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    Allen needs to mentally overpower Mahomes

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    19 minutes ago, Shaw66 said:

    I don't know what this means, exactly, but it's exactly correct.  

     

    Mahomes has an approach to the game that is superior to Allen's, and it's something that Allen still needs to develop to be an all-time great.  I'll mention a few things.

     

    When Mahomes comes on the field late, with the game on the line, he has an attitude that we all can feel.   First and foremost, it is a total absence of fear.  Everything about him says he expects to win.  And his look says, "I know we're going to win."   It's more that it says, "I know what I need to do at this moment.  I'm going to do what I need to do."

     

    Allen is getting there.  Earlier in his career, sometimes you could see the fear in his eyes.  Late this season, it wasn't there.  He was in charge, and confident about what he was doing.  Still, he isn't so much in charge that you can feel his presence and his confidence.  Some of it comes from having completely mastered the offense, from understanding every nuance of what needs to be done on every play.  

     

    The importance of that attitude that others can see is that it affects his teammates on the field.  The other players all admire the QB, because the QB knows so much and executes under fire.  When the QB executes like Mahomes and is in charge like Mahomes, the players' attitude goes beyond admiration.  Maybe it's trust.   The other players trust Mahomes to get them into the right play, to execute the right play, and the other players know exactly what he expects of them.  So, Patrick seems to raise the level of play of the whole offense.  

     

    Josh has all the tools.  Josh's punishing physical style already has won him the admiration of his teammates.  They love him for that, and they'll follow him anywhere.  However, he needs to show the mental power, the mastery of the game.  He has to execute with discipline, something that Mahomes is great at.   Patrick just never seems to make the wrong throw.   His judgment is excellent.   Josh is still growing into that.  

     

    I know others in this thread have said, "Josh is great and he's not the reason the Bills haven't won," and I get that idea.   However, the supremely good quarterbacks raise the level of all the players around them.   We're seeing Mahomes, and we saw Brady.  Peyton had it, too.   I don't think Rodgers had it, and I think Allen currently is like Rodgers.  Rodgers has amazing talent, and sometimes his amazing talent wins games for his team.  But Rodgers didn't have his team behind him in the same way that Mahomes and Brady do/did.  Rodgers demands that his teammates follow him; Mahomes brings his teammates along with him. 

     

    Allen's teammates love him and all that, but when they're on the field with him, they don't execute for him the way the Chiefs execute.  It's as though they're waiting for Allen to do it, whereas Mahomes gets his teammates to help him do it.  

     

    Obviously, there's no data to support any of this, but it feels real to me.  One of my strongest reactions to the Super Bowl was that I was hoping that Allen was watching Mahomes, because Allen has to do what Mahomes does.  Physically, he doesn't need much of anything, but mentally he needs to have truly mastered the offense, the plays, the strategy, the situation, all of that, AND his has to project an attitude to the players that says, "I've got this; not just physically.  I've got ALL of this."

     

    A lot of words to end with "SOURCE: I pulled this all out of me arse."

    9 minutes ago, 26TrapDraw said:

    Sorry John I Disagree. The Bills will win the superbowl when Josh makes plays when it matters. You know like Patrick Does and his 3 superbowl rings. At the end of the Bills chiefs play Josh made poor decisions. Like it or not it is why he watched Mahomes win a ring from his couch.


    What poor play did he make in the 13 seconds game?  Did he tell them to pick "heads" on the coin toss in OT?

     

    A lot of you folks really need to let go of this belief that Mahomes is otherwordly and some sort of Mental God over Josh.   The only difference in terms of talent and skillset is that one has the greatest offensive coach of our generation calling his plays and his players always make plays for him, they don't drop sure touchdowns in the playoffs, shank kicks to the left, or inexplicably let a team march into field goal position after not squibing a kick in under 10 seconds.

    Rate your hatred (Chiefs vs Patriots)

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    I hated the Pats during their run, but it was more out of pure jealousy because of how shoddy and poorly run the Bills were in comparison.  The entirety of the AFC East was a joke and essentially, every season started with a bye for the Pats.

     

    With the Chiefs, I hate how they are the ONE team standing between us and the Super Bowl.  We FINALLY have a great team again but we're just not great enough...it's infuriating 

    Chiefs are just better than the Bills

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    57 minutes ago, pigpen65 said:

    Chiefs play mistake free in big games. The Bills don't. 

     

    False.  The Chiefs make mistakes, it's just that teams don't make them pay for them AND they're resilient enough to overcome them.

     

    Case in point, right at the start of the second half, Mahomes throws a terrible pick on their side of the 50. The Chiefs D stands stout while the Niners do nothing and then just punt the ball back.  Another 3 and out gives the Niners great field position, and they do nothing again.  Next possession, the Chiefs score and they keep scoring.

     

     

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    Chiefs are just better than the Bills

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    47 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:

    Kansas City and specifically Patrick Mahomes has a mental edge over the Bills. He has it on Lamar Jackson too.

     

    The Bengals seem to not be affected due to their brashness. 

     

    That's one thing that really worries me about the current Bills...have they accepted that losing to the Chiefs are an inevitability now?  Seems like they "we just can't get it done" narrrative is going to stick to them.


    Compare that to the Bengals.  They are brash and fear no one.  They don't have the same talent as the Bills and Chiefs but they love punching teams in the mouth and laughing at them.  And they don't give a rat's arse about "respecting what the other team has done".

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    Chiefs are just better than the Bills

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    This reminds me of being a Winnipeg Jets fan in the 80s.  They were clearly one of the best teams in the NHL, lead by a generational talent in Dale Hawerchuk (y'all know Ducky)...it's just that they continually got bounced in the first and second round of the playoffs by this stupid team from Edmonton who happened to have some dweeb on it named Gretzky.

     

    The 80s Oilers are considered one of the greatest teams/dynasties of all time.  Those 80s Jets?  Just a footnote.

     

    I really, really hope that Josh Allen's Bills don't end up as a footnote

     

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    Is Mahomes at Brady Levels?

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    7 minutes ago, BBFL said:


    They said the same thing about the Pats after their SB loss to the Giants and all the way up to the 2013 season when they couldn’t get past the AFCC… they then tore it up again and won 3 more SBs, could have been 4 of not for Big D Nick and the Philly Special. 
     

    They won the SB after looking absolutely pedestrian at times this season with some Sub-Par Mahomes play in the Playoffs… 

    Not to mention the worst collection of receivers Mahomes has ever had.  Now they’ll find a way to get even better on the offensive side of the football…lucky us. 

    Is Mahomes at Brady Levels?

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    9 minutes ago, zow2 said:

    I don't ever recall the Bills or local sports talk guys mentioning Patrick Mahomes as a potential Buffalo Bills pick,..  For that reason I never pay attention to the people that says the Bills failed by trading the pick.  He was never getting drafted here.  I don't think the Bills were selecting a high QB at all in that draft.  The real losers were Chicago taking Trubisky #2 overall.   KC was smart,,,  they saw something no one else did and traded up ahead of the Saints to grab him.

     

    I think this is what bothers me the most about any Mahomes discourse.  The revisionist history that the Bills goofed by not taking him and trading the pick.  Those of us around this board would all agree that maybe a handful of people liked Mahomes as the Bills pick in that spot.  Majority of us didn't think at all that he was on the Bills radar.

     

    Also, does it really matter since they drafted Allen anyways?  We're not 2 time Super Bowl champions because Mahomes has been light years better than Allen, they have the rings because Reid is light years ahead of McDermott.

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    Hot Mic Baker Mayfield returning to Bucs

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    8 minutes ago, Gugny said:


    Not being a smartass here, but how did Cleveland treat him like crap?  
     

    Was it the coaching situation?  Because I feel like they provided him with some talent on the field. 

     

    They knew he had a significant injury to his throwing arm and instead of shutting him down, let him gut it out leading to him having a very sub-par season.  Knowing that, they let him take all the blame for the team's performance and rarely stood up for the guy.  And to thank him for putting the team ahead of his own health, they dumped him unceremoniously for the Gummybear Bandit - Portrait of a @SS Grabber and made Mr. Massage the highest paid QB in the league.

     

    Prior to that, he had a different OC every season and had no consistency on the coaching side of things.

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    Josh Allen not in Pro Bowl because of Pebble Beach tee time, Minshew going as alternate

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    57 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    No it won't.  They are and have spent so much money into CTE research and the redesigns or helmets and other equipment.

    Flag football would be a $50 billion dollar loss and the owners aren't going to sign off on that.

     

    I'm not sure how these are connected.  

     

     

    Don't you see?!?  The Lizard People are currently convincing Elon Musk to use his earnings from the sales of Teslas to purchase the NFL (rename it the "XFL") and remove all physicality from the game!

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    Mahomes dad arrested for DWI

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    1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

    Key words there are "appears to be".

     

    Not for nothing, but his family is trash. The whole lot of em. Very rare for trash to raise treasure. Right now Mahomes Jr. has about $500 Million reasons to walk the line. I'm sure he has a top of the line public relations team. 

     

    I'll say this...all of you wanting to say "well, Pat Jr. is different, he seems more level-headed than the rest of his lunatic family", really haven't been paying attention to his "mask-off" behaviour this season.

     

    Look back at how Mahomes has handled adversity this season...

     

    - Showing up his receivers.  Sure they dropped passes and may have ran wrong routes, but he would make sure everyone KNEW it was their fault not his.

    - His petulant whining at the end of the Bills game during the regular season.

     

    Compare that to Josh and how he humbly accepts blame for losses and was there waiting on Bass to talk to him after the div loss. 

     

    Pat Jr. is a product of the garbage tree that grew him.

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    Lions fans mad at Dan Campbell. Bills fans mad at Sean McDermott. Would you trade McD for Campbell

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    8 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:

    Campbell deserves to take it badly. His in game decisions were the major cause of their loss. I have no sympathy for him. 

     

    Was it his in-game decision for Reynolds to not only drop the 4th and 2 ball but also the 3rd and 8 ball that both landed right in his hands?
     

    Was it his in-game decision for Jamyrr to fumble the ball?

     

    He coached a great game and never deviated from how he played 4th down all season.  His players let him and Goff down immensely.

    Det @ SF Game Thread (Please keep the Bills stuff out of this thread)

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    5 minutes ago, sleeby said:

    Travis kelce is 34 and had a mostly poor regular season.  Anyone have an opinion on if the odds of his retiring this winter any better if he gets a third SB ring?  Quit while ahead like?


    Hard to say, the Chiefs have all the making of a dynasty and he might want to stick around to see if there are a few more shots at a few more rings. 
     

    But if he marries Taylor, then all bets are off. 

    Bills to interview Thad Lewis for OC

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    53 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

     

    This same bad, tired argument every hiring season.

     

    It is absolutely valuable to get interviewing experience and network-building opportunities.

     

    I've literally been through this a number of times myself. Interviewing for spots I didn't really have a shot at, but turned into a great opportunity to get on the radar of executives and surprise/impress them.

     

    When you approach it positively and graciously, it's a great experience and one of the best ways to build your career.

     

    This is what people don't understand.  Even if Thad doesn't get the job, he has an opportunity to make an impression.  And if it's a really good one, the NFL networking could help him down the road.  "Hey you interviewed Thad, what did you think?"  "Man, he blew us away, we just wanted to keep consistent with our offense and stuck with Joe". "Cool, we're thinking of hiring him, thanks for the feedback".

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