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Erik, you'll never realize how much I'm in agreement with this whole train of thought here. I just thought that we were right on the verge of doing it the "right way" and now it appears that we might have taken a couple of steps backwards this off season. That's too bad. I'm really not trying to condemn or judge Marshawn, if indeed he was the driver, but what really disappoints me is not the fact that he might have been out late, drinking and possibly not putting himself, his future and the team in the best situation but the fact that if it was him who hit that woman then the realization that it didn't matter enough to him to see if she was alright. That's really the complaint that I would have with him and this incident. I'm a football fanatic, the Bills especially, but it's NOT the most important thing to me in life although I'll admit it is up there though.
That's true. And for the record should Marshawn warrant a suspension and is given it I would support the commissioner's decision but I would route for the Bills and hope that they have made enough personnel moves (ie Freddie Jackson and/or Omon) that they would be able to overcome but you bet once Marshawn is in the lineup that I will root for him to succeed with the team every minute he is in there. I will root for Hardy too because the truth is these kids are in the early 20's and have not come close to eaching their point of full maturity. Plenty of people have made it out after living tough lives and making some tough choices in the earlier years, so I'll stick with them and hope that they live and learn.
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I'll offer a olive branch here and take this time to apologize to you about my insinuation about your character because you're right, I don't know you. As far as you considering this an idiotic post is your opinion and I'll respect that without taking offense but I did take some solace in the fact that while we were getting pounded by the Patriots in the last few years our players didn't resort to being undesirable on and off the field like them and some other teams from around the league. I can't say that I feel the same way about some of our players at this time. That's too bad because at one time part of our slogan was Talkin' Proud.
Fair enough. I'm just growing weary of all of the personal attacks we've been seeing on the board. It's obvious that mostly everyone on the board does not condone the actions of Lynch, whatever thay may be, but it seems like people have to prove that they are smarter, classier, etc. and it is really growing tiresome. Also being a Bills fan in New England I can tell you it's going to take a lot more than being classier to handle getting pummeled 56-10 by the Pats. I mean sure I can respect other teams more than the Pats or Bengals but at the end of the day we have failed to achieve our ultimate goal and another team succeeded regardless of how classy they are collectively. And when we've gone so many years without making the playoffs (and having some very classy players and teams as a whole during that period) you just want to win.
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Enough said. Those two statements screams volumes about you.
Amen brother. I thought for a moment that I was the only one who thought that. Coles is obviously good but that Cotchery is a beast.
Troll??! LOL! I've been called alot of things on this board but I have to tell ya pal, this one is a first.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFL/A.../wwhi060608.htm
You can choose to sweep it under the rug or face up to the fact that in the last couple of years we have had a few players in unsavory legal situations. Sh--, have we even sign Hardy yet? BTW, if our player(s) continue down this path are they even going to be able to play the games in Toronto? If not and it lands up costing Ralphie boy, then I wouldn't be too surprised if we "suddenly" re-emphasize character again.
Now that you mentioned Lynch specifically, which I didn't but I would like to say something about this great debate that has been raging on about his vehicle involved in the hit and run has everyone voicing legal opinion on what he should have done. I'm not educated about the law and what he should or should not do AFTER the fact but I don't need a lawyer to direct my opinion on what the driver should have done AT the scene of the crime. Legally AND morally the driver should have stopped and helped her. That would have been classy now, don't you think?
Alright since you decided to call me our for supposedly having no class, let me respond since you don't even know me. The point I was trying to make is that this whole post is idiotic...so what if the Jets have more class than anyone else in the division? The Patriots will likely win the division again, class or no class. They cheated for the past 7 years, showing a lack of class, and won three championships in the process. I'm not condoning it, it's jsut the facts. So regardless if you dislike the fact that we have people Marshawn Lynch or James Hardy on our team or that the Jets are a bunch of nice, classy guys that should be rewarded on the field it just doesn't matter. In our culture athletes are given millions of dollars at the age of 20, 21 and are glorified by their fan base. Stuff like this happens to every single sports franchise at one point or another in the history at this day and age. To think that when a few players get into legal trouble for the same franchise that it means that they will a) perform poorly and b) don't deserve to put on the uniform is both naive and ignorant. Randy Moss ran over a traffic cop a few years ago and smiled the whole time he was doing it. Last year he was hailed as a hero for the Patriots and played on a team that went 16-0. The Patriots, by the way, have had more arrests than we have this offseason. And where will they likely be next year? Probably either playing for the Super Bowl or even winning it. So again I say - Who caes about class? Does it even matter? Seems pretty clear to me that the answer is no. And those two statements do not reflect negative on me and those two statements do not "scream volumes to you." Again, if you don't like it these kids getting in trouble with the law, stop buying the tickets and the jerseys and feeding the franchises to allow them to dish out millions to kids who might have not have even finished college. I'll agree all day and night that leaving the scene of a hit and run lacks all class but the point is it won't matter on the football field. And that was the point of the original post which, in my opinion, is dead wrong.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but other than having disgruntled players with their contracts I haven't heard or seen too much about their players having legality issues. They have a young team also and were heavy hitters this year in free agency/trades. It wouldn't be too surprising if they threaten for some kind of post season play this year.
Another thing that I noticed is that like alot of control freaks their FO likes to censor more then they have a right to. That could cause unneeded dissension for them and become a problem but other than that they could be a big nemisis for the Bills this year. Their QBs are not the greatest but their RBs and WRs are pretty lethal and they could wind up being a very dangerous team for the Bills this year.
Who cares about class? Honestly it doesn't matter. The team with the least amount of class in the division will win the most amount of games, as they did last year and the year before, etc. etc. So really what is the point?
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How do you know they haven't? My biggest problem with the 24x7 news media is that it makes people believe that just because they haven't heard something, it could not possibly have happened.
No, no one is telling you (or the other 57 people that have made 'if it were me' posts) that. Once and for all, pro athletes are celebrities and THE RULES ARE DIFFERENT FOR CELEBRITIES. If you don't like that, don't participate in perpetuating the celebrity culture.
First of all, who said that I was perpetuating the celebrity culture? And second of all, the point is that from where I sit, this is being handled incorrectly by the police and DA. I'm sorry if I take public service seriously and do not like it when public servants try to go out of their realm for presumed fame or whatever it is that they're looking for, etc. Based on what we've heard the route that has most likely been taken is that Marshawn is a suspect in the hit and run, he is having his lawyer talk to police and the lawyer has advised him not to say anything. The police getting frustrated with a lack of solid leads, threatens Marshawn and other Bills players and witnesses now to step up. Which is fine by me so long as they tell that to their lawyers, not news cameras. Marshawn can go to jail for ten years for all I care, I'm just saying this is not how a situation should be handled.
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LAWYER. He's got one. If you were driving and hit someone and there was "all of this evidence" (whatever that is) against you, you could just go to work all week like nothing and the police wouldn't come to question you, they would just politely ask you to come talk to them, AND YOU HAD ADVICE OF COUNSEL TO NOT TALK...yes, that's probably what they'd do. They wouldn't come get you because you've already been advised by your lawyer not to talk without him present...so why bother coming to get you?
Yes but why continue to go out to the media and say things like Marshawn is being uncooperative? What they do that if it was me doing the same exact thing? You want to talk about a double standard...like I said something just seems off...and that's the problem. Once a couple guys try to play hero you blur the line. Say Marshawn came right up and confessed...what would it be, $1000 fine and community service, etc.? Assuming that he is using the proper legal channels right now then you would expect the punishment not to change right? So why the hero mission all of a sudden by the DA and Police? Just do your job, it's not really helping anyone by coming out and talking about the case is it? That's my problem with it all.
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I don't believe that you can claim that. As for me, I haven't seen or heard Lynch go public, the police are claiming that they are getting frustrated with his silence about the situation and this is how many days after the incident? I do agree that Lynch has much at stake and needs to be careful but let's not lose sight of what's really important here and that is a woman was struck by a vehicle and was left without knowing the extent of her injuries. That's not "Stand up and be a man" BS. That's how I was raised and that's how I roll.
The whole problem I have is WHY DON'T THEY JUST GO TALK TO LYNCH??? I am not trying to give Lynch the benefit of the doubt or anything or make light of what he did but the police have known where he's been for the past week. Are you telling me that if I was driving and hit someone and run and there was all of this evidence against me I could just go to work all week like nothing and the police wouldn't come to question me, they would just politely ask me to come talk to them? I think there are two situations here. A) What Marshawn allegedly did which is seperate from B) how the police/DA are handling it. I think that is the part that is confusing me...why not just take care of it. You're the police. Why make everything public, threaten otehr Bills players, etc. I'm not questioning whether Marshawn did was right or wrong (if he did in fact do it) but I am certainly questioning the way this is being handled by the authorities...something is just off...
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You'd have a pretty weak high school squad if you pass on guys who started for NCAA division 1 teams...
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but but i thought Willis said there was no winning attitude.......... wait...... did willis lie?
He didn't lie per say...that is how the Bills are really like in his fantasy land, where he is the best RB in the league.
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Long time lurker, 1st time poster here. Perusing through Chris Brown's article on Kiwaukee's re-signing, I found this quote on the bottom.
"This is probably one of the best teams I've been around," Thomas said. "The players, the coaches… everybody keeps working and that's good. Just the camaraderie and what we started building leaves an imprint on your heart. This is home for me. I love these guys."
I think that quote speaks volumes about the culture that the Bills are trying to build here. That kind of attitude breeds winning. Now I don't think we're going to go out and win the Super Bowl or anything. But honestly, when was the last time you saw a quote like that from a Bill?
Wilson, Brandon and three players being supoenaed
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I disagree with us. If any authority figure on the Bills has any knowledge of what happened and what anyone is trying to hide, I'd say it was the head coach...and Dick Jauron's name doesn't appear here. This is grandtanding at it's worse and as a public servant, when a fellow public servant tries to use people to gain fame than I take it seriosuly and I have a problem with that. I'm sorry. I can tell you one thing though, handing Ralph Wilson a subpoena will likely do nothing more than get the DA's name on ESPN and CNN.