2020 Our Year For Sure

Not once have I said Vince Young is a good football player. You insulted his intelligence as a human being. Its a completely different argument.

Just at first glance, maybe the fact that 4 of your 5 examples are 20 lbs. heavier than he is? Edit, Kelly beat me to it.

Thanks, I hadn't heard that was a possibility.

I don't really know anything about the Wonderlic, so I won't comment other than this: I'd much rather judge someone by how they function in reality than how they perform on a test. I thought the SAT was a pretty easy test, but I know smart people who didn't do well on it. My prior experience tells me I shouldn't judge intelligence based on a test instead of how they function in reality. There are alot of football players that never say anything of substance. About 90% of the league, actually. What Bills player ever says anything of substance? Does that mean every player on this team is stupid? No, it just means they're athletes, and the answers to the questions they're normally asked simply don't involve any philosophical revelations. You can dislike him without insulting his intelligence. You can have whatever opinion you like. What bothered me was when you said he's "obviously not too bright." If its so obvious, why don't I see it? If you had said "I don't believe he's too bright," I probably wouldn't have even posted...but when you said it was an obvious certainty, you suggested that any intelligent person would realize Vince Young is stupid. If its so obvious, you should be able to back it up without saying, "Its just my opinion."

Okay. And why is he dumb? What player is a role model? Peyton Manning? Do you think Peyton Manning has never been drunk before? What about his comments concerning retirement were "stupid?" He can't be overwhelmed by the pressures of being an NFL quarterback to the point that it isn't fun anymore without being stupid? Every time I've heard him speak he's struck me as an intelligent person. Just not understanding where you're coming from at all with this.

Sure was. You're open to criticism when you suggest Craig Nall is better than Vince Young. And why is he "obviously not too bright"? That doesn't seem so obvious to me...he's seemed pretty well-spoken whenever I've heard him speak. I'd swap McKelvin's vocabulary for VY's any day. And please don't give me Wonderlic scores...

Who exactly are you addressing? All of one person criticized Edwards in this thread. Thats far from being tar-and-feathered. Heaven forbid even one disciple speak ill of thy holy Trent, huh?

Gotta love the internet sometimes.

Again: how much better was Lawyer Milloy than Matt Bowen at this point? Should either have been a starting safety in this system? How much bigger of a hole at SS was there without Milloy than there was with him?

By 2005, Milloy wasn't that much better than Matt Bowen. Buffalo without Milloy didn't have much more of a need at strong safety than Buffalo with Milloy.

Sorry to interrupt...but if true, exactly what is wrong with that? Whats wrong with the Bills feeling that filling the safety position is worthy of the 8th pick, even if they aren't getting the NFL's best safety?

Seriously, I got chills the first time I saw that ending..."tell Merrill to swing away." Fantastic stuff. And I've never understood all the hate for The Village. That twist had me hook, line and sinker. Lady In The Water was indeed an atrocity though, no argument here.

I can see how you'd get that confused.

I'm sure he has... The likelihood of McKelvin also having one of the best yards per kick averages EVER is slim to none. McGee is simply brilliant returning kickoffs, and the value of what he does can not be overstated. You've heard with 'don't mess with a good thing'...well don't mess with a spectacular thing. There's just no legitimate reason for benching one of the league's finest return men.

As long as he doesn't get injured, he'll be "fresh." Its not like sprinting 30 yards a couple times a game is going to make him unable to cover recievers. He's only been doing it his whole career, after all.

God I hope Schonert is a good one.

Absolutely.

No. To build up a Canadian season ticket base for the team staying.

Or be happy with good-but-not-great corners in Greer and McGee.

I still think if you can show a team is running with far more frequency in the 2nd half than they are in the 1st over the course of a full season, there's a damn good chance they subscribe to the author's philosophy: pass early to build a lead, run late to keep it. Whether or not he showed enough teams have a habit of doing that to actually make a point, is up for scrutiny, as Dibs points out.

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Right. Thats the problem with basing salaries mostly on incentives. You want players who are motivated to win games, not players who are motivated to accumulate stats to fatten their paychecks.

Then you get players who want to accumulate stats, as opposed to players who want to win games.