Zulu Cthulhu
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Tell that to cleveland, and denver, and kansas city. Seriously if you want to just cherry pick we can do that too. How about some actual stats besides the fact the guy is very smart. Lots of very smart guys are floating around out there, including many other rocket engineers. Sorry but I know he's been successful in NE but a lot of guys have. And then they failed on their own.Talked about the success of a coaching tree
Sorry there are successes in that coaching tree to include one in the Playoffs this year. But keep dismissing good candidates because they come from the best ever coach
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I am not a rocket scientist.
Saban hmmmm granted college but hmmm
Bill Obrien guess playoffs is bad
Al Groh left the NFL with. Winning record to go to college
Ferentz seems tk be doing fine
Oooo the Board loves Schwartz
But thats ok just think of Mangini, Weis And Romeo (Book not finished on McDaniels yet)
Dipping in to college to back up your flimsy point good job. Because that's the same thing. Yeah sure Schwartz put up a good defense, as a coordinator here. What's his head coaching record look like? What else? You're suggesting McDaniels - the best is yet to come? I'll believe when I see it. But hey if college success is your new metric why not dial up Saban. Or Spurrier.
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Yeah no intelligence there. None just. Meat head like Rex
Lol sure bud. I'm not the one with typos in every other post he makes. Why don't you pause the ad hominem BS and address the fact that all the assistants from BB's coaching tree have been failures. We'll wait buddy.
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No...Bellichick assistants suck as HC's...literally none have done well...black mark on him...
great coaches should have their assistants becoming good coaches...Parcells, Walsh, Reid, etc...all of them have had assistants leave to become good head coaches...Bellichick doesn't help his assistants become better coaches, he only helps them become excellent at the job they are doing at that moment. It's good for Bellichick but it reflects poorly on him...
This. Much more relevant than a guy's academic background.
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Wow supporters of MP really leaning on this rocket engineer stuff huh? Means nothing.
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Lotta credit for committing to posting this word salad in full. This is so far flung from reality I can't even begin to address it, besides pointing out what others have already said above. I'll lend you my compass, map, sextant, crampons, sherpa, and sloop. Meet us back in the real world and post again.The Pegula's remind me of the Beverly Hillbillies. They are "new" money people. Unlike people who inherited their wealth like Trump, the new money people often remind me of lottery winners. They are gullible and spendthrift, making silly purchases that evaporate their wealth overnight. Pegula outbid the Donald to show he "arrived" and was a player. Trump smartly smirked laughed it off and said Pegula overpaid, and because he spent too much Buffalo would "never be a winner".
By all accounts Pegula is a smart man, but with new de-regulation coming for the fracking industry there could be a boom/bust period in the natural gas industry. With federal lands being opened for development to fracking its possible the new POTUS who is as smart as he is wicked may still harbor a grudge against Pegula.
When we turn to Pegula's spending we can see a cause for concern. So far Pegula has dropped $189 million on the Sabres, $1.4 billion on the Bills, and $102 million to his alma-mater Penn State. He's also splurged developing the harbor center which cost over $180 million.
The Pegula's fell for the salesman Rex Ryan, like they fell for Russ Brandon's council. Want to rebuild a suspect franchise? Start by distancing yourself from company yes men.
Add it all up and Pegula may be just about maxed out his cash reserves. What could hurt Pegula is the "Russ Brandon" effect or the general consensus that many long term fans are growing apathetic to the franchise. Apathy doesn't drive new revenue. This can be evidenced by tracking season ticket churn rate and the half empty stadiums thanks in part to the general concession tickets simply not selling in late season games. When this happened before Brandon was able to get liquidity by pitching the ludicrous idea that Toronto could stabilize the Bills franchise. This was sold as these are late season games that generally fans don't want to attend. I don't recall late season games being much of a problem in the late 80s early 90s.
Brandon is a great marketer, but he looked amateurish in the video series of how the Bills traded up for Sammy Watkins. Brandon's lust for putting PR and marketing above developing a winning culture will almost certainly cost Pegula hundreds of millions of dollars. When Pegula realizes a new stadium is untenable due to declining TV and falling ticket revenue he will be forced to finance a stadium that a post-industrial Buffalo cannot afford.
It can be said that Pegula is a lottery winner simply living a dream he hasn't woke up from. Sadly for us fans we are living a 17 year nightmare.
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I've done many as well - and you're right, in hindsight, both of those deals could have been done (slightly) better. But mario was going to get paid by someone, with comparable guaranteed money. And, he actually produced most of the time he was here. So not sure what the problem is there.Ever negotiate a contract? I have. He negotiates the clauses or lack there of. Whaley gives him a not to exceed value for the player he negotiates everything to do with that contract under the not to exceed.
So he gets the out clause in Taylors contract (Good)
He also doesnt have a recoup clause negotiated in Dareus Contract (Bad)
See how that works.
Lets not forget two of the most player friendly contracts in NFL history Mario and Dareus are his as well.
Could JO and the rest of them insist on stricter character clauses in Dareus's deal? Sure. I get what you're saying there too. But he's played up to his potential (and contract) as well, when he's on the field.
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I can handle that take- some act like he's just a lackey doing everyone else's work. At the very least I think he's relatively high in the pecking order and has held influence for a good bit of this run.
I have ZERO clue his opinion on individual choices so I'm not advocating that he's good or bad as much as trying to acknowledge that he's highly present and has a real role.
We generally have no idea what sway he and Russ and formerly littman and some of these long time high level officers of the team hold. To peg it all on them seems as silly as to likewise absolve them completely. Whether it's an individual or the process or the group--- something hasn't worked in upper management across decades now
Exactly. Way I look at it is there's not a lot of insight to be gained conjuring up executive level conspiracy theories about in-house backstabbing, overstepping, power struggles, or whatever else - doubt anyone here has the access or info to back those theories up. Real simple, if you want to blame someone, blame ownership. Wilson and the Pegulas are responsible for this laughingstock playoff drought. All these executives and other assorted lackeys serve at the pleasure of the owners. If they've been, in your opinion, in power for too long, ain't their fault is it?
I know it sucks, since the owners are the only ones that can't get fired, but that's where the blame lies. Anything else is just passing the buck.
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What exactly do you define his job as - try to really build it out though, as he's a long term high level executive so he surely has some level of legit responsibility
I can't say for certain, I don't have any inside information, but this is (broadly) what I do. Based on that Saint I would say JO has some influence and responsibility. For instance, with the sheer number of contract negotiations he's done over the years, he probably has opinions on contractual things that ownership would listen to. But I wouldn't conflate that influence to include making the actual hiring/firing of players, and the makeup of the team or the overall team philosophy on the field.
Look if the Pegulas turned around January 2 and fired everyone, including JO and Russ and on down, I wouldn't complain. But these threads just seem like some sick exercise of scapegoating, with everyone trying to assign percentages of blame to a rotating roster of guys.
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Not pay could care less. He does negotiate the internal clauses or lack there of (Dareus)
Structure of contract ie bonuses and such.
Not saying he is the final say on total value of the contract but all the minutiae of a contract he DOES negotiate and decide on. Keep thinking he is just a cap guy lol
I never said he was "just a cap guy," nor do I even know what that means. I don't think Overdorf's job is limited to just calculating and managing salary cap issues, if that's what you're implying. He is involved in negotiating terms and conditions of player contracts. What he ain't doing is deciding to cut players or "not pay them" or whatever you're implying. He's not the one with the final say, never has been. He grinds the contracts out with the players' representatives based on what ownership and the football people have told him is acceptable.
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Yet every Report says otherwise
Even out of the own GMs mouth. And reported structure that he doesnt report to Whaley he reports to Russ
Sonwe have a GM that is in charge if nothing but scouting. Cool.
HC reports to owner
Contract guy reports to Russ
Russ sets the football Budget (same thing Litman did)
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Whaley said during an appearance on WGR 550. "But (Bills senior vice president of football operations) Jim Overdorf and (agent) David Dunn have had continuous conversations for a while now, so we hope something positive comes from that.
Just a cap guy though lol
You're still not getting it. Negotiating a contract and executing one are not the same thing. You seem to think Overdorf is deciding who to sign and pay basically on his own. And you're cherry picking quotes and misinterpreting them to attempt to support this. You can continue to rave, but you're not convincing anyone fyi.
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Does the in-house counsel of a company decide unilaterally to conclude a deal or settle a lawsuit? No. The owners/executives always have final say. Same deal here. OP seems to have a warped view of what Overdorf's powers and responsibilities really are. Probably should have researched a little more before composing this screed.
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When trading a coach, does the coach need to agree to the trade? How does that even work... I could see him saying oh hell naw
Probably depends on his specific contract. Could have a no trade clause in it.
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Why do you consider him an obvious choice? What do you like about Lynn?
You're right, resume is thin to be an obvious candidate, shouldn't have used that word. But I'd say that it doesn't surprise me if the rumor was true and he was under consideration. He's done well here and in NY with the teams' running games. If I had to guess, LA will nab a much bigger fish though to make a splash, and they won't have any shortage of suitors given their market.
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For what it's worth, that news conference wasn't the media's finest moment.
We have off days, too.
For what it's worth, also, those painting their criticisms of the media with a wide-sweeping brush are wrong.
jw
This is all true - but I think a certain few in the local sports press seem to have a lot more off days than their peers, and this was just the latest example. Your reporting is always top notch JW.
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Great question and I'm not a physician either so I'm not going to presume to know anything about the ins and outs of the consequences of possessing the trait. True it's genetic so he's obviously possessed it entire life. From the little i've read about his situation Brown is experiencing leg pain this season caused, in part, by the sickle cell trait. Maybe the ailment and the recent diagnosis are related? Not sure. We've a few doctors that kick around this board maybe they can elaborate more.Serious question: if his problems stem from sickle-cell anemia, how can he ever get "healthy"? That's a genetic trait that he presumably has had his entire life. So what changed this year, and what would change going forward? I don't know a ton about sickle-cell.
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I don't blame the media for being on a witch hunt, look what Ryan has done to this defense. He should burn.
Bolded, come on man be serious. But if we ignore reality for a moment, do you think anything changes if they make it by an act of god and get smoked by 50 in the first round?
Well you should blame them. The poor performance of the team in general or the defense in particular should have absolutely nothing to do with the level of professionalism displayed by the press corps. That guy in the video sounded like a small child.
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He and John Brown both disappeared this season. I really thought Floyd was going to be "the man" a few years ago, but it never translated at the NFL level.
John Brown was diagnosed as having the sickle cell trait midseason, and the effects of that condition have hurt his production. He's outstanding when healthy so not really fair to lump him in with Floyd.
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It's one guy attempting to nitpick about an irrelevant point and other members of the media there clearly got exasperated. And they're right, makes no difference.
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If LA doesn't land Carroll/Harbaugh/McDaniels then Lynn is an obvious candidate. Good for him too I hope he's seriously considered.
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I'd rather have 3 November home games to: 1) avoid the December weather and 2) attend more meaningful games but the second point isn't really the league's fault. It would be a nice bone for the league to throw us but honestly, as others have said above, the way this club plays we don't deserve a better schedule.
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Agreed on all his points.
He's still a thin skinned little B word though
Lol what happened did you get into a twitter war with TG and get completely embarrassed?
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People who came in late to this thread didn't see the photoshopped pic in the original post that was removed and do not realize the thread is a joke.
Ah, another one of the million failed attempts to be funny that clog this place every week. Makes sense now.
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Wouldn't be the stupidest thing the Bills have ever done, but it'd be close.
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I'd roll with EJ at a vet minimum contract for a year so long as it guarantees the bills the top draft pick. With EJ i dont see that being too difficult. If it gets Whaley fired in the process even better.