will not...Buddy "we will build from the draft."

 

Shanahan, Cowher et al want to win and win now. These coaches will help attract the players they need to be successful and they want an aggressive owner. Ralph will build slowly if at all.

[spartacus]

I will say this, I was very excited to see that Shanny only got 7 mil in DC. The bar for Cowher can't be higher than 10 mil. Good news, since 10 mil was the max that Wilson said he would pay.

 

this is pure fantasy

 

please provide link where Ralph actually said he would spend $10 mil (per year) on a coach.

 

(Ralph may pay $10 mil in total)

 

pure speculation made up by the media.

[billsfreak]

I see two reasons why coaching the Redskins is such a major upgrade over coaching in Buffalo.

 

1. The team will never move.

2. The owners wallet isn't welded shut, and although he goes about it in a messed up way, he does all he can to win.

[Wing Man]

It's all about the endorsements. A coach can do as much or more in endorsements in a major television market. I can't wait to see Cowher's first ad for City Mattress or Cowher Crunch cereal.