2020 Our Year For Sure
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5 hours ago, John from Riverside said:
Funniest guy on here Has to go to teef
@BADOLBILZ for me
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4 hours ago, HappyDays said:
They also openly flirted with OBJ near the end of last season, and Beane earlier this offseason in response to a question about Hopkins said something to the effect of "We still haven't closed the door on OBJ either" (before he signed with the Ravens). So yes he clearly understands we need an upgrade at WR2 and he hasn't been shy about admitting it. I don't know how any Bills fan looks at these pursuits and thinks the team is 100% satisfied with Davis.
I'm getting tired of Beane's recurring line - "if someone wants to come here and chase a Super Bowl, we would love to have them." The implication being that players like OBJ and Hopkins should accept less than they're worth because our organization is oh so great. It's an excuse that insults both the players and the fans. Von Miller didn't accept a discount. Beane knows what every player is really after. And everyone knows Hopkins is attainable if Beane pulls on the right strings. His public attitude of "oh well, what can we do?" is getting old. But somehow some fans still buy it.
Imagine getting Stefon Diggs and then waiting 4 years and counting before using another major asset at WR. Awful management in my opinion.
The day the Bills got Diggs my attention immediately went to "Now how do we get Brandon Aiyuk too?" Four years later and still nothing is laughably stupid.
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3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
No I think you you are ignoring that the Bengals OL has been worse than the Bills the past 2 years and they lost a close game in the SB and nearly beat the Chiefs again in the AFCCG in that span. Beating the league's premier team in the Chiefs in 4 of their last 5 meetings. Hell they beat the Bills in Buffalo with an OL full of backups to their already not-good OL.
Much to the chagrin of many the Bengals are very current proof that you don't necessarily even need a "good" OL to get to a SB. The quality of your WR corps has actually proven to be more of an indicator of top end success in the past 6 years..........hence the concern about the position.
That being said........offensive lines are part of the equation for sure and everyone would prefer to have a good one and Philly and KC do have very good ones. In the case of Philly it really elevates their QB from good to excellent. But the rest of the perceived "contenders" like Buffalo, Cinci, San Francisco, Miami and NY Jets are all projected to rank between 17-24 by PFF this year.
Philly also has two beast receivers on the outside. Something Josh Allen has NEVER had in his career. And may never have. Especially with Beanedermott being extended
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28 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
In the one game where Kumerow replaced Davis, he had 3 targets and 50 yds.
OTOH, Rodgers thought well of Kumerow as a receiver, so IDK.
When that's the best you got...
19 minutes ago, eball said:Yes, this is precisely how rational, reasonable observers assess Brandon Beane's performance as Bills GM.
For ***** sake. 🙄
Something being the norm does not make it rational. Far from.
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We've known for a long time an offense needs two WRs. Reed AND Lofton. Moulds AND Price. It's only gotten more important since then, not less. Allen and Diggs are special but they can only do so much. Give them help at ALL costs in my opinion.
The moment we traded our 1st rounder for Diggs my attention immediately turned to "Now is there a way we can snag Brandon Aiyuk too?" Here we are 3 years later and nothing of substance at this pivotal position. Go ahead and spin it but I think this is laughably poor management of a modern football team.
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23 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Dude: we get it that Gabe Davis is not Tee Higgins or Jalen Waddle.
But can we agree there's a fair distance between those two guys, and a "bunch of crap"? Yeah, we want him to have fewer drops, and be thrown more catchable passes. But by a number of metrics, he's actually at the top of the #2s and a number of teams don't have a #1 with his production.
He gets numbers because Josh is the QB and there's nobody else. His primary backup was Jake Kumerow ferkryin out loud
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3 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
You're operating as if there's no chance Davis can rebound after his first year as a starter dealing with injuries, Kincaid won't have a solid Rookie season, and Harty will underperform/won't stay healthy.
Maybe 1 or 2 of those things will happen. But all of them? I wouldn't bet on it. And that's not taking into account already having Diggs and Knox, solid pass catching RB's in Cook and Hines, as well as Wild Cards like Justin Shorter and Trent Sherfield.
This team has weapons.
Diggs a rookie and a bunch of crap.
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^ Man you "optimists" are in a dark place these days.
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I like Ben Johnson and was surprised he didn't get more love this cycle but it doesn't make sense to have Josh Allen learn the convoluted West Coast language when he's always been in the more-efficient Erhardt-Perkins language. Need an EP guy. I'd interview Mike Kafka.
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6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
But fans don't have to come to terms with anything. The Bills just have to prove themselves right. I said last offseason that they were making a mistake by not prioritizing offense over defense and letting their WR corps go to camp in the shape it was. Defense is simply the harder side of the ball to predict results accurately from season to season......that's just the reality. You have to remain measured when investing on that side of the ball. It wasn't impossible for the team to ride the defense to a SB championship in 2022........but it really put the onus on McBeane to make it happen........because the predictable aspect that they were more likely to be able to make GREAT was the offense.
Why would you try to win with defense when you have Josh Allen? Just stupid. Chiefs are so much better-managed than we are.
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Fortunately we drafted other WRs high so we're not completely reliant on one guy!
Oh I forgot we're talking about the dumb*ss stuck-in-last-century Buffalo Bills.
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13 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:
Liked this player since his UGA days, and should still have something left in the tank. Good signing to shore up the DL while we wait for Vin to return.
Your Cousin Vinny comin back?
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I've been hoodwinked, bamboozled, the wool pulled over my eyes
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29 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:
Davis is the new Edmunds.
Yeah he sux
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2 hours ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said:
Maybe I'm the only one or at least one of the few but I'm not really all that impressed or obsessed with this player like those on this board. Personally I believe he'll be more of a problem in the locker room than he will be a benefit on the field. I know so many are just so enthralled by his gifted athleticism as a wide receiver but I am not and I will see no problem moving on from him whether it be this thread the other thread or the other 10 threads. I believe he goes to the raiders.
WR is the most important position on the field other than QB. This is what IMO people are missing, football was a better game in the past and we all remember that. But it's different now. The Bills are very unlikely to win a championship with bith Gabe Davis as #2 WR and Ken Dorsey as OC; just leaves you too short in offense to keep up with the Chiefs and Bengals of the world.
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4 hours ago, White Linen said:
Not that you're saying this but my issue isn't that he runs when he feels the timing is right or to make a play or that he even runs when there's a target he didn't see open.
It's that he does that and then the coaches call additional run plays for him. Ridiculous, IMO. That's where I get frustrated with their comments and some posters here.
I love the designed Allen runs.
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I can see Russia from my house
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4 hours ago, newcam2012 said:
Agree with this. With that said, how much of the issue is coaching, game planning, schemes, play calling, and game time adjustments?
All the more reason you need matchup winners outside, you need to compensate for the lack of creativity and give Josh targets to throw to. Foolproof it, Dorsey-proof it.
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I understood that reference.
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18 minutes ago, In Summary said:
My top observation would be who gets the most MLB work. Maybe there is some indication of who the early front-runner is.
Might be Dodson to start off with
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9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Okay, just took a look at that. But even that post you're once again lamenting on the WR core in a vacuum when Kincaid is way more WR than TE. He's a big slot.
This is like looking at the Chiefs WR core and saying it lacks when they have Kelce on the field. While I'm not anointing him as Kelce either, he's going to be utilized in the same way.
Harty's 2021 campaign was extremely encouraging before he was injured at the start of the 2022 season. Sherfield performed admirably as Miami's 3rd option last season. Fans are underrating them as the 3rd and 4th options because they aren't household names.
On most downs, we're going to have Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Knox, and Cook on the field. That's a VERY solid array of pass catchers that is better than most teams in the league, in my opinion.
36-570-3 is "extremely encouraging" ? Man it doesn't take much for you to blow the ol' load does it
If we signed two different shmos rather than Harty and Sherfield you'd be propping them up instead
Kincaid is the only major move and we're yet to see how he's utilized, they still have Davis rather than a strong #2 WR like Philly or Miami or Cincy or SF have.
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5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Dorsey never gave him the opportunity? Say what?
McKenzie got a ton of action early..........he just made a ton of mistakes with the opportunity. Starting with bobbling a perfectly thrown pass into an interception in the opener. I don't know if people just have poor memories or what but they fed him like there was no tomorrow early in the season and he rewarded them with drops and boneheadery. Dumb fuk ran out the clock in Miami and almost gave poor Dorsey a coronary.
The upside is that maybe all that usage goes straight to Kincaid. I don't have oodles of faith in Dorsey but hey fingers crossed that they feed Kincaid volume early in the season and often.
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2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Meh. It wasn't Isaiah who made himself a starter. Beane was the guy who decided to rely on what they had in the slot last year.
You can't trust him on specials and he can't play outside and he's not a great fill-in in the slot if you have an injury and we had Shakir and there's no gadget role in this offense. The team should have been better-stocked at perimeter wideout and McKenzie shoulda been cutso.
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8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Big addition by subtraction........dumb players kill you.
Beane just really screwed it last offseason in how they addressed their WR situation.
Diggs was the only guy on the field you could count on to catch the football. Davis, McKenzie, Knox surrounding arguably the best QB on the planet. There were series where back to back plays were good balls, dropped, and punt. Monumental failure from the office.
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TSW offseason awards?
in The Stadium Wall
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@HappyDays deserves a shout.
Tremendous work this offseason.