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1 hour ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:
Just stop. There is no proof to this “McDictator ” nonsense that leads to his meddling being the root cause of every single issue.
McD doesn’t have more or less say over the draft than Beane does, they’re a team along with the rest of the scouts.Do you think it's a coincidence that 2017's first priority was overhauling their secondary? And yeah I know, Beane wasn't "officially" here yet.
Or that they prioritized signing Star to a 5 year 50M deal in 2018? You know, during the time they were getting out of the previous regime's cap issues?
Or, used 5 of 7 1st round picks on defense from 2017-2022?
Or, have targeted defensive players first in each UFA period save for perhaps 1 maybe 2 since McD took over?
Nah, McD isn't the prime voice at OBD. Not enough evidence. 👌
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1 hour ago, mjt328 said:
The Bills running back room is fine. As long as play-caller does a decent job of mixing it into the attack, the guys we got can be dangerous and effective.
But I do agree that a pass-heavy team SHOULD be loaded at the WR position. Just as Dalton Kincaid starts emerging, it seems as though Stefon Diggs is declining. And the other guys are just solid at best. We do more...
Before the last offseason, I feel like Brandon Beane's strategy has been to dedicate more resources to the Defense and hope that Josh Allen can elevate the guys on the other side of the ball. Unfortunately it was a really bad year to upgrade passing attacks. Free agency was really bare in the WR department, and all the good WR prospects were gone by our pick. Kincaid was a good consolation prize. The bright side is this upcoming draft class should be loaded at that position.
Beane is essentially McD. His primary responsibility is to work the personnel side on behalf of the roster priorities of the HC. And the past few off-seasons he either told McD the UFA priorities and draft needed to shift toward offense and was overruled or he didn't do it at all...we'll never know.
The football people making decisions lack aggressiveness to make their own way. Most of the time it's acceptable to be cautious, but there's a time to create an opportunity and not just wait for one. It's funny because there's an organizational trend to be risk-averse not only in personnel acquisition, but to play things safe in-game.
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47 minutes ago, mannc said:
McDermott richly deserves to be fired but, for all the reasons you’ve cited, it would just be too heavy of a lift for this organization right now. I do think that could change if the last five weeks of the season turn out to be a disaster…by the way, I think it would be possible for Beane to effectively fire McDermott, simply by recommending to Terry that they get a new coach. That would short-circuit some of the issues you've identified.
If Beane went along with McD drafting and signing all those defensive players as the offense was under-resourced, I'm real hesitant to believe that he'd stab the guy in the back who advocated him for GM. Beane can demonstrate l a used car salesman persona, but I'm not seeing it to that degree. Besides, it'd get around in league circles and make life hard for a guy in his mid to late 40s to find subsequent employment.
39 minutes ago, Gregg said:1. Owners eat contracts all the time. So, nothing new there.
2. Beane would be leading the charge. This thought they are a package deal isn't true. Terry can do whatever he wants. If he wants to keep one of them, he will.
3. Multi-billionare owner who owns a cash cow with the Bills can afford it.
4. See #2
5. Agree. that happens all the time in sports. Nothing new here if a new coach is brought in. Some changes need to be made anyway as their will be a reload, retooling of the roster.
6. Only if Beane is gone. If a new GM is coming in however then they are already up to speed on this stuff. He would just have to apply it to the Bills needs.
7. I wish Kim a full recovery and you know Terry is making sure Kim has the best doctors, nurses, medical staff with her 24-7-365 all the while being a supporting husband.
8. The new stadium may cost him more. So, what. Look at what he bought the Bills for and look at what they worth now and will be in the future. Owning an NFL team = owning a cash cow. Bottom line the Pegula's will be making more money with the Bills going forward.
Not as hard as you think.
I can see you've thought this through for all of about 5 seconds. And whiffed tremendously.
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2 hours ago, Gregg said:
Pegula is the owner. If he GAVE all the power to McDermott, then he could just as easily take it back. He doesn't have to regret anything just fix it.
Sure, it's that easy. To a fan that is.
Try looking at it from a business and operational perspective. If Pegula fires McD that means:
1. Eating 34M+ (I've read McD makes 8.5/per) of salary from a contract extended a few months ago through 2027.
2. Starting the process to interview HC candidates and hire another guy which TPegs hasn't really excelled at.
3. Paying that new HC market rate in addition to the cost to fire McD.
4. Probably needing to hire another GM because Beane and McD are a package deal. So, going through the GM interview process potentially. And making sure the new GM and HC can work together because that's kind of important for a NFL franchise.
5. That new leadership will introduce significant changes in the football operation, including new schemes and personnel priorities.
6. Having all the scouting done in the fall on college and pro prospects needing to be done by the new group.
7. Oh, and the guy leading this is in his early 70s with an ailing wife who winters in FL while the new stadium is being built that is costing more money than he'd originally expected.
Yeah, it's easy.
And for the record, I'm in favor of firing McD.
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16 hours ago, JohnNord said:
It’s not working for a 6-5 Houston Texans led by a former DC from San Fran
It’s likely Dunkirk Don
HC matchups in the SB going back the last 10 years show an overwhelming trend of offensive coaches who came up on that side. That's the better metric to illustrate where the league is going. The only guy you could make the case who's getting to the SB these last 10 years is Belichick and even then he's the best coach in NFL history. Even Pete Carroll hasn't won squat since 2014.
11 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:My major issue with McDermott is that we keep pouring resources into the defense and it's ok at best.
Other than that I can live with him.
It's been said before here that the Pegula's were regretting giving McD so much authority over their franchise. In fact, I'm not sure one guy has had that much pull at OBD ever: the HC who hired his own GM and is the major factor into personnel decisions. Sure, there's discussion during the off-season, but it's funny that most off-seasons right out of the gate they're signing defensive UFA's and, until Kincaid, were using that first round pick on McD's side of the ball.
11 hours ago, AlfaBill said:He has a Tesla so who cares
At least he doesn't have a Ford Taurus.
And, is Terry's Tesla self-driving? I don't think those are cleared for roads yet, but he is 72-73 now and older people don't always know to turn their turn signal off.
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6 minutes ago, Simon said:
Hey Terry, how about a little something for the effort?
- Dalai Lama
Will we as Bills fans receive total consciousness at the moment each game is lost?
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2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Honestly, I've never seen WR2 as big a need as most of this board. Especially with the emergence of Kincaid and Shakir. And Defense will obviously be where all the holes and needs are.
But with Diggs aging out and likely wrapping up his career in a couple years, it would be nice to have his replacement already on the team.
Every pass I see Shakir catch is against his body including the long score against the Jets. I wouldn't count on him as a candidate to be the Z receiver.
Kincaid is being used on underneath throws, but is better suited for downfield. If they elect to use him that way.
They've been addressing WR with lower-value options and it shows over the years with 1 year UFA deals and mid to low round draft picks.
Buffalo hasn't used a 1st or 2nd on a WR since Zay Jones...when the entire league is taking them high. Shakir and Kincaid shouldn't change that they need higher talent there.
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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:
Do it again. And again. They should load up on fast guys who can actually catch footballs.
There have to be some fast safeties who can catch footballs in next year's draft. Of course, they won't play because McD doesn't really trust rookies, but he'd have them ready for 2026 or so.
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2 minutes ago, theRalph said:
The cost of buying out McDermott's contract cannot be compared to stadium costs. This is such a poor take.
I'll put it this way. You build a new home that is originally going to cost you 300k. Building costs increase to the point that the builder comes back and says it'll now cost 400k before construction starts. You've obtained a mortgage for 300k and now gotta contribute more.
Oh, and the car could use new tires and brakes, but they're passable for now. You gonna spend that money as easily on the car now that the mortgage went up unexpectedly?
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2 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:
One thing I've been pondering regarding McDummy and the contract extension situation, perhaps an agreement is worked with the Pegulas and instead of getting fired and having to be on the hook to pay him the remaining years left he simply 'resigns' instead knowing he'd be under ridiculous pressure in 2024 to produce and a true lame duck and still able to collect some money.
Probably best case scenario at this point.
Few NFL HC's have as much authority within their franchise as McD does in Buffalo. The idea he'd willingly cede that because of media/fan pressure is completely asinine, particularly with a team-compliant media. Fans shouting from the roof-tops won't move the needle much either.
And then there's the pay thing. As far as we know, unless there's some sort of buyout provision in his contract, he's getting 4 years of salary (2024-2027) although a future position will defray that IIRC. I also doubt Pegula is going to eat ~25-30M and admit that contract extension, by virtue of firing McD, was a huge mistake.
The Bills are stuck with McD. Sure it's bad for the franchise, but moving on from him is more of a money thing than fans realize. And with Terry ponying up on new stadium cost overruns, it's not to his benefit because people still come to the games, buy the merchandise, and he gets his cut of the revenue sharing, which is upwards of 370M per now.
McD ain't quitting, nor would anyone with a brain do so with contract in hand. Maybe Terry makes the move, but there are other considerations to the decision.
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5 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
He doesn't have answers late in the game once an offense has figured out his initial plans.
In fairness, with regard to yesterday this is generally what happens to defense's against great offensive teams.........even Belichick had lot's of big games where his second half defense looked bad and blew or almost blew games they had in hand.
But to lose games late to bad offense's like McD has this year is unconscionable.
And to never have anything in the bag of tricks to stop the bleeding despite having a veteran laden defense and so many years in the same system? It's very discouraging.
On the broadcast Romo kept talking about how Philly was getting their running game outside and that was the key for them offensively. I remember one play in the RZ where Rousseau single-handedly stopped a run out there, but it happened rarely if ever beside that time.
It's as if McD knows the scheme is vulnerable against the run and wants to get off to quick starts and force opponents to throw into that zone. When things don't go that way, he's runs out of ideas quickly. That defense seems especially weak up the middle and I know Jones being out hurts, but it's unreal they haven't developed a way to mitigate that by week 12 and with all the DL investment.
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Beane's inability to resource an offense is not a coincidence that it perfectly complements the HC's lack of knowledge about NFL offense.
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17 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:
Every head coach (at least every decent one) is a "dictator". It's their job.
Hello class and thank you for enrolling in Conflation 101.
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Just now, SectionC3 said:
It’s self-serving, no doubt. Makes very little sense after a Monday game in which the offense left the field with a lead and the D and ST blew it. This is all about McD scapegoating Dorsey. I don’t see it as Machiavellian though. I see it as desperate because this season is barely even clinging to the brink and he probably would have had a mutiny on his hands if he didn’t do something.
McD has fired a coordinator after or during the 2021, 2022, and 2023 seasons. I can't recall in recent years a HC of a very good team firing that many and it is sure to raise ownership's eyebrows. Firing coordinators is evidence of dysfunction under his management of the team.
They have 7 games now because McD ain't going anywhere during the season save for a catastrophic collapse. I also think he benefits from TPegs likely not wanting to pay his 2024 and 2025 salaries with all those stadium cost over-runs on his tab now.
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McDermott just pulled a power play and people aren't seeing it.
Josh is being paid 43M per, so he isn't going anywhere. Still, he reportedly had input into elevating Dorsey to OC, but the decision was McD's.
McD has fired 4 coordinators in 7 years and likely will be under scrutiny if Buffalo doesn't get to the SB. That's highly unlikely with this roster.
Now, McD can spin this hire (and firing now) of Dorsey into that Josh wanted him and he did what he thought best for the franchise QB.
McD gets another crack at an OC if the season continues going sideways. And probably doesn't get fired by TPegs for this (so-far) bad season.
Might seem a bit Machiavellian, but this is McD we're talking about.
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After that play, I had the exact same thoughts as I did leaving the stadium for the Dallas MNF loss in 2007.
Mostly, just numb to it all.
Or, to more succinctly describe it all: "Billsy."
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6 hours ago, BillMafia716ix said:
Im sorry but this game is on 17. McDermott defense kept the Bills in it like always and once again Josh couldn’t deliver . Better QB play the Bills win this game easily.
What we see on the field from players is one cause. The game-plan, in-game calls, players they select to play/bench and even draft/sign, and a whole host of other reasons impact the final result.
Josh is a part of the problem. But he ain't the only thing wrong with that team. This season didn't go off the rails beginning in week 1. It's been coming.
Total overhaul of the organizational vision is required. Not going to happen with this HC and GM.
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1 hour ago, Beck Water said:
This is just my opinion, but I thought the Bills played like they didn't want to be in Cincinnati in that stadium playing the Bengals that night. I think if you looked at different tape of our lines and of the Bengals lines against different opponents, you might think the opposite.
I'd love some of the guys here who have played, especially on OL or DL to comment, but I've been told (by players/former players at different levels) that "defense (meaning DL) is a state of mind" and "you win in your mind first" (that from a HOF LT). That's what's behind Marv Levy's "where else would you rather be than right here, right now" and Poyer's "Be where your feet are". You have to 100% be in the game, mentally and physically, or you make mental mistakes on your assignment and get physically whupped. And if you do get physically whupped on a play, you have to flush it and focus on the next play.
People think football players are big dumb galoots and maybe there's some of that at the HS and at the lower college level, but professional football is clearly an elite mental game that also involves beating the crap out of the guy you're assigned to beat. Yes, guys can and will at times be physically overmatched, but at the professional level there's not usually that huge of a difference between backups and starters that an un-dinged backup who is 100% mentally in the game and physically revved up can't hold his own or beat an opposing starter who is a bit dinged (by mid season they all are), hesitant (thinking too much) or mentally, just a little bit somewhere else.
I think that stadium and evening right now is Bad Times, Bad Times for the Bills and they're all thinking about it. They're trying not to think about it - no doubt they've talked things through as a team and in position meetings and their sports psychologists and chaplains have been busy. But there's a "don't think about elephants" aspect. Even for players who are not super-stitious but only a "little stitious" it brings back very bad times. I thought having Damar brought into the locker and into a suite during the Bengals playoff game backfired on the team. And I think having Damien Harris injured earlier this season and carted off hit them hard and carried over into the following week.
I don't know how the coaches get the team over this. I think this may be one area where McDermott's coaching style of building a family where the players get to know about each other's backgrounds and lives and where he tries also to get to know the players as people and make it clear he's concerned about them and cares about them as people, may work against him a bit vs. a coach who keeps his distance and just chews ass. And I think McDermott gets a bit overloaded on weeks like this, where he's trying to be HC, DC, and keep an open door for any concerns.
Yeah, the Bengals were there too, but Damar isn't THEIR teammate and brother, and they were shortly afterwards able to get fired up to a froth by the idea of how unfair the league's solution was to them. Maybe there's a lesson there, in that I'm sure the coaches played their part in "selling" that idea and frothing them up.A lot of emotionally driven word salad to theorize that Buffalo is still damaged from that Week 16 game 10 months ago. I remember the Hamlin injury, at least in part, also cited on TBD then as a major cause for their post-season swoon versus Miami and again hosting Cincinnati.
Maybe there is a team-wide emotional matter, particularly playing in Cincinnati. But if that's true, it's more because generationally-speaking people aren't taught how to handle grief and tragedy. I think you theory is offered because culture at large now has a penchant for always trying to find excuses when problems appear. We can see the adversity, acknowledge it, grieve over it, but still continue.
I was at the Kevin Everett game in '07 and in the ensuing days and weeks don't recall his injury being suggested here or elsewhere as a potential consideration for team play. In fact, that Bills team went 5-3 afterward and considering they played Pittsburgh and New England the following weeks, one of those losses was the Dallas MNF game and DJ was HC, that's pretty good. That was about a generation ago, meaning players were later Gen X'ers to early millennials.
Heck, Darryl Stingley was paralyzed in a pre-season game in 1978 and New England went 8-2 to start the season. And one of those games was at Oakland where the injury happened...a NE win.
As to the general assumption that people think the players are "big dumb galoots" I and many other educated fans around here obviously do not believe that. Game prep has always been key at the pro level and it seems as though certain players aren't taking it as seriously. That's a work-ethic issue, not that players are "galoots." There will always be hard working lower talented players. There will be less hard working better players. And there will be the hard-working types with top-end talent. If there's a work-ethic issue, that's something on management who select and coach the players.
On both issues, it kind of mirrors society at large where people don't have mechanisms to cope with grief nor work as hard as previous generations, including NFL players.
And for the record I'm a late Gen X'er and not playing the "in my day-itis" card.
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1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said:
That counts as an article?
Gannett doing what they do best: offer clickbait garbage.
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15 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said:
No Fun League then, No Fun League now! Lots of people turned off the radio and stopped listening after that BS.I'm sure there were a lot of afternoon daily newspapers prematurely thrown in the trash by Maroons fans.
14 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:What about the 1921 Buffalo All-Americans, staring player-coach Tommy Hughitt. They was robbed too. This guy can play for my squad any day.
What the heck was Warren Harding doing back then aside from covering up his affair?
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I want the 1925 Pottsville Maroons to get credit for the NFL Championship they won and rightfully deserve recognition for!
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23-20 Bills
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20 hours ago, DuckyBoys said:
hes trying to hide his jacked up defense by slowing the pace of the offense down McDermott still believes in the philosophy of keeping games close and hoping they come out on top He's just a Dick Jauron clone except Jauron lacked Josh Allen
Jauron also didn't have anything close to the financial support this group has. During the DJ years, by mid-season, they'd dress guys off the street because their depth was nil. People here talk about the need for mid-season acquisitions, but back then I remember names of UDFAs and street FA's who got playing time when 1 guy went down. Jauron's teams were so under-resourced that they used the draft to fill needs they couldn't afford to in UFA or because UFA's wouldn't come. Buffalo was NFL Siberia from around 2006 until maybe when TPegs bought the team.
For as much as Belichick is despised, he was ahead of the curve when it came to becoming an offensive-focused team. NE missed the playoffs in 2005 after 3 SB wins in 4 seasons. Against Indy in the 2006 AFCCG, Brady had the likes of Reche Caldwell (RIP) at WR. The result was Belichick grabbed Moss and Welker the following season. Didn't guarantee a SB, but the game had shifted and would continue to. BB was ahead of the curve.
I haven't seen McD adapt at anything more than a snail's pace since he took the job. Even with an, albeit flawed, franchise QB.
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I hope that Beane stops listening to McDermott when drafting
in The Stadium Wall
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Name them. And then compare those to moderate to major (EDIT: defensive) signings and give me the delta.