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Sig1Hunter

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  1. The hospitals in my area take blood at intake. Ill advise Im in the process of getting a search warrant and they will have a tox and bac report ready for me when it comes though. Its never been an issue in court and it keeps me from running into any issues at the hospital.

    That's awesome. Unfortunately, most nurses here are extremely hesitant to assist because they don't want to go to court. That's all most care about. Very frustrating.

  2. Low expectations...... Carolina was a lousy game and I saw the second half of the Denver game and it was ok, far from exciting.....

     

    Add the 14-13 Tennessee game and that may have been one of the worst games on TV I've ever seen.....

     

    Anyone else remember the 6-3 Cleveland game? I'm sure some fans will explain how good that one was.....

     

    18 years since 1999 and expectations are that low.

    Just curious, but why do you start a thread asking for people's opinions and then poo poo on the opinions that don't match up with yours?

  3. Cops don't need to do that stuff. It's their playground and they can do as they please. They are in a rush, alcohol in somebody's system may be metabolizing away! Be thankful. They serve you first. Your safety is first! Oh wait.

    I know you are mocking, but the metabolization of alcohol within the body can be considered as an exigent circumstance that would allow blood to be drawn without a warrant. Generally speaking, States have an implied consent law in place that allows for law enforcement to draw blood from drivers suspected of being under the influence without a warrant in fatal or serious bodily injury wrecks. The Missouri v. McNeely case recently complicated this somewhat and requires law enforcement to get a warrant for blood draws. ..except under certain exigencies. Again, time and metabolization of alcohol / dissipation of evidence are exigencies to be considered.

     

    The interesting thing about this case, is I haven't heard anything about probable cause for the blood draw - either under implied consent, or a warrant. I'm not exactly familiar with Utah laws on the subject, and am just speaking on general terms (dui laws are pretty standard across all states, since the Feds will withhold money from states that don't adopt their NHTSA suggestions). Its possible that Utah attempts to draw on all serious bodily injury or fatal wrecks. In Florida, we need consent, a warrant, or exigent circumstances.

     

    BTW, the safety of the drunk in the hospital is not my concern. They are in a hospital for Cripes sake. My concern is making sure that I get accurate evidence that will lead to an accurate investigation, and if necessary lead to a prosecution to hold them responsible for maiming or killing an innocent person while driving impaired. God forbid you are ever on the wrong side of a drunk driver, I'm sure you would want law enforcement to do everything legally possible to get justice for your loved one.

  4. i thought it was a much better first half than second half for the offense. outside of the matthews 44 yard pass the offense was bad second half. got some work to do. i actually think the jets secondary might be better than the panthers.

    I think some of the way the offense looked in the second half had a bit to do with just trying to sit on the game and take the air out of the ball

  5. Lots of unamerican pieces of **** in this thread. I served my country so NO govt agent would violate your rights. Cops are violating everyone's rights left and right, black and white. If you defend any of these actions you better be moving to Russia where the state can do with you as they please. This is !@#$ing America, and the govt is killing and harassing its own citizens. Grow the !@#$ up you bunch of idiots!

    Just curious, what rights were violated? The man wasnt arrested. He was temporarily detained pursuant to an easily articulated reasonable suspicion. Once that suspicion was disspelled, he was released without any charges. This is how the system works.

  6. I have a friend in Lakeland (just outside of Tampa.) Typical drama queen posting on every social media possible. This thing is 3 days out of FL. Asking the entire state to evacuate is irresponsible and moreover dangerous.

     

    I'm in Virginia Beach and currently have the same chance of getting a direct Cat 2 hit as Miami has of getting a Cat 3+.

    Your friend must be new to inland central Florida. Those of us in the center of the state will be ok. Wind damage here and there, but no issue with storm surge.

  7. It was a cop he was drawing blood from. Got in accident with trucker. They claim there was no chance of wrongdoing on part of the person he was drawing from... Just covering the bases.

     

    He thought he had "implied consent." Gee, a cop getting the laws wrong that he should be enforcing. Ah... This is just an outlier, no need to hit the law books, especially stuff like the motor vehicle code, they know those messes of laws as clear as the back of their hand.

     

    Implied consent=pissing contest=guy whose enforcement playground one is in and had the gun and cuffs=arrest.

     

    You don't want to get into pissing contest with the Gov't bully who enforces for the Gov't. You will lose in short term.

     

    Is that the lesson we should all submit to? OR, should we teach LEOs the actual law. I know there are ton of laws on books, it's very hard to know them all, but you don't make BS up as you go... Especially in a situation like this. Especially when there is a hospital supervisor on the phone telling you to stop.

     

    But, but... He was only protecting his Blue Brother by getting the blood! So, it's okay!

     

    "The nurse, Alex Wubbels, has not been charged for defending the patient, who was identified as a police officer from Rigby, Idaho.

    Salt Lake City police have begun an internal investigation into the incident, and the city's mayor has issued an apology on behalf of the officer."

    Can you explain why you think he "was trying to protect his blue brother by getting blood"? Your post makes little sense to me, and I'm not exactly sure that you know what the implied consent laws are, either.

     

    In this particular case, I have no idea what happened. Anyone not directly involved, and not having an understanding of the fine and complicated intricacies of a states implied consent law, are just spewing nonsense.

     

    I have had personal experience with a nurse refusing to draw blood for me on a drunk suspect who had just crashed and killed a young man. I had a legit case for arresting that nurse for obstructing justice, but I handled it through "political" channels instead to avoid this exact poopstorm. In the end, I got what I needed. ..it just took a couple of extra hours (meanwhile, precious evidence of impairment was metabolizing away). The nurse hid behind HIPPA. Even when I pointed out in HIPPA and Florida Statute where it specifically authorized him to do his job in this case, and draw blood for me, he refused. Incredibly, incredibly frustrating.

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