Got_Wood Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got_Wood Posted December 22, 2009 Author Share Posted December 22, 2009 And here is the ESPN article... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4762828 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dog14787 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 And here is the ESPN article... http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4762828 Browns fans get an early Christmas present so how about us Ralph? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Browns fans get an early Christmas present so how about us Ralph? !@#$ it, I don't want some hasbeen who's trying to salvage his career. Buffalo isn't a suitable destination for the Holmgren ilk, give me a young, hungry up-and-comer. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBaumer Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Never wanted Holmgren as a GM, only coach. ESPN went over his track record and besides 2-3 players, it was garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob16151 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Good for cleveland. They have had a long decade as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewildrabbit Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 The guy has won a super bowl...and been in a SB 3 times as HC. He knows how to build a team through the draft like he did in GB and Seattle. He started as the offensive coordinator on Bill Walsh's 49ers,so he knows how to build an offense and develop a QB. He knows how to hire the proper coaches to help get the team into the playoffs and SB. He took a PoS Seattle team and did just that. What do the Buffalo Bills have in the front office as president? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Just asking, but What QB's did he "develop"? In GB he already had Favre, and in Seattle he had the better Hasselback And as for him "building" those teams he was only GM of Seattle for a few years, and they took that away from him cause he wasn't that good and they prefered he just stick to coaching. So many keep saying these big coaches "built" these great teams, but who says they actually built them? Don't the GM's get any credit for doing their jobs and "building" the team that the coaches coach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Cat Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Just asking, but What QB's did he "develop"? In GB he already had Favre, and in Seattle he had the better Hasselback And as for him "building" those teams he was only GM of Seattle for a few years, and they took that away from him cause he wasn't that good and they prefered he just stick to coaching. So many keep saying these big coaches "built" these great teams, but who says they actually built them? Don't the GM's get any credit for doing their jobs and "building" the team that the coaches coach? Yeah, not to mention he had the record holder for single-season rushing touchdowns in Alexander. It's no mystery where I stand. Players can do wonderful things for a coaches resume. I just don't see it happening in reverse that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Yeah, not to mention he had the record holder for single-season rushing touchdowns in Alexander. It's no mystery where I stand. Players can do wonderful things for a coaches resume. I just don't see it happening in reverse that often. Usually it goes hand in hand, good coaches can make players look better, and good players can make coaches look better. Its a good thing that the Patriots went with that proven commodity in Bellicheck when they were looking for a coach. The Falcons and Ravens must be happy they went with proven winners after last season, along with Arizona, and Pittsburgh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headcase Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Just asking, but What QB's did he "develop"? In GB he already had Favre, and in Seattle he had the better Hasselback Actually Farve and Homgren both got to Green Bay in '92, and Hasselbeck was drafted in '98 Holmgren's last draft in GB. SSDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EndZoneCrew Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 drafted in '98 Holmgren's last draft in GB. SSDD Holmgren ran GB's draft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProjectPat Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Good for Cleveland...Don't really care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Browns fans get an early Christmas present so how about us Ralph? Present? Seattle is still paying a heavy price for many of his decisions... Careful what you wish for, cause you just might get it. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Actually Farve and Homgren both got to Green Bay in '92, and Hasselbeck was drafted in '98 Holmgren's last draft in GB. SSDD Not arguing, just wondering what QB's Holmgren developed. I just remember him having Favre and Hasselback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Poor Browns. They just don't see the advantages of waiting for a hot coordinator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisyphean Bills Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Not arguing, just wondering what QB's Holmgren developed. I just remember him having Favre and Hasselback Steve Young and Joe Montana ring any bells? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson from Gamehendge Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter Tough break for Browns fans.. as Holmgren was signing his new contract he got a papercut and now has a staph infection. here is another post from schefty's twitter... "Despite speculation that Mike Shanahan could wind up in Dallas, he will not. Shanahan eyeing other situations, not the Cowboys." Holmgren will turn them around with these 11 draft picks and the next year or two. Pittsburgh and Baltimore seem to be falling a bit and getting older. Cincinnati may just be the Dolphins of last year, a fluke. If Cleveland turns it around, they can challenge for that spot, ala last year's Dolphins. I think the Brownies will be alright...time for the other side of the lake to get something done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bananathumb Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Cleveland has Mike Holmgren as President, Buffalo has Russ Brandon. Enough said there. Cleveland will get a GM picked by MH, Buffalo will get one picked by Russ Brandon. Cleveland has mangini if MH wants him or someone like Mooch if MH wants to go West Coast Offense; Buffalo has Perry Fewell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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