Git'er Done
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No, not clever. Fact. Unless McGahee gets moved, which doesn't seem to be happening, RB is pretty low on the list this year.
I stated that this was under the assumption that McGahee was going! It's right there. Personally, I want the Bills to keep McGahee if that's what you want to bicker about. I don't know what is happening exactly (either do you), but it seems as likely as not that he will be gone. He is adequate.
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Actually, we have a RB.
Clever
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So then you're saying Peterson or bust?
No. I see Lynch rated as a top 15 guy all over the place, but if the Bills don't feel that way, I don't want them to take him. In fact, I think they are in a quandry because next years crop of backs looks better, but they need someone now. Drafting a subpar back in the 2nd this draft would be a waste. I realize that some 2nd rounders turn out great, but I feel you should play the odds, and get a top ranked guy, or don't bother, for the reason given above. An "average" back probably won't take you to the Promised Land. Hence the Super Bowl winner comment.
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General point for the board: taking a running back higher than he deserves to go does not increase his chances of success. The only RB who deserves to go as high as 12 is Peterson, and he will be long gone. It doesn't make sense to take Lynch at 12 just because higher drafted RB's play in the Superbowl.
I didn't say they should take a running back if he doesn't merit it just to have a 1st round RB. The point is an "elite" back is the way to go. Willis would be considered by many a "reach"at 12 as well. I don't want them reaching for anyone. We don't know much about Willis or Lynch beyond the field of play.
I just don't like the idea that we HAVE to take Willis because of the panic about our defense.
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Sorry, cannot do a linky, but Czarnecki of FoxSports points out how some NFL teams are wondering how the Bills could go out and sign Dockery and Walker to deals in excess of $70 million while complaining about small market status and the need for big market teams to share their profits. I had a feeling that this would happen.
For what it is worth, Czarnecki also notes that many NFL teams would have only paid Walker the veteran minimum base salary (and certainly not the $10 million in guarantees that the Bills gave him).
I like the Dockery signing and the strategy the Bills used to get him. Steinbach is very good, but not a power run blocker. Plus, he seemed interested in Cleveland. Dielman wanted to stay in San Diego and Davis is overrated (and now overpaid). The Bills targeted the best run blocking guard that was available and a possibility for the Bills.
FOX News??!?
They are probably in one of the "New Guard" owners' pockets. They are a "newscast" for hire.
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I really don't think the Bills are just assuming they will pick Patrick Willis. Like "we can get O-linemen now, and a free agent running back" cause Patrick Willis is gonna start at linebacker" I think they will try to get another linebacker in FA, maybe an average no-name guy.
I think they will choose between a running back or a linebacker or possibly a CB, and pick the guy they feel will have the biggest impact. Drafting strictly for need is for losers.
We certainly need a running back as much as we need linebacker (assuming McGahee is gone).
I have said before, a high pick RB that doesn't live up to his draft status is just about a wasted pick because only one RB is on the field. A linebacker that doesn't live up to his draft status can still start, if he isn't a gamebreaker you still get some value.
People keep saying that running backs in the second round are a good value. That might be more true of 2nd round linebackers. Check out how many Super Bowl winners have a #1 draft choice running back, especially the teams that win more than one.
Lots of running backs are busts, I prefer the Bills play the odds and use the #1 on a back.
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I would do it. Give up a 3rd and sign him to a nice long contract would be just fine............ Best available of LB, RB, and CB with our first 2 picks with the odd position out having to wait for day two. It's gonna be hard to fix everything folks..................
I just posted the same thing. Bravo
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Redskins signed MLB-LFB
I really don't think the Bills are just assuming they will pick Patrick Willis. Like "we can get O-linemen now, and a free agent running back" cause Patrick Willis is gonna start at linebacker" I think they will try to get another linebacker in FA, maybe an average no-name guy.
I think they will choose between a running back or a linebacker or possibly a CB, and pick the guy they feel will have the biggest impact. Drafting strictly for need is for losers.
We certainly need a running back as much as we need linebacker (assuming McGahee is gone).
I have said before, high pick RB that doesn't live up to his draft status is just about a wasted pick because only one back is on the field. A linebacker that doesn't live up to his draft status can still start, he just isn't a gamebreaker you still get some value.
People keep saying that running back in the second round are a good value, that might be more true of 2nd round linebackers. Check out how many Super Bowl winners have a #1 draft choice running back, especially the teams that win more than one.
Lots of running back are busts, I prefer the Bills play the odds and use the #1 on a back.
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I have to think that Whitner, Simpson and Ellison will be marginally if not significantly better. I am hoping that McCargo is a decent player with flashes of his first round potential. I am pretty confident that Crowell can take the place of Fletcher in the middle. I am hoping that Spikes can return to near form, or that we release him and use the 5 mil to sign a decent replacement. I would have to think that the second year in the defense will make the guys who were missing all kinds of lanes and assignments and angles will be able to cut down on the ridiculous amount of long runs and 10+ yard runs that we gave up.
That said, losing Nate will hurt a lot. McGee will have to step up. Kiwi will need to be resigned. Youboty will have to not be an embarrassment. We need some kind of veteran replacement for Nate. At least a serviceable DT acquisition like Ian Gold or the like could help a lot. Not make us good but close some of the floodgates.
One of the ways the defense can be better is the offense controlling the ball, and the offense being able to get a lead or two so the defense doesn't have to play on its heals and let other teams run all day on them, but rather be forced to pass a little more.
I also think that Fewell did pretty well with what he had to work with. Remember, we were middle of the pack in defense the second half, especially in scoring defense, and that was without Crowell, Spikes and McCargo, as well as having to teach the defense to the team and the NFL to Whitner and Simpson.
I think the defense will operate at about the same level, Aside from Nate, I don't think they will lose much without Fletcher (or is it Baker?) and the very average TKO.
But the offense?
I feel it is gonna be awesome. Like you said, a good offense can really help the defense stay fresh, very important with the Cover 2.
People like to panic.
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The NFL network is running shows on NFL QBs right now. One called "Masters of the Game" and the second one on right now is called NFL QB the art and science of quarterbacking.
The 1st show just had a mini-feature about Warren Moon.
They talked about him going to the CFL.
He said there were three strikes against him when he came out of college. He said they told him he
1. didn't have a strong enough arm.
2. didn't come from a "pro style offense".
3. he was too short.
After watching the show "Third and a mile" (Black QB show on NFL network), I convinced it's because he's not 6-3. He was simply too short.
P.S. Why would the NFL take Doug Williams with the 1st pick and not Moon? They were only a few years apart.
Doug Flutie was too short, not Warren Moon.
Are you a short man living vicariously through another short man (Doug Flutie)?
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There is if you are building for the 2008 season instead of the 2007 one....
Exactly.
It would be pointless to sign 3 lineman and not have anyone decent to run the ball. They will add a new RB.
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The Bills current RBs, including FBs, are:
Willis McGahee
Shaud Williams
Fred Jackson
Guys, that's not much. If McGahee is traded as expected, I'd say that's easily the biggest hole on the roster. Even if Anthony Thomas is re-signed, I'd still think the Bills would give Lynch very strong consideration, as Thomas is little more than a decent backup and spot starter.
It would be pointless to add the three lineman to the offense, and then not have a decent running back.
They are gonna add a new RB (if Willis is gone). I hope they use the 1st on a back, and the rest on defense.
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The is exactly what I have been thinking as well.....
The thing is....given the improvements on the line you know know Magehee is going to have a monster year.....
Take a RB in the 3rd round....
I have also been having some second thoughts about the 1st selection.....UNLESS we get a quality corner in free agency like Nick Harper...then we are going to have to take a corner in eiher the first or second round.....Because we took 2 DT's last year we cant take Okoye in the first this year
My ideal situation is being able to trade down a bit to get an extra pick.....still get Patrick WIllis, and going corner in the 2nd round
LB, Corner, Running Back
Yeah, it's easy, just pick up a franchise back in the 3rd round. That's where most Super Bowl teams find their featured back.
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I think that Shaud was re-signed for MORE than just a 3rd RB and change of pace back. He is one of the few players still left from the Meathead regime. Something also tells me that another reason why he was re-signed was because Marv and co. like what he brings from a character standpoint.
Why else would he be re-signed with his minimal playing time last year and A-Train is still in a state of flux?
That's what I'm worried about.
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Where does everyone think Dokery is going to play LG, everything I have read says he played RG with Washington. Maybe they re-sign Gandy for left and Dockery with Pennigton/Walker on the right
It's pretty obvious that they aren't going to resign Gandy.
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did you watch Dillon run last year...I think I can run faster then him...he is still good in short yardage and finding the endzone and he will want to sign with a team he thinks is contending for a ring and he wont think thats with Buffalo
A guy like him could get old real quick, like between now and halfway through next season (or earlier)
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I think we go change of pace back and get Michael Bush in the 2nd. He would compliment someone like Shaud or whatever FA interim RB they brought in.
It would be like the Steelers a in '06: Bettis and WIllie Parker. RB by Comittee is the vogue thing to do in today's NFL.
C'mon, Shaud Williams?
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While I agree that its possible to find quality RBs later on and am not entirely opposed to it, I think they'd be better served by balancing their draft with a RB in R1 and drafting heavily on defense thereafter. If Lynch is drafted at 12, I would not be shocked to see them devote the entire remainder of their draft to the defensive side. That still allows them to do a ton of building on the defensive side while also adding an elite prospect at RB in R1.
Yep, think big, go for the best you can get. I just hope that Marshawn has his head on straight and is worthy of the pick. He and Peterson seem to be the only top shelf guys this season.
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I agree...it's all about establishing a dominant running game. Which is GREAT to see. But, I agree with the Michael Bush scenario. I think Marv is looking for his next Thurman.
BTW......5 years from now, can you imaging Willis McGahee sitting around regretting the fact that he just couldn't get it together enough to be the RB for this team?
In what way is Michael Bush like Thurman Thomas other than he's a running back? I think Marshawn Lynch has some similar attributes (can catch the ball, good inside runner). I don't think either one will come close to Thurmans' career.
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I heard the same things when Bennie Anderson was signed. The exact same things! How did that go?
I would rather they signed Steinbach. When the Bills acquire a Pro Bowl player or two I'll get excited.
The guy they got from Minnesota is no better than Villarial. Clements and Fletcher are gone with nothing to show for it - why weren't they traded last year?
I watched Oakland play (unfortunately I live in the NFL coverage TV area) every week and you are absolutely crazy if you think Langston Walker is a big upgrade at RT. The Oakland OL was a complete disaster and their QB's got KILLED every week. One of the worst offenses in NFL history!
Apparently, most of the posters have no idea about him.
The enthusiasm is understandable, but naive and premature to put it politely.
I never heard that (or thought that) when Bennie Anderson was signed. The line is gonna be alot better. And JP is gonna be alot better
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Really, we may be just one right guard from having a very legit playoff-caliber o-line.
You know, JP must be one happy man today.
They are already playoff caliber
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Maybe Shaud Williams is now the featured back
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in my mind our line woes are gone.. as a bills fan im excited for that.. but there are three more aquisitions bills need to make 2007 a 10 win season
Free Agency- cato june becuase he fits the scheme and will be more affordable then porter and thomas
Draft
round 1- leon hall (best cb in draft maybe will have us saying "Nate who?")
round 2- Quinn Pitcock (3rd best DT in draft might make it to pick 44, can someone tell me why we offered anderson a tender?)
would anyone else be satisfied?
Who is gonna run the ball? Still have to get a back
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I am so glad that the Bills have spent on the offense.
My theory is that the the offense is just coming together but if it regresses this season it could kill the new core of the team.
Without a running game (of course, they still need a running back), the pass game would falter, Losman loses confidence, the defense starts pointing fingers, the team is divided and we're back to ground zero.
This season, if the offense flourishes but the defense is worse, the Bills will have solidified one side of the ball, and can get to work on the other. But if the offense sucks, we probably have to bring in another quarterback.
Here's all I need to know about Marshawn Lynch
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Everyone raves about Maurice Drew, Reggie Bush, those guys are doing alright in the Pros.