H2o
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I sure as hell wouldn't trade a lot of Day 1 draft picks for him.
Say Peterson is off the board along with Willis when our #12 pick rolls around. Would you be willing to trade our #12 for Larry Johnson?
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*standing atop the highest mountain*
Regarding LJ......
*clearing throat*......ahem......."MARV.......GIT R DONE"!!!!!!!!!!!
MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY!!!!!
IF EVERYONE ELSE WOULD LOVE TO SEE LJ IN A BILLS UNI GIVE ME A HELL YEAH!!!
And a resounding, "HELL YEAH!!!" , rings forth.
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Something is very strange here. I am trying to type the words Buffalo Bills Insider and these symbols keep popping up. Never had anything like this happen before in my life. That is why the link is wrong. It substitutes these symbols for the words. I hear the "Twilight Zone" music playing in the background right now.
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Sorry, I don't know what's wrong with the link and can't seem to fix it. You can read the article @ !@#$ website . Sorry guys.
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http://buffalo!@#$.com/index.php?n...e&sid=11748
Decent article about the Bills, their options, and possible routes they could take in the draft.
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Look at all of the "U"'s products. Michael Irvin, Ray Lewis, Warren Sapp, Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, Edgerin James, Jeremy Shockey, Kellen Winslow Jr., Ed Reed, and so on and so on and so on. They all seem like guys who would've done something exactly like this. We could roll out the police reports and known "black book" names on all of these guys. Most of them are known for their partying lifestyles and the numerous women that they've dated. It's all part of "The U" 's mystique. They're just following the tradition. Must be something in the air or the water down in South Beach. I ain't mad at them one bit. It's nothing worse than anything else you hear now days..
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Wasn't the guy spotted in a casino out in Vegas 3 or 4 days after his meeting with Goodell? I'm not saying the NFL conglomerate should be able to regulate these people's lives or anything, but it doesn't seem like a place that a guy with his history with money should be. Gambling is NOT illegal, but this guy's money and attitude towards having it is what has caused 90% of his problems in life.
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Good read 111. It's good to be able to scan through all of the #'s on these guys. The only other thing I would have liked to have seen about these LB's would be the bench press reps they did in the allotted time. Still a good job though man.
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Now that I think about it, the Texans would be another team that we may have to worry about. This is especially so after they passed on Young last year. As I recall, AP is from Texas. Yet, didn't the Texans pick up Ahman Green this off season?
Yes, the Texans did pick up Ahman Green this offseason. But they passed on Reggie Bush, 1st and foremost last year, along with Vince Young. If Peterson falls into their lap I don't expect them to make the same mistake twice, by that I mean passing on a "franchise" RB. Plus Green is 30 now, has battled injuries the past few seasons, and isn't the Green of old anymore. His speed, quickness, and agility have all fallen off to a certain extent. They would take Peterson within 30 seconds of being on the clock.
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I think that you are mostly correct. If Cleveland does not take AP, the question becomes whether Russell is still on the board for the Vikings. If JR is not available, the Vikings may take AP. Otherwise, AP could slip down to 12 -- unless, of course, another team behind us trades up to get AP.
Don't forget about the Texans. They would probably jump on Peterson as well.
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I don't know if anybody has mentioned this already amidst the euphoria, but Langston Walker, our new answer at RT was on an offensive line that was 29th in the league in rushing offense and their offensive line gave up 72 sacks! The worst offensive line in recent NFL history. I watched every Raiders game last year. It was UGLY, especially the offense.
I'm sure that Gallery was responsible for more than half of that total, probably 40+ sacks alone. He gave up 4 or 5 just to San Diego. There were still 15 other games besides that one.
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Who will play QB for Cleveland this year? They need a QB much more desperately than a RB. They will not win with Charlie Frye at QB. I say they take whoever is left between Russell and Quinn.
There is more than 2 QB's in this draft. I think that they would address that in the second or third round of the draft. You have Kevin Kolb from Houston, MAYBE Trent Edwards from Stanford, John Beck from BYU, and don't forget about Troy Smith from Ohio St. I kind of gotta feeling that Smith is going to end up in Cleveland in the later rounds. The people of Cleveland would rally around the guy like no other. There are definitely plenty of options for Cleveland to think about.
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Overall its not far fetched.. i can see that happening just because of how crazy drafts always seem to end up but i got one beef....
Alan Branch?? where is the big daddy at?? there isn't a position in the league with as much need as DT and he is that NT run stopper everyone looks for.. he is a top 12 pick for sure!
Branch is a "play when I want to" kind of guy. I think that makes him drop out of the 1st.
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#1 Oakland Raiders select to trade the pick to the San Francisco 49ers for this year's 1st and 2nd round picks and 2008's 1st and 3rd round picks.
At #1 San Francisco 49ers (via Oakland)select Calvin Johnson / WR / Georgia Tech - Alex Smitth has NO ONE to throw the ball to except Vernon Davis and Gore out of the backfield. This would immediately give them one of the premier core groups in the NFL with Gore, Johnson, and Davis. Alex Smith improved alot last year and this would only help in his development. They would then have Lelie starting on the other side (nothing special, but enough to require some safety help because of his speed) to help open up their whole offense.
#2 Detroit Lions select Jamarcus Russell / QB / LSU - Millen finally siezes the opportunity to do something right by taking the Lions "Franchise QB".
#3 Cleveland Browns select Adrian Peterson / RB / Oklahoma - He will split with "J-Lew" for a year to learn the offense and be cut loose as the Browns featured back in 08'.
#4 Tampa Bay selects Brady Quinn / QB / Notre Dame - John Gruden will still be sniffling over Calvin Johnson, but will get the QB that he wanted atleast. Quinn will learn the system with all of it's ins and outs from a seasoned vet in Garcia and be named the starter in 08'.
#5 Arizona Cardinals select Joe Thomas / OT / Wisconson - The loss of Leonard Davis is now an upgrade to a younger, more athletic tackle who will lock down the LT position for years to come.
#6 Washington Redskins select Gaines Adams / DE / Clemson - Snyder will try to trade out of #6 until the end, but will have to take the picke because Peterson went off the board at #3 to Cleveland. Adams will be an opening day starter in 07'.
#7 Minnesota Vikings select Laron Landry / S / LSU - This is a guy who can provide run support and cover a slot receiver 1-on-1. A definite upgrade for the Vikings at the S spot.
#8 Atlanta Falcons (via Houston)select Jamal Anderson / DE / Arkansas - Kerney is gone and Anderson could fill the void. He's big, strong, and surprisingly athletic for his size.
#9 Miami Dolphins select Levi Brown / OT / Penn St. - They need an OL and a quality LT is a good start.
#10 Houston Texans (via Atlanta)select Leon Hall / CB / Michigan - This is a position that they don't have any real talent. None like the package you get with Hall anyway. He's Big Ten tested and an All American. One of 07's opening day starters for Houston.
#11 Oakland Raiders select Amobi Okoye / DT / Louisville - Al Davis has got a plan with his extra picks and Okoye falls into his lap at #11. Sapp is almost 34 and on the downswing in his career. Okoye will fit perfect. The first pick in the 2nd will be Trent Edwards. The QB that Davis has been eying other than Russell.
#12 Buffalo Bills select to trade the pick to the Tennessee Titans for their 1st and 2nd in this year's draft. I know you guys are going to scream over this one
At #12 Tennessee Titans select Marshawn Lynch / RB / Cal - Lindale White is eating himself out of a job and Tennessee is in need of a RB. If they hold off until the 2nd or 3rd round the other couple of guys they would want will probably be gone. Lynch is a pretty physical specimen at 5'11" 215lbs. "VY" and Lynch will be Tennesee's version of Batman and Robin.
#13 St. Louis Rams select to trade the pick to the Pittsburgh Steelers for their 1st and 2nd round picks.
At #13 Pittsburgh Steelers (via St. Louis)select Patrick Willis / LB / Ole Miss - The Steelers released Joey Porter and when Buffalo trades out of the #12 spot, they POUNCE on Willis as quick as possible. Willis will play Porter's vacated LB spot for the Steelers and quickly become a fan favorite.
#14 Carolina Panthers select Greg Olsen / TE / Miami - This guy will make the all rookie team and if Steve Smith stays healthy, maybe the Pro Bowl. He has great speed, great hands, and is a decent blocker. He makes an immediate impact for a Carolina offense if their "all world" WR can stay healthy because Smith will open up holes for Olsen.
#15 St. Louis Rams (via Pittsburgh)select Darrelle Revis / CB / Pitt - The Rams pick up an extra pick and still get the guy they had #1 for their slot on the board.
#16 Green Bay Packers select Ted Ginn Jr. / WR / Ohio St. - The Packers are a little upset that they didn't have Lynch fall into their lap, but they'll get over it by drafting a WR who will be another speedy target for Favre and a KR as well.
#17 Jacksonville Jaguars select Adam Carriker / DE / Nebraska - Del Rio will be extatic that Carriker falls into his hands. He's just a Del Rio kind of guy. Big, strong, and versatile for the Jags DL. He will line up as a starting DE in 07' until one of their tackles go down to injury and then he will slide to a DT spot. They improve their defense once again.
#18 Cincinnati Bengals select Reggie Nelson / S / Florida - They could go Alan Branch here, but I don't think Marvin Lewis would put up with his laziness. Nelson would help to improve a shakey pass defense and be an immediate starter for the Bengals.
#19 Buffalo Bills (via Tennessee)select Paul Posluzny / LB / Penn St. - We increased our # of picks which gives us the option of trading up again if someone else we covet is still on the board late in the 1st and still get a LB who will undoubtedly start from opening day in 07'. He is a "Marv" kind of guy. Crowell will play the MLB spot, Poz will take over back at his natural OLB spot, and we will be drafting another LB later on to rotate with him and Ellison.
#20 New York Giants select Jon Beason / LB / Miami - They need help at LB and Beason is their answer with the 20th pick.
#21 Denver Broncos select Dwayne Bowe / WR / LSU - They got Javon Walker last year via Green Bay and Rod Smith won't play forever. Shannahan is setting Cutler up for success in Denver.
#22 Dallas Cowboys select Aaron Ross / CB / Texas - Jerry Jones gets a hometown player with alot of upside. Ross is the best corner available and this would allow them to move Anthony Henry to S if they would like. They're pissed that Nelson and Bowe are off the board, but they still get a guy who can help them in 07'.
#23 Kansas City selects Robert Meacham / WR / Tennessee - They need a WR and Meacham is the best guy available. He put up huge #'s at Tennessee this past season with 1,298 yards and 11 TD's in the nations best conference, the SEC. He will start opening day opposite of Eddie Kennison.
#24 New England Patriots (via Seattle)select Chris Houston / CB / Arkansas - Asante Samuel is trying to push his way out of New England and Houston would slide right into his vacated slot. He's a fast, physical CB who would turn out just fine under Bellicheck's tutelidge.
#25 New York Jets select Jarvis Moss / DE / Florida - They're disappointed to not get one of the 2 CB's they were hoping to land in Ross and Houston, but may have found their next "John Abraham" in the process. Younger and at a cheaper price of course.
#26 Philidelphia Eagles select Michael Griffin / S / Texas - He could be a force in their secondary. They already solidified their LB core by adding Spikes. Griffin would be able to learn from one of the best in Brian Dawkins while bringing the same physical nature to the other S spot. Could turn out to be a great pick for them a couple of years down the line.
#27 New Orleans Saints select Dwayne Jarrett / WR / USC - The loss of Joe Horn was a blow to the team regardless of what they believe. But put the talented Jarrett with Colston and Henderson? Uh-huh. The Saints fans will be saying "Joe who?"
#28 New England Patriots select Anthony Gonzales / WR / Ohio St. - And the Patriots just keep going and going and going.
#29 Baltimore Ravens select Joe Staley / OT / Central Michigan - Has all the tools to be a good NFL OT for a long time. Ogden is getting old and the Ravens need to start looking towards the future. They will continue by going with a LB in the 2nd round.
#30 San Diego Chargers select Brandon Siler / LB / Florida - Donnie Edwards is gone and Siler has the potential to be just as good. They really wanted another WR, but none are worthy of this pick. Siler may not be either, but they will get a player with tons of NFL potential.
#31 Chicago Bears select Lawrence Timmons / LB / FSU - Lance Briggs wants out and may hold out. Timmons could step into his slot. Has alot of upside because of his closing speed and agility. He would fit well into the Bears "Cover 2" scheme.
#32 Indianapolis Colts select Marcus McCaully / CB / Fresno St. - Another "Cover 2" guy that Dungy will be glad to have in the mix. Look for them to get a LB with their second choice in the draft.
It's possible that none of this could happen at all of course, but it was pretty interesting to speculate. I bet you that I get more right than "Draft Guru" Mel Kiper.
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go LB. This class does not run deep in RB at all. after AP there is a drop off in RB. i know some people think Lynch is some amazing player, but im not convinced. And also, due to character issues and from what i can tell an apperant lack of intelligence, i have no doubt Marv and Dick have already passed on this guy. So what do you do now... well you draft the next best player at a need position, and that is a LB. the LB class is by no means great, but there isnt a large drop off in talent between Willis and Poz or Harris... and i know they play different positions, but LBs a able to be moved so i count them as all the same.
So if AP is there at 12, we take him, no question. however, Lynch is not worth the 12th pick nor is any other RB, therefore, we would definetly need to take Willis if he is there, or Poz. simple as that
Have you guys ever listened to Peterson have a convo in an interview? That kid is not the sharpest tool in the shed either. Fact is, these guys are running backs. You don't have to be incredibly smart to follow a lead blocker and accelerate through a hole. Durability and overall talent are what we're looking for. Peterson and Lynch have both been hurt a couple of times. Peterson's last 2 seasons have basically been crap because he was hurt. There's not even a garauntee he can make it through all 16 games. Especially since he couldn't even make it through 12 the past couple of years at Oklahoma. Lynch has had questions asked about his back. I wouldn't say that either of them are sure fire "Pro-Bowl" caliber backs. I would say that their potential looks promising for the both of them. I would like to have either of them, but would rather us select Patrick Willis more. We are talking about a 6-2 230-240 lb. guy who ran a 40yd under 4.4 seconds. A guy that was a tackling machine this past season and in the Senior Bowl against the top NCAA prospects. Not to mention that alot of Willis' tackles are for minimal gains or loss because of his pursuit skills. All of his workouts have been solid and he seems to be a good character guy. Our run defense needs this pick.
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Rising Stock:
Ted Ginn Jr. / WR / Ohio St. - Why? I haven't got a clue, but it is. Could be a Dolphin at #9.
Adam Carriker / DE / Nebraska - Has the ability to play DE and DT. Could be drafted as early as #6 to the Skins. Won't last
past #15 to the Steelers.
Jon Beason / ILB / Miami - Some people have him rated higher than Willis on their draft board. Could be on Marv's board at
#12. Won't last past the Giants at #20.
Trent Edwards / QB / Stanford - Will definitely be the 3rd QB taken. Has had impressive workouts and interviews that vaulted
his stock. If the Raiders don't take a QB in the first, look for Edwards to be the 1st pick of
the 2nd round.
Dropping Like a Rock:
Dwayne Jarrett / WR / USC - A 4.6 40YD time has sent his stock in a tail-spin. Has good hands, but doesn't seem to be very
physical at all. Could be a blessing in disguise for the team drafting him, but dropping to the 2nd
round is his fate.
Quinten Moses / DE / Georgia - Was once viewed as the second best DE behind Gaines Adams. But now a late second round,
if that lucky kind of guy.
Troy Smith / QB / Ohio St. - Height, erratic arm, and character issues push the Heisman winner to the mid to late 3rd round.
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Out of curiosity, has anyone compared Mel Kiper's mock drafts to how the subsequent drafts actually unfold? We know that ESPN would rather shove the same "crappy" talent down our throats then give airtime to more deserving experts, and Kiper is a huge douche.
He is the same guy that predicited that the Pats could be the first 0-16 team in NFL history, the same year they won their first SB.
Kiper is definitely a COMPLETE douche
William Henderson called him out on it at last year's draft. It was hillarious. He's almost like the "Rosenhaus" of ESPN analysts. I wonder if some of these guys slide him a little under the table to get him to talk them up a bit the way he slobs all over some guys. I think we should put an actual draft beside Kiper's mock on the following Monday so we can all laugh and call him a jackass. -
It wouldn't surprise me at all either if they traded up for Brady Quinn or Jamarcus Russell. I think the Raiders and Lions would both move out of their slots and Miami's QB situation is definitely up in the air with Culpepper and Lemon. I think they're definitely taking a QB whether it be one of the forementioned, or they might make a play for Trent Edwards from Stanford, or possibly John Beck from BYU in the 2nd round, or maybe even Drew Stanton from Michigan St. We'll see.
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Two thirds or a third and swap of 2nds is more than fair compensation IMO
I'd agree with that.
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lol, very nice.
I believe you meant that the bills always get shat on.
I guess I need to brush up on my grammer a little bit
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I guess I didn't send it directly to the NFL Network themselves, but as an email through NFL.com. Either way, they own and run the TV aspect as well. Here it is:
And scroll to the bottom of the page. Can't miss it.
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He'll play whatever position the team that drafts him asks him to play.
Perhaps that would give us the option or running the option but then wed need an option qb, which screws us if we have to option to an audible.
Maybe we should bring in Marcus Vick.
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they make me mad enough to BURN THAT MOTHERFer DOWN!
I have dish network so i am still subjected to anti bills BS on there, although honestly i dont think its as bad as espn.
My email to NFL Network:
Why did you guys skip over the Bills "State of the Franchise" segment on your network? To show a 2-part interview with some jackass who can't keep his money in a trash bag and his ass out of trouble? You went from St. Louis to San Fran. It's ridiculous. You guys and ESPN must work arm and arm. It seems to be just another case of the Bills being sh****d on by all forms of media outside of Buffalo. Thanks again.
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Heck, I wouldn't spend anything higher than a 6th on a FB either. Just scoping out the landscape of who our options are and who everyone would like to see.
Looks like their might be another Team interested in a RB
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Wow. Didn't catch that interview. On second thought.............