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2 minutes ago, One Buffalo said:
Sounds like they are desperately trying to get more than what is being offered.
It's not necessarily desperate, they're just playing the game. Standard stuff
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5 hours ago, papazoid said:
bills have way more needs than they have Day 1 & 2 picks just for 2023.....if you start worrying about 2024 ...its every position except QB
2023- OG, OT, WR2, RB1, ILB, TE2
2024- DT, FS, SS, OC, EDGE
i'm all about upgrading the OL as top priority....but i would make an exception for Dhop....he is an absolute stud/elite/sure thing
These positions hardly matter. Just give Josh Allen a bunch of stud skill position players to run n gun with and watch the postseason Ws pile up. IMO
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Welcome back
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2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
They WERE in contact. Since then Beane has downplayed their involvement, Tim Graham followed up with a report a few hours after that saying we wouldn't be trading for him "barring significant changes", and a couple days ago Adam Schefter outwardly said on NFL Live "No, the Bills are not trading for Hopkins".
As for dropping his number, it is possible. But it includes adding 3 dummy years to his contract. Meaning we would be taking cap hits for 3 years after his contract ended with us. Which is not Beane's MO.
And yes, we can come up with money. But we've already done a TON of that, freeing up 43.5 million. After starting at -18.5 over, that came to around 25 million dollars - of which we had to use all of it to fill our holes. Right now, we have enough to sign our Draft Picks and that's it.
Coming up with enough to cover a massive Hopkins contract, which goes beyond this season (and we're over the cap next year as well) isn't as simple as you like to think it is.
So add the dummy years, the cap is going to be rising extravagantly.
There are reports they're not trading for him but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be.
At the same time I would not be the least bit surprised to learn that he prefers to play for the defending World Champions and their future HOF offensive coach.
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1 minute ago, Virgil said:
Good thing there’s an ignore feature. Don’t let me get in your wayLikewise. Thanks for playing.
3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:Klein, Phillips, Rapp, Lawson, Dodson, Matakevitch, Jackson, and Lewis costs combined equate to significantly less than just Hopkins' contract. And you can't just have holes all over your Defense to add 1 player.
We had 24 FA's going into this year while being 18.5 over the cap and having 6 Draft Picks. Those holes needed to be filled. You can't get Hopkins and then half a roster and be good. That's not how personnel works.
Hopkins saying he'd like to be here changes nothing when it comes to Beane's stance on being able to fiscally do it.
And again, if we were able to get Hopkins, we wouldn't be drafting any of those top WR's. Likewise, if we drafted one of those guys, we won't be trading for Hopkins.
The situation is not as dire as you're making it out to be. The Bills have been in contact with the Cardinals because they know it's possible to make it work. The cap tends to be flexible. Someone upthread said we can get him for a cap number of 4m this year. I don't know all the details because I find that part boring but there tends to be ways of making it work. For years the Saints were "over the cap" and still would go ahead and make significant additions.
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
What's done is done though. You can argue that they should have spent less on Defense. But you can't undo the situation we're in cap wise. Right now, his contract doesn't work. If it did, it would have been done by now.
It's nice that Hopkins likes us and wants to be here. But it doesn't change the situation we're in and everything over the past few weeks pointing to or outwardly saying we can't do it.
It lacks top 5 Calvin Johnson type prospects and isn't particularly deep. But to say there's no good WR prospects in this Draft is simply wrong.
If the contract is an issue then they shouldn't have signed Poyer, they shouldn't have signed Klein, and if they had to make a cut or two then so be it.
They've put trash talent around Josh Allen. It is more important to surround that young man with talent than it is to have the perfect defense that lets us down against KC/CIN anyway.
The rules are set up for offense to win out and the Bills struggle against it rather than embracing it even while having the best quarterback in the world.
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48 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
That's good to know. But is Nuk willing to take less? Because his current contract is a problem in and of itself.
If the contract is a problem then they shouldn't be adding useless defensive players, they should be gutting the defense. Just score a million points and get turnovers because Von Miller. Way better than what they've been doing using every offseason to try to be perfect on defense.
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2 minutes ago, Paul Costa said:
Meh 🫤 actually hope they take him. Give him a nice contract too. They’re blowing up their trajectory of a up & coming team for this year. They’re depending on a 40 year old Diva to lead them.
This is so typical Two Bills Drive I have to wonder if it's a parody.
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1 hour ago, papazoid said:
maybe dhop and his agent are helping to force his way out by refusing to renegotiate his contract with any team interested in trading for him and spreading these stories ?
if a free agent....that could favor kc a little as they are likely to pay more than bills and he would immediately be their #1 WR......in buff he'd be #2WR
He probably chose KC. They have an offense that's actually well-coached and they win Superbowls.
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The rules of the game have changed. Football as Jim played it is gone to the tide. Now you win by passing the ball and if you're good at it they just can't stop you.
If you want to keep up with the best of the best it is imperative you take full advantage of pass defense and pass rush being made illegal.
The Bills have Josh Allen and Stefon Diggs—they're close! They don't need to reinvent the wheel.
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That Erhardt Perkins connection
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33 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said:
I'm not calling you ignorant, but this post is.
How do you know what's been tried and what hasn't?
Answer: you don't.
What big acquisition have they made that you can say 'Well shucks, they shot their shot but this one just didn't work out. You can't have 'em all.'
Could be a draft pick, a trade, a free agent. There's nothing like that on the ledger. You miss all the shots you don't take, right?
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54 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:
“Trust the process of not trading for Hopkins and continually losing in the 2nd and 3rd rounds” -Brandon Beane
My thing is why haven't they even tried to give Allen a second stud receiver before now? Bills management has been out to lunch for 3 years. One year okay, at some point it becomes an enormous failing and a fire-able offense.
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4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:
He’s not wrong. This is the second most important offseason of Beane’s career and it’s going to define him as a GM. Make the offense around Allen unstoppable or fall further behind in the AFC arms race. They don’t give out prizes for cap management.I don't even care if they have to gut the defense some. Just score a ton of points and you have Von Miller so you'll get some turnovers now and then. Like if money is the issue then they shouldn't have re-signed Poyer. They always overdo it with defense and leave Allen's weapons lacking as if they want to struggle and make sure other teams have a chance.
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Again - he said he expects it but only if Arizona drops their price. That's no guarantee.
Article from Bleacher Report yesterday says they're waiting for leverage, which logic would say waiting until after teams have missed out on WR's in the Draft and are more desperate.
They will not wait until after the draft. They'll want draft capital this year.
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1 minute ago, Goin Breakdown said:
I'm to the point that I wish none of this Hopkins trade talk leaked. There is no such thing as a good leak. My faucet, dogs butts, NFL trade speculation...All
of it sucks. That's my take for the day. Deuces.
Don't let the door hit your dog butt.
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Taiwan Jones. Just not a good football player, not heady and alert, terrible at tracking the football and keeping it out of the endzone. So rarely makes a play out there. And gunner is a fairly important job.
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The Bills are in a position of desperation at WR after neglecting it for 3 years. They have to gamble. They need immediate high-end production alongside Diggs, very unlikely you get that without assuming risk. I do not understand why this hasn't been a priority before now but here we are.
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8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:
That's really all that matters.
This is a SB contending team and they just don't match up with the best at WR2.
As much as we talk about offensive line........there has been a greater correlation in the quality of receiving targets in teams reaching the championship games and SB's in recent years than even the quality of the offensive lines.
The Bills need to address both areas but anyone who thinks that WR2 isn't the most important individual player they can add isn't paying attention.
Think about Josh Allen with Tyreek Hill AND Jaylen Waddle. Devonta Smith AND AJ Brown...Ja'Marr Chase AND Tyler Boyd. The Bills offense would be unstoppable. You can't stop multiple high-level targets with today's rules, both on the perimeter and in the pocket. Why would you not want that kind of devilish situation here on our team? Where has the Bills management been the last several years? It's like they tie one hand behind their back because they want to make sure other teams have a chance.
The fact Bengals fans can say Joe Burrow is better than Josh Allen and there's only so much a Bills fan can say in response and it's "agree to disagree" is a travesty. It's a huge failing on the Bills organization around the QB from the management to the coaches.
Every person on this planet should be slapped on the nose with the knowledge that Josh Allen is the best quarterback alive. And it's not even like management has tried to build around him and missed. They don't even try.
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1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:
I also said multiple times last offseason that receiver was a weakness so on that we are in agreement. But what you are doing is obssessing over 1 pick - Elam in your case because he is literally the only corner Beane has ever taken in the first two days of the draft in 5 years and 15 picks - a bit like the people in Green Bay who obssess over the Jordan Love pick as being the reason Rodgers had no receivers (when in fact Green Bay's issue WAS multiple day 1&2 picks used on defensive backs to no avail).
The Bills overinvestment for limited return has been on the defensive line. Pure and simple.
I agree Elam was not the only misstep. I'm talking about it because the criticism still gets pushback, at this point nobody is deluding themselves into thinking Epenesa and Basham were great picks so there's no discussion. Your attempt to shame me into not disagreeing with you with a word like "obsession" is a real gas.
The Elam pick was poor team-building strategy, and it did represent over-investment for a limited return. A premium asset and we're getting very little out of it, both short- and long-term. The Bills system de-emphasizes cornerbacks.
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28 minutes ago, Beast said:
For a long time?They did use a 1st to get Diggs. That counts in my book and pretty much everyone else’s.
Please, again, the Bills were a legit favorite to win the SB 6 months ago. If you can point me to a post of yours that said WR was a weakness last off-season I’ll be quiet and tip my hat to you.
You know what was a weakness? CB was. Our #1 was recovering from and ACL and our 2 guy was signed by the Steelers in free agency. Taking Elam where they did made perfect sense and the kid, IMO, showed well.
QuoteThe Bills themselves only have one WR anywhere approaching the ballpark of elite, PLUS a lack of depth. Maybe work on that deficiency so you don't become the Packers wasting Aaron Rodgers 'cause you stubbornly left his weapons locker light.
Time to be quiet then, if your word means the bandwidth it's written on. Eat your hat out, Beasty!
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6 minutes ago, Beast said:
For a long time?They did use a 1st to get Diggs. That counts in my book and pretty much everyone else’s.
Please, again, the Bills were a legit favorite to win the SB 6 months ago. If you can point me to a post of yours that said WR was a weakness last off-season I’ll be quiet and tip my hat to you.
You know what was a weakness? CB was. Our #1 was recovering from and ACL and our 2 guy was signed by the Steelers in free agency. Taking Elam where they did made perfect sense and the kid, IMO, showed well.
Diggs is one guy. You start 3 WRs. Yes, I've wanted a 1st round WR every year for a long time. Do whatever the h*** you want with your hat.
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Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?
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You were doing so well, and then you mentioned a defensive player!