Niagara Bill
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7 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Thank you for acknowledging the question and the 40,000 dead due to protests. That puts you at around 25%, but honestly, that figure seems very, very low.
How can the cumulative effect of months of protesting and tens of millions of social interaction, without regard to every fundamentally sound guideline have such a negligible impact on the death toll. We are given to understand that standing in a food store one aisle over from a guy that coughs can singlehandedly break the system, or that a prayer meeting at a local church where social distancing guidelines are actually enforced can unleash the pandemically charged hounds of hell.
Looking at all the graphs, the infection and death count surged in simpatico with the advent of mass, outdoor protests.
It has to be on order of 75-85% of the total infection/death count based on what they have told us about the spread of this virus.
Cannot buy your 75% .....there were few protests before cases in NY, Texas, Florida, Arizona, CALI....I can give you Chicago, Portland and a few others but this situation falls squarely on leadership in the Whouse.
Regardless of who exactly is to blame, conflict, political conflict accounts for way too many deaths of citizens caught in the middle of these extremists.
Other than Brazil I cannot think of another country who failed to come together in this war effort.
You should be disappointed...the political party has now become more important than the country. Reagan would be sad. Tip ONeil would be sad. Even Nixon would be sad. Roosevelt brought the country together from politics in 42, but it took Pearl Harbor to get everyone's head out of their a??.
It is happening again...so sad...good luck.
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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Who, the Dems encouraging the hundreds of thousands of people to take to the streets over the past few months? The cumulative effect of thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people defying social distancing must be horrific, yes?
Of the 160k, what percentage would you figure died as a result of that sort of activity? 40? 50? 35?
Granted, maybe 40000...terrible, all resulting from lack of truth, leadership and resolve from the top of the house..the White House. Even the dems are at least partially responsible...that does not help the 170,000 or the families and friends or the front line workers...the only one who gained appears to be the 1%.
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3 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
….....hell I thought when Trudeau closed the border, he meant wi-fi as well.....dammit...…………..
We don't have Wi-Fi, we steal the signal from across the river...Trump hasn't build the wall tall enough...
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21 minutes ago, Niagara said:
I see where the CFL is taking a year off, after losing millions last year and looking for a bailout this year. It's no wonder you hang out at the Bills forum.
Too scared to open the border I hear. You literally can't go to either an NFL OR a CFL game this year. At least you will be safe.
We also hear your Premier wants a boycott of American products? Not very friendly eh?
And yes. Pence did a great job, and no doubt he will continue to do so for another 4 years. Thank God we don't have a man child like Trudeau as President. How embarrassing that would be?
What a childish post...hahaha
Your grade 6 teacher must be proud.
By the way, it is your President who fears Canada, placing tariffs on goods and aluminum to protect your industry that does not even produce the product. Pay more for your washers, dryers, stoves, dishwashers etc you piece of work.
No one could be friendly to that arse in the Whouse. He has sh,t on every friend you ever had, Trump has embarrassed your country around the world, only your money will buy you friends now.
I have many friends in Western NY and elsewhere in US. Most are great Bills fans like me. We celebrate our commonality, our civility, but people like you only destroy friendships. One day when you grow up you will see. Hope you are safe in school.
Opening the border would only endanger Canadians to more death, the only thing that you are creating these days.
Oops your mommy is calling you, better go, or does she deliver to your basement. Happy 14th birthday.
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This thread is getting close to the basement bunker of one,said Rhino. Is his name mentioned even in code?
Is wacky Zebra code for Deranged Rhino? These agent types are sneaky. ?
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1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:
This goes here too since a child rapist is being given a prime time spot tonight -- and not a single lefty on this board has said it's wrong yet. Not one.
Yes that is dispictable, Clinton and the Mrs. are both undesirable.
But your guy is close to this stuff too..... He and Jeffy and Miss Maxwell were friends...maybe close??
In your underground community wishing her well as Trump did, is it code for something?
(Have be careful of my choice of words so Chandler does not get upset?)
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32 minutes ago, Niagara said:
Better job Bull S*it.
He did a great job, no doubt 300,000 would have died otherwise. Antiabortion position is obviously irrelevant. Mr. Dense Canadian.
Sticks and stones Mr. American.
So at 300,000. 50 percent of world's deaths would have resulted in the greatest country in the world, with 5 % of the population, the standard of the world, the greatest medical community in the world failed to listen to that medical community because of politics.
You held it to 170,000 heading for 200,000 min. Bravo. Bravo. Quite the job Pence did...and it is only beginning, imagine what he can do with 4 more years and then 8 as Pres. With his opposition it is likely.
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13 minutes ago, Niagara said:
You do not know of Higgins, one of the two Congressmen from WNY because you are not from Buffalo I guess. Cuomo is a hypocrite because he pontificated on proper procedure in a pandemic while sending people to their graves in nursing homes, again something you probably do not understand because you are not from New York. As far as "not acceoting lives of citizens are equal to the lives of the unborn", I do not see how this makes Pence a hypocrite. It does not even make sense.
One more time and I will stop wasting clear thought.
Pence is totally anti abortion, the killing of unborn, yet live humans. I see his position and those that support him with money.
However this same guy promoted policies and allowed government officials and rep party buddies to have policies that resulted predictably in 170,000 deaths In actual loving people, many more than would have happened if he did a better job.
Forget Cuomo, forget others, who made wrong or questionable decisions...Pence is a typical hypocrite same as his boss.
This is hard work getting thru such closed minds.
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I have been critical of his talking....but first day of practice by all reports he played like he is in form. I truly hope he can and does. What a difference maker he can be....please Norman...quiet...just play...no locker room folder...be a real pro...?
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2 minutes ago, Cinga said:
FAUCI LIED, AND PEOPLE DIED
Hahahahahahaha
Now that is funny.....
Oh...did you mean to be a comedian?
Or did you mean Trump not Fauci...
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33 minutes ago, Niagara said:
Huh? I am anti hypocrite as well, but are you talking about Cuomo or Pence? Cuomo oked deaths of the disabled, not Pence. A political hypocrite is someone like Higgins who was antiabortion and became pro-abortion to conform with the party. Pence was never anti and then became pro-abortion, so he is not a hypocrite.
Cuomo is not anti aborionist as is Pence. He is a hypocrite for not acceoting lives of citizens are equal to the lives of the unborn.
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24 minutes ago, LB3 said:
? A few things.
1. I didn't ask you for facts.
2. I didn't say anything about the content of your post. I made a joke about you saying "Florida are..." accompanied with a gif of a funny scene in the movie Rushmore.
3. Your "facts" are just emotional ramblings. You are a "from" person. I am a "with" person.
4. Where did I say that I'm anti-abortion?
5. What Trump policies killed people? The governors are in charge of their states. They know (or should know) best what their states need. Do you want Trump to be a fascist or not?
I never posted a gif
You did ask for facts
I never said you were anti abortion but the subject was posted
Trump policies
Masks
Pro Fauci...then anti Fauci
Encouraging early opening then running to hide saying not my responsibility
Must have a federal plan...then giving I to repub governors when pressured
Democratic states are problems but Texas and Florida are not...
We are providing vents when he wasn't
Etc etc
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8 minutes ago, LB3 said:
I can't tell if you're having a stroke or if it's just because you're Canadian ?. You might want to see a doctor.
Typical...change subject you cannot defend...
Seriously, have a conscience...how can you be anti abortion yet allow your politicians to have policies that killed 160,000 people, many could have been avoided...
You asked for facts, you got them...then you run to insults.
Acknowledge the political short comings..acknowledge the political hypocrites
Ps...I would go to a doctor but with socialized medicine it takes 7.5 months. Hahaha ?
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6 minutes ago, LB3 said:
Typical....jerk...just like Pence position.
Let's overturn a law that has been in place for decades to stop abortion, go to church and pray for the unborn, BUT over see policy and political positions that oks the death of many citizens, old, young, sick, disabled, vets, front line people, doctors, nursex for the sake of a political party.
I am not pro abortion but I am anti hypocrite.
4 minutes ago, Gary M said:good argument, you sold me, I will vote for them.
Florida is doing fine for a state with an elderly population. less deaths than NY had in nursing homes alone.
For a state that has elderly population, so what is the magic number of deaths that is ok,,,,,10, 1000, 10000, 20000, your grandma, your mother, your next door neighbors mother, your sisters best friend...?
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8 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:
You need to explain yourself. Use facts.
160,000 dead is a fact. 5m + cases
Testing is good
Too much testing is bad
And the best yet.....Stop testing and we would have less cases
Hydroxie
Masks vs no masks, what day is it...oh Tuesday...masks are bad...oh it is Wed...masks are good...
Governors opening too soon,
Mixed messages from one level of government to another confusing the public.
A governor suing a mayor...then dropping it,
Democratic lead States are idiots
Florida are genius for opening up early
Yada yada yada
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1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said:
I was in the camp that at times I didn't even think there was going to be a season or that it would surely be shutdown midway through but my opinion's actually changed on that. I think we will get through the season now. I'm not as optimistic about full capacity crowds coming back this season though.
I agree. Some areas may be capable of safely holding games with crowds if everyone does their part. It is the travel from area to area that is the bigger concern. Players and fans travelling to and from highly infected areas causing reinfecting zones that are under control.
This maybe the big issue the NFL has to decide on.
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1 hour ago, 3rdnlng said:
Like when they yank those little babies out of the womb in pieces just prior to their birth?
Or when they allow 160,000 people to die because political reasons are more important!
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Josh has leadership, rushing, arm strength, a sense of timing when things are on the line, a desire to have the final 2 minutes in his hands.
Cam is an ego, head case, no leadership just bragging, selfish superman. His legs are done, we will see about his arm.
No one in football would trade Josh for Cam today.
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22 minutes ago, shoshin said:
Not in Sweden.
UK is not compliant with masks.
No return of cases.
Going on with life is the priority.
Prove it can happen and yes. But we don't even have that 99% statistic with Covid.
You have prove that masks, washing, sanitizing eliminates spread. Sweden did have rise, UK is mostly compliant.
The US is the proof that non compliance causes more cases and more deaths. Simple math.
One thing is certain...the US has suffered and at least partially responsible is terrible .leadership and politics. And it continues to suffer, no letup seen.
We do need to get on with life. Economy is a huge concern. Poverty potential and strife for many is worrisome. But maybe new norms. Offices us g split shifts to reduce distancing and transit crowding, school have different hours, masks in public, 15,000 viewing a game rather than 60000, more drive in theatres instead of packed shows, more aisle space in stores rather than less, etc etc. But an orderly controlled public with good leadership and private sector support can put us back together faster and permanently as opposed to the freedom nonsense.
Freedom is drinking the whiskey of choice it is not allowing moonshine that potentially kills the public
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2 minutes ago, shoshin said:
Do you think it's appropriate to legislate based on no evidence?
IT, ES, SE, US (regionally), UK have had no second death/hospital spike after an initial. Nowhere will be at 0, even after the vaccines come because many won't take them.
They have Not yet had major rebump but have also taken to masks, distancing etc better than US. US has too many political positions. Trump, governors, mayors who support the freedom issue. I consider that with ut government rules for speed limits we would have more road deaths. Just add masks and distancing to that line.
A vaccine may never be ready, may not last or virus mutates. We need to get on with life using the guidelines to protect all of society.
If you could eliminate 99% of cancers with a mask for the next 12 months would you?
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2 minutes ago, shoshin said:
Saying , "Who knows" is not a reason to levy life-altering restrictions. There is not yet any evidence that this is coming back. All evidence shows exactly the opposite.
The school thing makes no sense. Kids need to be in school.
There is no evidence it is not coming back, reappearance has happened in most locales.
School is necessary, agreed, but success is challenged because of those who do not follow or care about masks, gatherings, social distance etc.
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18 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said:
CCP Bill chimes in to protect Pedo-Bill. Proving again what CCP Bill really cares about -- being an advocate for the indefensible.
Who's surprised?
Proving once again that Rhino is the most misguided deviant on this site. The view from mom's basement has given you a deranged view.
Such a deranged view of a statement that supports his direction.
Proving of course, the only thing that is important in the basement and the Kremlin is conflict. I hope Putin uses you in the trials.
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On 8/16/2020 at 2:58 PM, Deranged Rhino said:
And give a prime time speech spot to a child rapist without compunction.
Oh Rhino you are so blinded...I feel sorry for you, such hatred must feel painful from the basement view....
BUT
I have to confess, at this stage of the race, I predict a Trump win. Not because of him, but because the dems cannot move far enough to the middle to get the votes. Bernie, Lizzy, Hill, and Michelle....yuck...most voters in the middle hate them, I hate them....they are stopping Joe and Kammy from moving to the middle. The fringe left will never vote for your guy just like you will never vote for Joe.
They preach to the choir, they need to preach to the people in the streets.
It hurts to say what I just confessed but unless Trump pulls a stupid Nixon stunt ( which is probable) he wins by default.
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1 hour ago, shoshin said:
The Vietnam conflict didn't have kids out of school and cause 10% unemployment and countless shuttering of small businesses and keep people from going to the hospital and all the crushing health issues happening now.
A bubble of friends doesn't keep open the corner store. And it really doesn't send kinds back to school and a system that is vital to a lot of Americans.
You can think of the guys having the beer at the bar as selfish. I just think of them as "not me," as I'll choose to not do that. But based on numbers, we are long past a time where the government should be mandating what the guys at the bar are allowed to do.
If we see a rise like happened in NYC at the beginning that region can maybe justify more but so far, EVERY place in the world that got hit hard once has seen no serious rise since. Not one, no matter how strict or lenient they are.
Long past the time government should be mandating...seriously. the flippin government did not mandate long enough and now in many places it got out of control when 2 or 3 more weeks would have reduced it significantly.
Science talks of a new wave as a great possibility. Whether that is NYC or Jersey or New Orleans or LA. We have yet to be able to see what may happen. Nothing? Worse the second time around? Same again?
But selfish people I have no patience for. If a second wave comes it is on them. It is them that makes the school venture more risky. It is them that makes corner stores more risky, and all commerce hurt longer.
7 minutes ago, BeerLeagueHockey said:Yes, I would kill to play some hockey and forgo the locker room beers right now in NY. Maybe in the next month or two.
I think we're on the same page - but it surprises me when I still see people hiding in their 1 room apartment going on 5 months without leaving...
Hiding is just as bad as ignoring. Agreed!
If authorities could trust people to honor rules hockey could be possible. BB could be possible.
What Festivals are You Really Missing this Year?
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Sept 10 to 13.
Chianti Classico Festival, in Greve Tuscany
50th anniversary of the Black Rooster of Classico... Nero Gallo..
Attended the 40th....great wine, great food, great fun.
Will have a backyard party with social distancing to help the disappointment