2020 Our Year For Sure

That's cool, man. I spend too much time on here too, especially in the offseason when changes are happening and I'm filled with false hope! lol I don't really blame you for being down on Whaley, its perfectly fair at this point. My stance during the season was that he's about an average GM and that there was no wrong answer whether they wanted to keep him or fire him. He seems to me to be roughly in-line with what other teams get from their FOs. In honesty Peter I would have slightly preferred Whaley had left simply to clean out the house and get a fresh start. But again, okay with him staying too. The concern I do have now is that IF they brought Whaley back, I wanted him to hire his OWN guy and finally be on the hook once and for all, and I'm again left wondering whether that is what's happening here. But I digress. The thing regarding the Rex hire narrative is that it wasn't always important to me whether Whaley was AGAINST Rex from the start, or was perfectly fine with Rex but he just wasn't Whaley's top choice. What was important to me was simply that he wasn't Whaley's top choice, but he WAS the Pegulas' choice. That meant that the GM was having a coaching candidate pushed on him by non-football people who happened to be his brand new bosses. His top choice was apparently the same guy who was my top choice at the time, Hue Jackson, so I naturally found that part encouraging. As a Bills fan I hope you're wrong about Whaley feeling insecure about Rex being there. Because my opinion of Rex is so much lower than yours, I'm a lot more prone to chalk Whaley's displeasure up to football reasons. But you could very well be right I have no idea. Go Bills

Yeah my post was just to let you know that its certainly been out there for a couple years, its not like people are just making it up now. I don't have any trial-worthy evidence for you. It was actually a prominent poster here who brought us the scoop at the time, I believe. That's probably why Promo said what he said.

ever since Rex was hired there's been a narrative that Whaley's top choice was Hue Jackson while the Pegulas loved Rex. I and others have believed it to be the case the whole time Rex has been here. Not saying its definitely the case but there's nothing new or hindsight about it.

Hopefully the players do, too.

Yes it seems that you are.

How sweet it is

One thing I feel the Bills need are standards, expectations. To be a Bill means you're expected to do this this and this, on and off the field all year long. With Marrone Hughes would do one dumb thing and would be pulled. Rex lets Mario dance on the field all year and does nothing. Marrone had this corny thing about 'what it means to be a Bill.' A lot of successful sports organizations have that same focus on creating a standard of expectation- it was not a focus under Rex. Maybe, just maybe I have no idea, McDermott can bring quiet accountability with a realness and relatability that Marrone may have lacked.

He doesn't seem like the loud type but maybe

Those are welcome words.

John's whispers hinted that this was a Pegula move rather than a Whaley move. Leroi is adamant in the shoutbox that its all Whaley. Interesting stuff, I thank em both for speaking up.

Great info! Thanks. Ragland seems like an awkward fit. Exciting that we could have a pass rush in Buffalo again.

If this is the hire I expect to be back here in 2 years with a new front office and coaching staff. Could be wrong...

Norv Turner? Oy vey

I hope the Bills approached it the same way.

That is more like it, right in the ol' wheelhouse.

Actually the article indicates that he will not be OC:

On his brother's advice? Certainly not on mine! Very interesting.

Thank you jboyst. I hope you're right about big 99, you can build a strong defense around this line. Safety play being less emphasized comes as a timely blessing...

Where does his pass rush come from? Do you expect Dareus, KW and Hughes to get back up to producing the way they did under Pettine and Schwartz?

Chan's specialty

if Lynn doesn't want to stay as OC then how do you propose they keep that offense? It would be dumb to promote Lynn to HC and pass on who they feel is a superior coach just to keep Greg Roman's offense. Changing schemes is what happens when you hire bad head coaches. When I asked them to fire Rex I knew this could happen. You don't know if Lynn will want to work with the incoming HC or the other way around. For me the priority would have been to think big picture and hire the best Head Coach to build the football program the right way, rather than worrying about scheme.

Its what happens when you fire coaches as we were forced to do to Rex. McDermott's guy is McCoy, not Lynn. Lynn may in fact be the Chargers HC. McCoy is an outstanding candidate to take over the offense, its rare the Bills get a coordinator as qualified as he is.

I had this post from Hapless Bills Fan in another thread buzzing in my head. Also I remember him in a shouting match with Larry Fitzgerald back in AZ, he seems like he marches to his own drum. Which if harnessed with discipline can be a good thing, I think. I am not as high on him as HBF.

My interest is pretty much the same as yours, and I'd insert Todd Haley 4th after Butler. Curious if he has grown up since KC. None of the candidates excite me all that much from the outside but they're all worth a shot in different ways. I hope we focus on getting the best Head Coach rather than thinking about fixing a particular side of the ball, or scheme fits, etc. Look at the big picture and get the guy who can build a football program from the ground up and understands how to win in today's league. As a know-nothing observer I do get the impression the Rex hire came from ownership. If they don't trust Whaley to hire his top choice this time then he shouldn't be heading the football operation.

Git r dun Kim. I like this kid, he's not scared to throw the ball and he's chill in the pocket.