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    Justin Houston receiving significant interest - The Bills a potential fit

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    9 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    Okay, just took a look at that. But even that post you're once again lamenting on the WR core in a vacuum when Kincaid is way more WR than TE. He's a big slot. 

     

    This is like looking at the Chiefs WR core and saying it lacks when they have Kelce on the field. While I'm not anointing him as Kelce either, he's going to be utilized in the same way. 

     

    Harty's 2021 campaign was extremely encouraging before he was injured at the start of the 2022 season. Sherfield performed admirably as Miami's 3rd option last season. Fans are underrating them as the 3rd and 4th options because they aren't household names.

     

    On most downs, we're going to have Diggs, Davis, Kincaid, Knox, and Cook on the field. That's a VERY solid array of pass catchers that is better than most teams in the league, in my opinion.

    36-570-3 is "extremely encouraging" ? Man it doesn't take much for you to blow the ol' load does it

     

    If we signed two different shmos rather than Harty and Sherfield you'd be propping them up instead

     

    Kincaid is the only major move and we're yet to see how he's utilized, they still have Davis rather than a strong #2 WR like Philly or Miami or Cincy or SF have. 

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    L’il Dirty Dishes

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    5 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

    Dorsey never gave him the opportunity?   Say what? :lol: McKenzie got a ton of action early..........he just made a ton of mistakes with the opportunity.    Starting with bobbling a perfectly thrown pass into an interception in the opener.    I don't know if people just have poor memories or what but they fed him like there was no tomorrow early in the season and he rewarded them with drops and boneheadery.    Dumb fuk ran out the clock in Miami and almost gave poor Dorsey a coronary.:lol:

    The upside is that maybe all that usage goes straight to Kincaid. I don't have oodles of faith in Dorsey but hey fingers crossed that they feed Kincaid volume early in the season and often.

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    L’il Dirty Dishes

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    2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Meh. It wasn't Isaiah who made himself a starter. Beane was the guy who decided to rely on what they had in the slot last year. 

    You can't trust him on specials and he can't play outside and he's not a great fill-in in the slot if you have an injury and we had Shakir and there's no gadget role in this offense. The team should have been better-stocked at perimeter wideout and McKenzie shoulda been cutso.

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    8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

     

    Big addition by subtraction........dumb players kill you.   

     

    Beane just really screwed it last offseason in how they addressed their WR situation.

     

     

    Diggs was the only guy on the field you could count on to catch the football. Davis, McKenzie, Knox surrounding arguably the best QB on the planet. There were series where back to back plays were good balls, dropped, and punt. Monumental failure from the office.

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    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    9 hours ago, BananaB said:

    I’m not buying that Dhop is fully off the table. A lot of guys added but no one has really proven anything on Sundays. Big mistake to go into another season like we did last year

    Yeah really dumb to again have no competition for Davis and no depth behind Davis and Diggs. Yet another offseason without significant investment at boundary WR.

    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    2 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    I mean, more power to him for still having faith. But Arizona's GM said yesterday that he "doesn't foresee" moving Hopkins and flat out said today "DeAndre's a Cardinal and we're moving forward".

     

    I don't think they have any intention on moving him. Based on their reported asking price before the past couple days, which was completely unrealistic, I don't think they ever did.

    I remember when the Bills had "no intention of trading Stevie Johnson."

    RD 1, Pick 25: TE Dalton Kincaid, Utah

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    10 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

    It’s possible. I don’t necessarily hate the Kincaid pick and want to put that out there. I just don’t see it helping much unless we have a plan at WR2. If we can’t land Hopkins, then the Kincaid pick seems a little strange. 
    We already have Shakir primed for the slot. 
     

    I would have been happier with a trade down into the 2nd round. Grabbing Avila and then grabbing Hyatt with a packaged up move. 
    Avila/Hyatt  >  Kincaid/ Dawand Jones 

    I too would like to add Hopkins, I'm all about those boundary wideout in the modern NFL. But I must admit that the Bills did have a lot of success with Diggs and Beasley as their top two targets. And Shakir is not Beasley.

    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    5 hours ago, papazoid said:

    bills have way more needs than they have Day 1 & 2 picks just for 2023.....if you start worrying about 2024 ...its every position except QB

     

    2023- OG, OT, WR2, RB1, ILB, TE2

    2024- DT, FS, SS, OC, EDGE

     

    i'm all about upgrading the OL as top priority....but i would make an exception for Dhop....he is an absolute stud/elite/sure thing

     

     

    These positions hardly matter. Just give Josh Allen a bunch of stud skill position players to run n gun with and watch the postseason Ws pile up. IMO

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    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    They WERE in contact. Since then Beane has downplayed their involvement, Tim Graham followed up with a report a few hours after that saying we wouldn't be trading for him "barring significant changes", and a couple days ago Adam Schefter outwardly said on NFL Live "No, the Bills are not trading for Hopkins".

     

    As for dropping his number, it is possible. But it includes adding 3 dummy years to his contract. Meaning we would be taking cap hits for 3 years after his contract ended with us. Which is not Beane's MO.

     

    And yes, we can come up with money. But we've already done a TON of that, freeing up 43.5 million. After starting at -18.5 over, that came to around 25 million dollars - of which we had to use all of it to fill our holes. Right now, we have enough to sign our Draft Picks and that's it. 

     

    Coming up with enough to cover a massive Hopkins contract, which goes beyond this season (and we're over the cap next year as well) isn't as simple as you like to think it is.

    So add the dummy years, the cap is going to be rising extravagantly. 

     

    There are reports they're not trading for him but that doesn't mean they shouldn't be.

     

    At the same time I would not be the least bit surprised to learn that he prefers to play for the defending World Champions and their future HOF offensive coach.

    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    1 minute ago, Virgil said:


    Good thing there’s an ignore feature.  Don’t let me get in your way 

    Likewise. Thanks for playing.

    3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    Klein, Phillips, Rapp, Lawson, Dodson, Matakevitch, Jackson, and Lewis costs combined equate to significantly less than just Hopkins' contract. And you can't just have holes all over your Defense to add 1 player. 

     

    We had 24 FA's going into this year while being 18.5 over the cap and having 6 Draft Picks. Those holes needed to be filled. You can't get Hopkins and then half a roster and be good. That's not how personnel works.

     

    Hopkins saying he'd like to be here changes nothing when it comes to Beane's stance on being able to fiscally do it.

     

    And again, if we were able to get Hopkins, we wouldn't be drafting any of those top WR's. Likewise, if we drafted one of those guys, we won't be trading for Hopkins. 

    The situation is not as dire as you're making it out to be. The Bills have been in contact with the Cardinals because they know it's possible to make it work. The cap tends to be flexible. Someone upthread said we can get him for a cap number of 4m this year. I don't know all the details because I find that part boring but there tends to be ways of making it work. For years the Saints were "over the cap" and still would go ahead and make significant additions.

    Will DeAndre Hopkins be available this offseason?

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    1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    What's done is done though. You can argue that they should have spent less on Defense. But you can't undo the situation we're in cap wise. Right now, his contract doesn't work. If it did, it would have been done by now.

     

    It's nice that Hopkins likes us and wants to be here. But it doesn't change the situation we're in and everything over the past few weeks pointing to or outwardly saying we can't do it.

     

     

    It lacks top 5 Calvin Johnson type prospects and isn't particularly deep. But to say there's no good WR prospects in this Draft is simply wrong.

    If the contract is an issue then they shouldn't have signed Poyer, they shouldn't have signed Klein, and if they had to make a cut or two then so be it.

     

    They've put trash talent around Josh Allen. It is more important to surround that young man with talent than it is to have the perfect defense that lets us down against KC/CIN anyway. 

     

    The rules are set up for offense to win out and the Bills struggle against it rather than embracing it even while having the best quarterback in the world.

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