Lothar
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I'm pleasantly surprised the league is starting on time. I also wonder what might happen if players on a 2-6 or 0-5 team decide it's not worth the quarantine to slog through the full season. I assume their pay would be guaranteed once the season starts?
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2 hours ago, Nextmanup said:
It's just another example, out of thousands, how the "pros" have no idea what they are doing at the draft table.
As I constantly point out, this is why you never trade up, and should almost always trade down.
More picks = more chances to get lucky, which is mostly what it comes down to.
Patrick Mahomes says hi.
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Moss' college stats show he is as elusive a back as DS, but with more of a thumper mentality. This combo will be just fine.
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2 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
Ed Oliver fat and useless ? ?Priceless post
I think he's talking about the Jets' tackle.
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1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:
Hyde is the brains
Lorax the heart
Edmunds the fist
Reminds me of the old joke about the Beatles ... McCartney was the brains, Lennon the soul, Harrison the heart of the band ... and Ringo? He was the drummer.
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2 minutes ago, MDH said:
Teat one: passed
Teat one, indeed.?
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Does that put Teller on the wrong side of the bubble again?
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19 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
Don Beebe helmet?
I'm thinking he meant the special Kelso helmet.
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Sal Maiorana and the D&C cats have been quite negative about Allen since the middle of last week. Leo Roth and Fairburn and Sal think the offense has been pretty poor since the OL started going down and need to start showing a bit more.
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I think the OP is a Russian troll bot trying to see what issues matter to upstate New Yorkers and weave that into their next electoral attack. Just sayin' ....
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10 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said:
...slow down there Big Dawg.....the Hughes trade was HARDLY met with enthusiasm...do NOT try and tell me there were NOT multiple trepidations here and on the former BBMB site about trading for the "1st round bust Hughes".....let's just be honest....secondly, who the hell compared AD to Yeldon?...sure as hell was NOT me.....point was Deadskins gambled and won.....as far as Yeldon and what the Bills' EXPECTATIONS are, we have no idea yet, but I would GUESS a part is his pass catching prowess to supplement Allen's arsenal........
If you remember, Old Timer, we were trading our bust for theirs - but most everyone on this board was pretty upbeat about Hughes' potential at the time. Especially because he was backing up a couple stars on the Colts D-line.
I'm not fully sold on Yeldon but his prowess is supposed to be catching and protecting on 3rd down so he still has a shot.
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Qwitters on Twitters
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That may be the plan for Josh but I'm not sure if Peyton followed that process in his rookie year from the games I saw. In early games against Buffalo, he threw it a lot but I remember Bruce being frustrated because Manning would get rid of the ball a lot quicker than other quarterbacks. I'm not sure he was a long ball thrower at the time, especially against the Bills.
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Very cool story from a bit player during the Super Bowl years.
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I, too, go there first to do a quick scan of Twitter comments before linking to TBD. Plus, Steve let me pen a couple articles for that site a dozen years ago so I'll always have a soft spot for Bills Daily.
I will miss Steve's draft review and game analysis. I hope he stays connected somehow.
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13 minutes ago, Dkollidas said:
Could be. But then again, a few weeks ago no one thought we’d get anything for Tyrod. No one thought we’d get anything for Cordy either. Regardless, we have the capital, change Shaq to a 2nd Round Pick if need be.
This team wont be afraid to add for a guy they want in my opinion.
But the difference in including him in a trade versus just keeping him is we lose 6-7 million of the cap. It's not happening. These players are not tinker toys.
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3 minutes ago, Doc said:
Definitely. It's less of an issue in some positions, but at QB, you don't want a guy with a low Wonderlic.
I would have thought so too, Doc, except that the one study cited in the 538 article above showed no correlation between those test results and NFL performance, except for tight end and cornerback - where the correlation was negative.
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1 minute ago, PIZ said:
I'm not defending the 13 score, BUT, there are several versions of the Wonderlic. The one BigDingus references is obviously an easy version. It is nothing like the version I use. If Lamar Jackson got a 13 on the easy version, he would get a 0 on the one I use. Couple questions I don't know the answers to:
1. Do all draftees receive the same Wonderlic version?
2. Do teams like the Bills test these guys themselves when they come in for a visit?
3. If he had an agent, would the agent make sure he didn't get the most difficult version, and/or would the agent prep him for the test?
4. Could someone be bribed into manipulating his score, so he drops in the draft? How secure is the grading?
According to the article I referenced from 538 earlier, at least half of the leaked scores are fake. I'm not sure whether teams do so in an effort to get players to drop or agents do so to get players to rise but the bottom line is don't trust those numbers. And also because there is no correlation to success on the football field except for a negative one with tight ends and defensive backs.
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The Wonderlic remains a tool that garners more notoriety than it deserves since it doesn't really show a correlation between score and success.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-a-multiple-choice-test-became-a-fixture-of-the-nfl-draft/
When it comes to football, is the test a demonstrably reasonable measure of job performance? Because official NFL Wonderlic scores aren’t publicly available, it’s difficult to know for sure, but that hasn’t stopped researchers from attempting to find out. Brian D. Lyons, Brian J. Hoffman, and John W. Michel 8 co-authored a 2009 study examining the reported 9 Wonderlic scores of 762 NFL players from three draft classes. They found that there was little correlation between Wonderlic scores and on-field performance, except for two positions: Tight ends and defensive backs with low scores actually played better than those with high scores. The researchers surmised that this “could be explained by the notion that performance for these positions entails more of an emphasis on physical ability and instinct” than general mental ability.
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Great job, Gunner! You and Blokes and Bandit are the three amigos of prospect analysis on TBD. Given that you think Rosen seems the only sure fire franchise guy, what's your opinion on the other 6 or 7 when it comes to potential fits with the Bills' projected style of offense. Or is that too nebulous at the moment?
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8 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:
Agreed. I'd really like to see some of the detractors put up a compelling analysis; I'm hardly closed-minded on the subject
Bandit, you're one of the handful of posters whose opinion on college players I listen to. However, whether it's the contextualized qb data or any other data set with analysis of accuracy and ability to progress through reads, Allen shows poorly. Maybe his tools translate well to the pro game. But the one actual complete game I saw of him this year where he played against a poor Oregon defense, he was pretty bad. Maybe when surrounded by other nfl players, he'll find his way, but damn, that seems a long way off for someone with his faults. Sitting behind someone like Eli or Ben for a couple years is his best bet. I don't want him to have to learn behind our kiddie corps of QBs.
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1 hour ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said:
I have watched so many games of all these QB's my head hurts. I don't see Beanie or McD picking Jackson so I'm not really worried. He is going to be the player that drops in this draft and will be the guy Kiper talks about after every pick. I would draft Falk, White, Litton, Lauretta and Rudolph over Jackson easily.
That article was before last season. I'd have no problem taking him at 12. He won't last till 22. He may need a year of grooming but his upside may be higher than anyone else's in this draft.
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Whoa! Love it.
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The correlation to winning and turnovers is actually around 78%.
http://www.footballperspective.com/winning-the-turnover-battle/
16 minutes ago, Luxy312 said:Net turnovers is the single largest Corollary to winning and losing games in the NFL. There's are of course always exceptions. Based on every NFL game played in the last 40 years, if a team is +1, they win the game 90% of the time. If they're +2, that climbs to about 95%. +3 gets you to almost 99%.
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As great as he was, I'm not sure there was ever a year when Andre was considered 2nd best in the NFL. He was usually in the top 5 or 6. Even the two years he made All-Pro, I believe Rice and Sterling Shape were considered the starters. I truly believe that Moulds was the best receiver the bills had. If he had a good qb, his ceiling was definitely Hall of Fame caliber. Diggs is in the conversation for #3 already and given his qb, maybe more.