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  1. 11 hours ago, CajunBillsBacker said:

    1 1/2 hours away from Nashville! GPS is set to take me straight to Hattie B’s to see what the fuss is about. Can’t check into the hotel until 4pm so I’ll have a little time to kill.


    Worth the wait. Went there this evening - waited a good hour - go in and grab some beers - come back to the line outside - makes the line fly.

     

    PS: Where are Sabres fans watching the game Saturday night in Nashville?

  2. 1 minute ago, jrober38 said:

    Toronto adds more people per year than Niagara Falls, ON has in its existing population. The city desperately needs massive infrastructure projects to commence, particularly with a new subway line, and all the key government players from the feds, to the province to the city are trying to figure out how to spend about $10 billion on that project. 

     

    All the more reason to improve public transportation.

  3. 2 hours ago, jrober38 said:

     

    This is well intentioned but Ontario is dead broke. They're not giving any money to support a sports franchise in a different country. 

     

    The economics behind dumping piles of money into a sport that plays 10 games a year has never made any sense. 

     

    Toronto is an international city that draws tourists from all over the world. Connecting it to WNY, and a market that probably doesn't send many people to visit and installing services that will cost significant cost in upkeep and wages for the people running the transit systems seems like a proposition that will lose a ton of money for the province. 

     

    Buffalo needs to figure out its stadium on its own. Figure out how to build a 65,000 seat stadium right downtown with a roof that can be used 12 months a year, and then figure out how to get 20 events in their each year. Anything more than that isn't happening. 

     

    I can't really speak for oldmanfan but I think he was referring to the "development of rapid transit systems connecting downtown Buffalo (including the Southtowns), Toronto, and Niagara Falls."

     

    Our regions need to improve the transportation between TO and BUFNIAG... there is incredible investment already ongoing in Niagara Falls Canada ---> Ontario will not ignore that and knows the lifeline for that city in Toronto... no reason we need Ontario to spend a dime in Buffalo Niagara - but on the Canadian side?  Why not?

     

  4. 15 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

     

     

    It hasnt been cyclical here, which has been the problem.  It has been pretty much 20 years of not being relevant/competitive, and not hosting a playoff game in 22 years.

     

    Other than 2 hot starts that everyone deep-down knew were fluky, the last 6 games of 2004 where they played the bottom 5 teams in the NFL consecutively, and a late season push where they kind of stole a last wildcard spot by virtue of another team's miracle play, there has been nothing.  

     

    Give us one season where the Bills have a 7-2 start that turns into a 11-5 season, a Division title and a home playoff game (or even a bye), leading into another and tickets would be near impossible to come by without paying well above face value.  The relevancy would sustain them throughout a few off years.  Much like the Sabres' runs of 05-07.  Struggling and cheap ticket sales become the hottest ticket in town.  Tickets undervalued, large waiting list, and it sustained them while they increased prices steadily.

     

    WIN

    WIN

    WIN

     

    Winning solves everything... and yes, Canadians will come to games for a quality product.

  5. 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

    Now that you have owners committed to Buffalo for the long term, it would be the time to think bold strategies.  Here is what I'd be presenting to governments on both sides of the border:

     

    I would ask for NYS and Ontario to pony up money not just for a stadium, but for design and development of rapid transit systems connecting downtown Buffalo (including the Southtowns), Toronto, and Niagara Falls.   The Niagara Frontier region could be turned into one huge tourist mecca, both in warmer and colder months. 

     

    Let's say you have a long weekend in September and you could get around to each of these areas within 30 minutes by rapid rail.  You come in on a Friday, maybe take the rail up to the Falls and experience that.  Stay the night there, then rapid rail to spend Saturday in Toronto, take in a show, do some shopping, see the Metro Zoo or Science Center, Yonge Street, and such.  Maybe go to Niagara on the Lake (my daughter is a performer, and she tells me that's a highly sought gig).   Get on the rapid rail and come to downtown Buffalo for a concert that night and get dinner or wings.  Sunday you're at the Bills game and rapid transit to the airport and out.

     

    Now let's say it's February.  Pretty similar, but maybe you rail down to the Southtowns for skiing or snow mobiling or such.  Go to a Sabres game instead of the Bills.  Maybe take in the Albright-Know, or check out some of the famous architecture in Buffalo.

     

    The one thing I'd do different than putting a stadium in downtown would be to gut a lot of Niagara Falls downtown and put the stadium there, with overlooks of the Falls.  But I alos get focusing every thing downtown.

     

    Do this right, and the entire region could become a real destination and bring loads of cash to the area as a whole. 

     

     

     

     

     

    Like your thinking - big time.  This is where the Pegula's need to flex their muscle and influence both here in the states and Ontario (if they have any)...

     

     

  6. 1 hour ago, May Day 10 said:

    Its larger, but we still lack the white collar/fortune 500 corporate backing and suite/amenity purchasing power.  Relying on corporations from Toronto to spend big on a Buffalo team an hour away (much more with GTA and bameday traffic/border) is fantasy.

     

    A low-frills stadium focused on football game watching is what is desired.  There is certainly going to be comfort features installed.... but the level of things we see in Atlanta, Minnesota, Dallas, or SF would be a monstrous waste of money and space.  

     

    Agreed... yet at the end of the day - the current stadium will not last forever and will need to be replaced.... and when it does get replaced - moving it closer to the urban core and the Canadian border makes all too much sense.

     

    ps: no one is calling for Jerry World... and Levi Field is nothing special

     

  7. 10 hours ago, jrober38 said:

     

    Great point.

     

    Greater Minneapolis = 3.9 million residents.

     

    Greater Buffalo = 1.1 million residents.

     

    Buffalo has got to be one of the smallest markets in the NFL. 

     

    True - Buffalo is SMALL if we only consider the population in the US but let's not forget the huge and growing population in Southern Ontario.  If we could include the population south of Hamilton - the Buffalo metro is considerably MUCH larger and more competitive.

     

     

  8. 3 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

      I agree with your logic in large part but infrastructure will be key in this and however awkward some of it is in OP at least it is there.  The downtown contingent overlooks that by many estimates it will take over 100M to do the upgrades to make a stadium practical and usable there.  Further, these same people moan "the state will have to pick up the cost of eminent domain, new roads, utilities, parking, etc. and in my mind that is wishful thinking and no more than that.  Up off I-90 near Clarence would provide a "clean sheet" if you will for the associated costs and have fewer lawyers to move aside or be bought off.  You are right in that long term the Bills will have to court big money from outside Erie County which would include Ontario and those patrons might be more interested in a quick in and out versus an entertainment district that can be accessed by foot.

     

    Yes, infrastructure will need to be updated and enhanced but let's not forget the population of the City of Buffalo was 580,000 at one time.  The City is now 261,000.   The infrastructure is there.

     

  9. 4 minutes ago, RochesterRob said:

      The most likely outcome if a renovation to NEF does not happen.

     

    Why spend money in OP when our market is NORTH of the border? This stadium will likely be built closer to Buffalo Niagara so that they can tap the almighty Canadian dollar.  It's our only chance of long term survival.

     

    They sure as hell will not be building in OP to maintain tailgating.

  10. Somewhat stadium related:  New sites proposed to replace Buffalo's 'obsolete' convention center

     

    Option 1: Expand the Buffalo Niagara Convention Center between Franklin Street and Delaware Avenue. This option envisions renovating the existing convention center, expanding it into what is now the rear part of the Statler building across the street and taking over the entire block north of the Statler. Sky bridges would connect the parcels. The preliminary cost estimate: $350 million to $429 million.

     

    Option 2: Build one large and contiguous convention center at the HSBC site between Washington Street and Michigan Avenue. This option calls for constructing a convention center from scratch near Canalside on land currently used as paved parking by HSBC and The Buffalo News near KeyBank Center. The preliminary cost estimate: $329 million to $368 million.

     

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    Highlights of the study were shared with Howard Zemsky, commissioner of Empire State Development, the state's economic development arm. Also briefed were Mayor Byron Brown, Bills and Sabres owners Terry and Kim Pegula and key members of the state delegation in Albany.

     

    Curious timing - wonder if we will start to see more attention to this post election.  If option 2 comes about - will we see a multi-use stadium/convention center emerge? 

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